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The Founding Fathers Were Anti-War, but Pro-ZOT!
Tommullen.net ^ | 6/12/2011 | Tom Mullen

Posted on 06/14/2011 3:32:13 PM PDT by Tom Mullen

The 2012 presidential election cycle is underway. With the Democratic candidate a foregone conclusion, there is not much uncertainty about where the Democratic Party is going. For better or worse, Democrats will likely continue to “dance with who brung them,” meaning Barack Obama and his brand of 21st century liberalism.

Not so on the Republican side. After historic defeats and victories in the past two elections, respectively, the Republican Party has yet to define itself for the future. It must come to grips with the fact that its miraculous comeback in 2010, after crushing defeats in the presidential and congressional elections of 2008, was due in large part to the Tea Party. However, with that victory came a large group of new Republican lawmakers, many of whom were not ready to fall in line with the Republican leadership. The most striking example, of course, is Rand Paul, who has constantly challenged mainstream Republican positions that do not jibe with his libertarian-leaning constitutional conservativsm.

Critics dismiss the Tea Party as simply a Republican Party publicity campaign rather than a grassroots movement that truly seeks change in Washington. However, it is impossible to ignore the fact that the Tea Party did indeed challenge the Republican establishment and defeated many establishment Republicans in primary elections – which means they obviously cared about far more than simply defeating Democrats. So, if not simply a front group for the Republican mainstream, what does the Tea Party stand for?

(Excerpt) Read more at tommullen.net ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; foundingfathers; isolationism; jefferson; military; paulestinians; paultards; rontards; smellofnapalm; victorkilo; war; zotmeharder; zotmenow; zotmeplease; zuluoscartango
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1 posted on 06/14/2011 3:32:17 PM PDT by Tom Mullen
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To: Tom Mullen

If you are going to get the average Freeper, who war-wise is neocon-ciliatory, then you are at least going to have to excerpt one part of your essay that references your essay’s title.


2 posted on 06/14/2011 3:35:49 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Tom Mullen
IBTZ!!
3 posted on 06/14/2011 3:35:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("We didn't lose Vietnam. We quit Vietnam." ~Gen. Al Haig)
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To: Tom Mullen
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Go! Go ! ZOT-ZILLA!!!


4 posted on 06/14/2011 3:38:38 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Tom Mullen

I hear the high pitched whistle of an incoming Viking Kitty.


5 posted on 06/14/2011 3:40:48 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: Tom Mullen
They were most certainly not anti-war. They started a war rather than exist as subjects. They started a war rather than be subject to having their sailors taken on the high seas by England. They started a war rather than pay tribute or suffer piracy.

They were against a standing army. Big difference.

IBTZ.

6 posted on 06/14/2011 3:41:24 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Tom Mullen

I’m looking at this guys post history, very few of anything except libertarian articles in his own blog.


7 posted on 06/14/2011 3:42:28 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: Tom Mullen

You’ve posted 13 articles, all from your blog, and only three replies. Why do you excerpt? Are you in danger of suing yourself for copyright infringement?


8 posted on 06/14/2011 3:44:06 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Tom Mullen
I don't see anything about founding fathers. I never read anything about founding fathers writing about being anti war. 14 of one family of my ancestors fought the British in the war of Independence. I see no truth in this writer form my experience or his peculiar ramblings. Drug testing might help.
9 posted on 06/14/2011 3:44:15 PM PDT by mountainlion (A nation that forgets it's past has no future. WinstonChirchill)
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To: Tom Mullen; humblegunner

I believe our own ‘humblegunner’ is the “blog pimp” monitor.

Of which you appear to be.


10 posted on 06/14/2011 3:46:52 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Tom Mullen
I'm anti-war. War is hell and costs many innocent lives and a lot of money. In fact, I've never heard any conservative say, “Yeah, war! I love war! War rocks!” I don't think our founders where shouting that either. However, there are times when war is necessary to protect even more innocent lives and protect and preserve liberty. That is what our founders did. Unfortunately, they had to go to war to do this because King George would not negotiate with the colonists.
11 posted on 06/14/2011 3:46:58 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: airborne

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7gFlSGXt_k


12 posted on 06/14/2011 3:47:28 PM PDT by mountainlion (A nation that forgets it's past has no future. WinstonChirchill)
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To: Tom Mullen
The Founding Fathers went to war with Britain to gain independence.

The biggest mistake they made, however, was the screwing of Benedict Arnold - after Arnold (disobeying dumb orders from a political general) won the decisive battle at Lexington.

13 posted on 06/14/2011 3:49:10 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: airborne
Dude!!!!!

No imitations.


14 posted on 06/14/2011 3:50:21 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Tom Mullen; airborne

Hi, Tom!

You seem to have made a huge mistake.

Pity, that.


15 posted on 06/14/2011 3:52:21 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Tom Mullen; Jim Robinson
Post 552 - Jim Robinson

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I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.

If a blogger can’t or refuses do that, and if he constantly complains or fights with our participants over it, then I’d just as soon he doesn’t post here. It’s not my job to make his content or his presentation or cooperation acceptable to our readers. That’s his job. And if he cannot do it or refuses to do it and continues posting brief excerpts only and obviously attempting to draw away our participants while loudly complaining about it, then I have no sympathy for his complaints and the more apt I am to ban his account and blog.

Furthermore, I’m not big on “rules.” You won’t see me posting rules for bloggers. The rules for bloggers on FR are the same as the rules for everyone else. If you are a good conservative activist and are willing to work with US on OUR goals and causes and not against US, then you’re welcome to post to FR. But unless we say otherwise your blog material should be posted to our bloggers forum and it would be best if you do not excerpt your own material and if you would actually join in on the discussion here on FR. We’re not really that interested in driving OUR traffic to YOUR blog. But if our readers see that you post useful information then they might start reading your site and that’s fine by me.

16 posted on 06/14/2011 3:55:57 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Tom Mullen

Not anti war in the modern sense but it’s true that they did all they could to avoid a war and only fought when there were no more corners to back into.

After all, they were citizens confronted with the most powerful military machine the world had ever seen to that point.

Its a little hard for a real historian to deny divine providence after studying America’s early history.


17 posted on 06/14/2011 3:56:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: DJ MacWoW

Ditto, time for MAX ZOT.


18 posted on 06/14/2011 3:58:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Tom Mullen; 50mm; Lady Jag; Old Sarge; darkwing104; Darksheare; TheOldLady; Allegra; ...

19 posted on 06/14/2011 6:00:44 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: Arrowhead1952; TheOldLady

Fried Paultard seems to be quite popular on the menu lately... :)


20 posted on 06/14/2011 6:03:47 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Godzilla

Protect the brand! NO imitations! Hi, Godzilla! You go guy!


21 posted on 06/14/2011 6:12:57 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT Lightning ping list.)
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To: Allegra

The quality of trolls has gone down too. They used to post non confrontational replies on obscure threads and then drop a turd. Not any more.


22 posted on 06/14/2011 6:16:04 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: Tom Mullen; Arrowhead1952; Allegra; Godzilla; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; ...
H/T Arrowhead1952, Allegra, Godzilla

Tom! You seem to have made a huge mistake and now you're sitting in the alley behind FR with a huge butt hurt



Never misinterpret the founding fathers

23 posted on 06/14/2011 6:28:38 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT Lightning ping list.)
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To: TheOldLady

I think there must be a full moon coming...the Zots are hard and heavy right now! :)


24 posted on 06/14/2011 6:45:16 PM PDT by LUV W (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: Tom Mullen; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
Put down the bong, man! Tom Mullen gets the ZOT.

To be added or removed from the VK/ZOT list FReepmail Darkwing104.

25 posted on 06/14/2011 6:45:33 PM PDT by 50mm (Action speaks louder than words, but not nearly as often.)
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To: Tom Mullen

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

26 posted on 06/14/2011 7:11:52 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104; 50mm; TheOldLady

I wish we could get some more clever trolls. Lately, they’ve been lame ;-)


27 posted on 06/14/2011 7:36:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Nothing WORSE than a boring troll! LOL!


28 posted on 06/14/2011 7:45:26 PM PDT by LUV W (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: 50mm
Bell AH-Z1
29 posted on 06/14/2011 7:49:04 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: darkwing104

IATZ!


30 posted on 06/14/2011 8:18:43 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Tom Mullen

I think you had a decent thought and then your article took a hard turn toward travesty and idiocy on display.


31 posted on 06/14/2011 8:48:10 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: 50mm; Tom Mullen; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006

Was this guy drinking when he wrote this and then posted before passing out?

Frickin unfortunate intellect and a crap analogy.


32 posted on 06/14/2011 8:51:45 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Tom Mullen
libertarian-leaning constitutional conservativsm.

What type of hybrid garbage is that? Ru Paul is a straight up Murry Rothbard style Libertarian. He is not a Conservative. You are a blog pimping dunce with a limited sense of history.

33 posted on 06/14/2011 8:58:52 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: LUV W

Over the years, we have has some really creative ones........I’m talkin series looney tunes! ;-)


34 posted on 06/14/2011 9:20:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Well, I’ve seen a few of them, but of course I haven’t followed them as closely as you guys have. Lots of laughs at their expense! :)


35 posted on 06/14/2011 9:28:33 PM PDT by LUV W (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: LUV W

One of the better ones ;-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2701081/posts


36 posted on 06/14/2011 9:35:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

LOL! TOO funny! Thanks for sharing!


37 posted on 06/14/2011 9:47:23 PM PDT by LUV W (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: LUV W

You is welcome ;-)


38 posted on 06/14/2011 10:01:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Tom Mullen; 50mm; TheOldLady; Arrowhead1952
(Excerpt) Hear at tommullen.net ...

So long, blog pimp.

39 posted on 06/14/2011 10:10:36 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: Pan_Yan
Why do you excerpt? Are you in danger of suing yourself for copyright infringement?
LOL!
40 posted on 06/15/2011 4:23:48 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: TheOldLady

Another great graphic!


41 posted on 06/15/2011 4:26:20 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: LUV W

People are champing at the bit in anticipation of the 2012 election. It’s going to be a rough 17 months.

And the full moon doesn’t help either.


42 posted on 06/15/2011 5:46:03 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT Lightning ping list.)
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To: samtheman

Thank you. I spend minutes poring over Bing images to find this stuff, LOL!


43 posted on 06/15/2011 5:47:45 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT Lightning ping list.)
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To: OldNavyVet
"The biggest mistake they made, however, was the screwing of Benedict Arnold - after Arnold (disobeying dumb orders from a political general) won the decisive battle at Lexington."

I agree with everything you say ... except I think that you meant "Saratoga".

44 posted on 06/15/2011 5:55:53 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Square Dancing - Drill and Ceremony Set To Music)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Over the years, we have has some really creative ones........I’m talkin series looney tunes! ;-)

This wasn't all that creative, just another blog pimp wanting us to hit his blog. Big mistake was to start with a bad premise.

That flamingos/anteater link was funny. Thanks!

45 posted on 06/15/2011 6:03:40 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Indeed. They used to stay and play for a while before going completely over the ZOT edge, but now they’re at the outer limits right out of the box.

I really like it when they opus to Jim Thompson and he accepts.

Sigh... I guess the clever ones are all gone, and the left is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Poor us. LOL!


46 posted on 06/15/2011 6:16:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT Lightning ping list.)
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To: TheOldLady; bcsco

” Indeed. They used to stay and play for a while before going completely over the ZOT edge “

Yep. They start out sounding half way reasonable, then....all of a sudden...they drop the anvil on our big toe ;-)


47 posted on 06/15/2011 6:29:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; TheOldLady

More like the anvil is dropped on their own big toe. Then again, many post just to get the zot. It’s like some rite of passage in DUmmieLand. They can then go back with “Hey, look what I did” (which amounts to nothing,really).

But there’s always the ones who take on Jim as TheOldLady points out. There were a couple a few weeks ago that were way over the top. These are probably my favorites as well.


48 posted on 06/15/2011 6:38:47 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: stephenjohnbanker

To Ron Paul Libertarians, who want World Terrorists to multiply and prosper without restraint, because they mistakenly think that if we leave them alone, they will leave us alone...........Here is a bulletin for you.......PISS OFF!

49 posted on 06/15/2011 6:48:20 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: 50mm

I love that picture. Good thing it’s on your home page.


50 posted on 06/15/2011 7:37:35 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT Lightning ping list.)
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