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When is the last time a GOP "establishment" guy ever lost the nomination?

Posted on 06/15/2011 7:35:03 AM PDT by no gnu taxes

I can't think of it. I mean McCain wasn't even the front runner last election for most of the race, and at this time in 2007, he was in serious trouble. But he was definitely the establishment guy and he ended up winning.

Is there any way we don't end up with a nominee Romney? I can only say that it's better than nominee McCain.


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1 posted on 06/15/2011 7:35:06 AM PDT by no gnu taxes
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To: no gnu taxes

My guess is Ronald Reagan..


2 posted on 06/15/2011 7:36:22 AM PDT by Moby Grape (Formerly Impeach the Boy...name change necessary after the Marxist won)
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To: no gnu taxes

The last time the GOP establishment candidate lost the nomination was 1980. The country club Republicans are still holding that grudge.


3 posted on 06/15/2011 7:37:16 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: no gnu taxes

Ronald Reagan

Sarah Palin


4 posted on 06/15/2011 7:38:17 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Dahoser

It’s a bit dicey calling Bush the younger the establishment candidate when he beat McCain (another establishment candidate).


5 posted on 06/15/2011 7:40:19 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: no gnu taxes

It’s going to come down to a battle for the R party between traditional/moderate/RINO faction and the Tea Party conservative faction. If we don’t win, I fully expect to see a 3rd party split, which will be the end of the R party.

McCain was so far down he had to carry his own suitcase to the NH debates, yet magically he became the Chosen One. RINOS are always about the “issue of the day”, i.e. they got behind McCain because they though his military record could win on Terrorism.

Never mind conservative values, a “reach-across-the-aisle” history or compromise, weakness on social issues, etc. To hell with that, I’m voting for a true blue Conservative this time around, no matter who the RNC nominates.


6 posted on 06/15/2011 7:40:42 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: no gnu taxes

“Is there any way we don’t end up with a nominee Romney?”

Live boy/dead girl.

“I can only say that it’s better than nominee McCain.”

Nominally but yes. I despise John McCain with every cell in my body. Could never vote for him even if the 2nd coming of Ronald Reagan was the running mate; Oh wait, she was/s.

I don’t hate Mitt Romney, I just don’t trust him. Would he be better for the nation than 4 years of Obama with no re-election to worry about? Maybe, but our nation needs better than that. It is no longer acceptable to simply be “better than the other guy,” we need a conservative and I am not sure that Romney fills the bill.


7 posted on 06/15/2011 7:41:12 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: no gnu taxes

Gerald Ford


8 posted on 06/15/2011 7:41:12 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Durus

Not really dicey at all, with two in the running the establishment couldn’t lose.


9 posted on 06/15/2011 7:42:15 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: no gnu taxes

The Establishment has screwed it up too bad this time. They won’t be able to foist their usual Dole/McCain type off on us.


10 posted on 06/15/2011 7:42:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: no gnu taxes
When is the last time a GOP "establishment" guy ever lost the nomination?

I'd say 1980 (Reagan over Bush). Additionally, when was the last time a GOP POTUS primary was held after the Tea Party Nation Movement was formed?

This, combined with Ma0bama in office, is the Game Changer. The environment is target rich. It took a Carter to get a Reagan. 2012=1980. Game on!

11 posted on 06/15/2011 7:43:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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The problem is that the American Republican population votes and not Free Republic voters only. If Free Republic voters were the only ones who could vote, we would have a perfect World. We really need to work that out some way. We are the top 10 percent conservatives probably in the World.


12 posted on 06/15/2011 7:43:42 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: no gnu taxes

I’d have to say Reagan as well. Dole was the low point in my lifetime, I think.


13 posted on 06/15/2011 7:47:31 AM PDT by No!
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To: no gnu taxes

Reagan.


14 posted on 06/15/2011 7:48:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: no gnu taxes
Is there any way we don't end up with a nominee Romney? I can only say that it's better than nominee McCain.

In 2008, the tri-headed monster was called "Rudy McRomney" for a reason.

15 posted on 06/15/2011 7:49:22 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama are not rivals, they're running mates." - Rep. Thaddeus McCotter)
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To: No!

Dole could have been a good President. It was a shame her husband ran instead.


16 posted on 06/15/2011 7:50:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Grunthor
we need a conservative I am not sure that Romney fills the bill.

I am VERY VERY VERY sure, he does NOT fit the bill.
17 posted on 06/15/2011 7:51:46 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: Grunthor

That’s a good point. There is usually more than one establishment candidate.


18 posted on 06/15/2011 7:51:46 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: no gnu taxes

Romeny =establishment
Bachman = establishment but for vp
cain= zero chance of winning
Pawlenty = nobody cares
Huntsman = VERY establishment
ronpaul = comic relief and clueless
anyone else is just dead in the water.


19 posted on 06/15/2011 7:52:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: no gnu taxes

No it isn’t.


20 posted on 06/15/2011 7:55:59 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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