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The Non-Quitter: Sarah Palin

Posted on 06/15/2011 11:40:40 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yeah, sparky but you are the one quoting Hollywood to defend/explain Palin’s quitting, remember?


51 posted on 06/15/2011 1:57:52 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: ansel12

Now you are really starting to blow some serious smoke.

You are now claiming she beats Eisenhower and Goldwater? You people truly are out there in LA LA land!


52 posted on 06/15/2011 2:07:21 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Servant of the Cross

Nice try but no cigar. You even had to cross out the word quit.

Denial is NOT a river in Egypt. Hmmm Egypt, Cleopatra, hmmm Hey Sarah.....


53 posted on 06/15/2011 2:07:44 PM PDT by FreedomGuru
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To: wtc911

The birth of a new term today, mark it on your calendar for future celebrations.

The Non-Quitter

or would it be

The Non-Resigner

:-)


54 posted on 06/15/2011 2:12:23 PM PDT by FreedomGuru
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To: FreedomGuru

They would call it “PDS”;

Palin Denial Syndrome. (What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.)


55 posted on 06/15/2011 2:17:49 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: wtc911

Do you think that truth can be found in fiction?

Do you believe the idea that a person can become more powerful as a symbol or as an influence is a real concept?

Knowing the culture you are working is allows people to have a way of communicating more effectively than being aloof from the culture.

People know Star Wars. The concept that Obi-Wan won by sacrificing himself is played out through not only the history of literature, but in actual history itself.

Like Jeanne d’Arc or De Molay, their deaths inspired their followers to carry on in their spirit.

Likewise, if Palin had not willingly stepped aside in Alaska, she would not be wielding the power she is today.

But sorry to interfere in your “real life”.


56 posted on 06/15/2011 2:19:12 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Show me some numbers, did Goldwater or Eisenhower lead the right to such a historical sweep, and not just a Republican sweep, but a far more conservative sweep than the GOP intended?

I don’t think so, in fact Goldwater didn’t lead us to victory over anything, not the Senate, nor the Congress, not to mention the state legislatures, and the Governorships, we did take the Senate during Eisenhower’s Presidential victory, but it didn’t equal what Palin did in 2010.


57 posted on 06/15/2011 2:19:23 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: ansel12
I'm not the one making the original claim. You should produce the data that backs up your claim, not the other way around.

By the way Goldwater lead the Republican party back from the huge defeat in which he endorsed Ronald Reagan and was very influential in helping get Reagan elected.

58 posted on 06/15/2011 2:33:16 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: FreedomGuru
Yea, yea, yea. I chose the WSJ and John Fund intentionally. Bigtime GOP establishment and no friend of Sarah or "unconvential" politicians. And yet if you read the article, he defends Sarah Palin's decision even though they used a poor word in the title. As posted upthread, the dictionary does define "quit" and "resign" as synonyms. However, in use they could not be more different which is why we have innumerable FR threads to argue about it.

Lib hacks who have brought complaints said they do not consider their efforts frivolous ...

"I must defend against these baseless ethics accusations out of my own pocket as the use of public monies to do so could itself violate state law," Palin wrote.

"Obviously we cannot afford to personally pay these bills -- and really no future governor should feel the sense of financial vulnerability at the hands of those with a political vendetta bent on personal destruction," Palin wrote. "Some have suggested a legal fund to pay these bills. We'll have to pursue that." [it was determined that this would have set off a new round of bogus 'ethics' complaints, which IMHO left Sarah Palin with no acceptable choice but to resign. Blame nutty Alaskan FOIA rules.]

Oh, I see you’re from Michigan. That explains everything.

59 posted on 06/15/2011 2:33:37 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Sorry but Sarah quit. She is not Obi Won Kenobi or Joan d'Arc. She is a woman who folded under the pressure and walked out on the people who elected her.

Trying to create a myth of sacrifice will not fly with the 65-70 million American voters she would need to get elected.

60 posted on 06/15/2011 2:39:29 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: FreedomGuru

I’ll settle for Non-Nominee.


61 posted on 06/15/2011 2:41:12 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

I guess we will see what happens in the election, won’t we?


62 posted on 06/15/2011 2:42:28 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

If I need to tell you about the 2010 election results, then you don’t need to be on this thread.

I missed the part about Goldwater saving conservatism in 1980 though, I don’t recall that, although I’m glad he was not against Reagan like he was in 1976.


63 posted on 06/15/2011 2:45:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: wtc911

No one is stupid enough to think that Palin resigned because she can’t handle pressure, especially from her position as a popular sitting Governor.

Arguments have to be grounded in some semblance of reality or they are just too silly to even trot out.


64 posted on 06/15/2011 2:50:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: ansel12
Your biggest mistake was claiming that the victory in 2010 was all because of Palin. Just trying to make people buy that steaming pile is crazy talk in and of itself. Even you know that claim is a complete fairy tale.

If you try to insist that it is not, then you truly are one of those who get off hitching rides on nearby comets.

65 posted on 06/15/2011 2:52:42 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: wtc911
“She is a woman who folded under the pressure and walked out on the people who elected her.” You poor of spirit thing, having to read and post at Freerepublic must be so revolting for you.

What Sarah has endured from small minds like you since she made the highly principled decision to put the people of Alaska above her reputation—which lost souls like you just love to trash, like all dead-souls unable to see what a principled act is—well, what she has endured and continues to rise above proves you're not only wrong, but perniciously obsessed with hate eating your innards.

Your bile spewing bitterness will consume you, young’n. It must really frost your little brain that she refused to play the ‘game’ as your ilk wanted it aligned. She defeated your ilk and continues to brush you aside. It must be so embittering to you folks!

66 posted on 06/15/2011 2:54:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; RedMDer; WackySam; Anitius Severinus Boethius; mommyq; EveningStar; ...

After reading this thread and the fight over
quitting vs. resigning, it occurs to me the
terms can be defined by their results.

If quitting means giving up, Sarah Palin did
NOT give up. Instead, she has risen like a
phoenix out of the ashes; more powerful and
influential than ever imagined.

If that is quitting, more of us should be
quitters.


67 posted on 06/15/2011 2:58:18 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
After reading this thread and the fight over quitting vs. resigning, it occurs to me the terms can be defined by their results. If quitting means giving up, Sarah Palin did NOT give up. Instead, she has risen like a phoenix out of the ashes; more powerful and influential than ever imagined. If that is quitting, more of us should be quitters.

Newspeak.

68 posted on 06/15/2011 3:03:32 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Jo Nuvark; onyx; Bigtigermike; Windflier
If that is quitting, more of us should be quitters.

Now, that's the fact Jack!

It would seem that the same PDSers are getting quite bold in their recent attacks. What's up with that?!

69 posted on 06/15/2011 3:06:56 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Yes some earlier posters were saying something similar, you can’t take a new job, or role, until you leave the old one.

Especially when the old one is thousands of miles away from where you need to be.


70 posted on 06/15/2011 3:07:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: Melas

Yes, she quit her job. She explained in fairly detailed terms why she did so, for anyone who actually cared about the facts of the matter.

You either accept the reason for the resignation, or you don’t. If you don’t, that means that you are saying that Palin should have remained in a position where she would be responsible for an additional, unbudgeted outlay of a (reported) $2 million of state money to be spent on the processing of ethics defenses for herself and her administration, (not to mention the significant personal legal expenses required by the Alaska ethics laws from herself and members of her administration who were also targeted) because of the blizzard of specious and frivolous ethics complaints being filed by Democratic Party operatives.

People who claim to be both conservative and critical of Palin’s resignation need to reconcile their position with any reasonable definition of “fiscal conservative.” This position strikes me as being analogous (on a much different level, of course) to holding that Douglas MacArthur should have stayed in command of his forces in the Philippines until being captured by the Japanese and forced to participate in the Bataan Death March.

Criticizing Palin’s resignation simply shows that she cares more than you do about how public money is spent, I’m afraid. Spin it however you want. But that’s where you wind up.

Now, a more nuanced and meaningful criticism of Palin might involve the Alaska ethics laws themselves which were being abused by her political opponents—laws which I believe Palin was in favor of enacting when she was running for Governor.

It’s a situation of being hoist by one’s own petard, in a sense.

Palin’s biggest mistake as Alaska Governor, from my point of view, was exactly the overreach of her ethics reform. In that, she vastly underestimated the unscrupulousness and sheer malice of her political opponents.

I suspect she has corrected that problem in her worldview by now.

If you want to attack Palin’s record, make sure you know what the record is that you’re attacking. In my opinion, she’s more vulnerable on a substantive basis on her (arguably failed) ethics reforms themselves than on her resignation.

Your mileage may vary.


71 posted on 06/15/2011 3:11:35 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--GAME ON!!!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
It would seem that the same PDSers are getting quite bold in their recent attacks. What's up with that?!

Given that the chances of Palin ever enjoying universal support, perhaps you should just get used to the idea that not everyone is going to be a fan?

72 posted on 06/15/2011 3:12:58 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I never claimed that so you are writing the fairy tale, it is also you trying to deny Palin’s role in successfully leading conservatism to extraordinary victories since August 2008, that is striking and bizarre.

Palin has been in that leadership role since August 2008, and is still there at this very minute, as we are having this discussion while you try to end the conservative roll we have been on since her emergence on the national scene.


73 posted on 06/15/2011 3:14:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Bachmann/Rollins/Romney=destruction for Bachmann, but it sure helps Romney. WHY?)
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To: MHGinTN
Your bile spewing bitterness will consume you, young’n. It must really frost your little brain that she refused to play the ‘game’ as your ilk wanted it aligned. She defeated your ilk and continues to brush you aside. It must be so embittering to you folks!

Wow, that just reeks of elitism. What, with your heroine brushing aside the small people with their little brains and all that. And here I thought her total appeal was her lack of elitism that appealed to her non-elitist cheering section. Your post just shows how wrong I was.

74 posted on 06/15/2011 3:16:58 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: Melas
... perhaps you should just get used to the idea that not everyone is going to be a fan?

I agree. Not everyone should be a fan. It's a FReerepublic. However, is wishing that posts about Sarah Palin on FR don't sound exactly like something on DU asking too much?

75 posted on 06/15/2011 3:21:13 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Oh, I see you’re from Michigan. That explains everything.

Now that was mature. Are there any other states who's citizens aren't worth recognizing that we should be aware of before we continue this discussion?

76 posted on 06/15/2011 3:21:46 PM PDT by Melas (Sent via Galaxy Tab)
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To: Melas
Nice try at mischaracterization. Very alinskyesque of you! The ‘ilk’ I referred to brought frivolous suit after frivolous suit trying to destroy Sarah, her family, and bring the governorship of Alaska to a litigious halt. You part of that ilk, so you must now jump in to mischaracterize what I wrote to someone else? You get tired of the birfer threads so now you play games on the Sarah Palin threads?
77 posted on 06/15/2011 3:27:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: WackySam
Yep she quit the Governors job. And thank God she did. Alaska is better off, her family is better off, and the USA is better off.

She had a powerful impact on the election, and the national dialog. She helped get a number of conservative and tea party candidates elected. No way she could have done as much had she stayed as Governor of Alaska.

So yeh, she quit the job, but not the fight. It may be more important and beneficial if she continues the fight and keeps holding the politicians feet to the fire rather than get bogged down in the system by running again.

She will make a great impact no matter what she decides.

78 posted on 06/15/2011 3:29:43 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Melas
Oh, so sorry. I didn't realize you were the FR maturity police.

Given that the chances of your definition of maturity ever enjoying universal support, perhaps you should just get used to the idea that not everyone is going to care what you think?


Maturity: Not everything it's cracked up to be.

79 posted on 06/15/2011 3:30:15 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I’m quitting - voting for the candidate the GOP or media picks.

“Not retreating but reloading”. Guess they don’t like her new amno - it hits the target every time.


80 posted on 06/15/2011 3:32:45 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: EveningStar; Servant of the Cross; WackySam; CondoleezzaProtege; AFreeBird
LINK-APRIL 16,2011


"We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.


So now he's shouting, all aboard the bullet train to bankruptcy."


Well, Mr. President, we’re not going to get used to it. Not now. Not ever.

You ignored us in 2010. But you cannot ignore us in 2012.

Mr. President, you and your cohorts threw all the hatred and all the violence you could at these good folks in Madison, Wisconsin. But you lost here.

And Madison, you defended the 2010 electoral mandate. You are heroes, you are patriots, and when the history of this Tea Party Movement is written, what you accomplished here will not be forgotten.

Your historic stand brought down the curtain on the last election. And the 2012 election begins here.

We will take the courage and the integrity that you showed all of America. We will take it and we will win back our country!

God has shed His grace on thee, America. We will not squander what we have.

We will fight for America! And it starts here in Madison, Wisconsin!

It starts here! It starts now! What better place than the state that hosts the Super Bowl champs to call out the liberal left and let them know:

Mr. President, game on!


81 posted on 06/15/2011 3:33:11 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: All

Oh. Sorry, everyone. I seem to have stumbled into the Mindless Unsupported Character Assassination Thread by mistake.

Please disregard my previous post, as it was not fully in keeping with the required tone and tenor of the thread.

Again, sorry, everyone.


82 posted on 06/15/2011 3:34:21 PM PDT by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--GAME ON!!!)
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To: Jo Nuvark; kbennkc

Yes they’re just bitter she’s “quitting” herself right into the Presidency. :)


83 posted on 06/15/2011 3:40:08 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege (Palin 2012)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

84 posted on 06/15/2011 3:40:21 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged". - Reagan)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

85 posted on 06/15/2011 3:40:25 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged". - Reagan)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Much like some general said during WW 2, retreat hell, I’m just advancing from a different direction....”O)


86 posted on 06/15/2011 3:40:31 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: EveningStar

Just wondering how someone can read a beautiful letter like that and come up with a comment such as you just made ????


87 posted on 06/15/2011 3:41:04 PM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/anybody (removed Cain because of Bush bashing.))
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To: wtc911
She is a woman who folded under the pressure and walked out on the people who elected her.

This isn't a place where get to drop your propaganda bombs - no matter how you enjoy being an obedient slave to the media.

Now, little liberal, eater/spreader of propaganda, let's see how much pressure you can bear.
88 posted on 06/15/2011 3:43:01 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: bigjoesaddle

LoL great pic! But I just think David vs. Goliath.

We can take em on! :)

Because at the end of the day, their (the media, the establishment, Hollywood) Goliath covering is just a front—a mask. Inside their “way too big for them” costumes are a bunch of sissies and wimps too afraid to stand for something good and true.


89 posted on 06/15/2011 3:46:12 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege (Palin 2012)
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To: EveningStar
That is a Denali sized mound of 200 proof bullshit if there ever was one

I feel the same about your comment.

GO SARAH - you are great at making the liberals expose themselves! They see your name and run to it!! Woo Hoo!
90 posted on 06/15/2011 3:47:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
If quitting means giving up, Sarah Palin did NOT give up.
Instead, she has risen like a phoenix out of the ashes;
more powerful and influential than ever imagined.
If that is quitting, more of us should be quitters.

BTTT !
Run Sarah!

91 posted on 06/15/2011 3:47:08 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; ansel12
You people

Another one, gotcha! Enjoying the sunlight?
92 posted on 06/15/2011 3:49:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Yeah, three years of Obama has been a ‘real blessing’....
It just damaged our country!


93 posted on 06/15/2011 3:49:54 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch

That’s what happens when the GOP and media picks a RINO candidate!’

GO SARAH!! The ONLY PROVEN FIGHTER!


94 posted on 06/15/2011 3:52:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’ll donate and vote for her if she gets the repugnican nomination. I am not like the Palin nihilistic extortionists


95 posted on 06/15/2011 3:57:32 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: potlatch

Without Obama, we would have had Hillary. With Hillary, we would not have had Palin. Without Palin, we would not have the Tea Party movement, but an endless vanity fair of RINOs perpetuating the routine of mediocrity and hypocrisy.

The Obama years have been a great time of re-awakening if you ask me.


96 posted on 06/15/2011 3:58:42 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege (Palin 2012)
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To: presently no screen name

Hope you read the loonie toon comment I was replying to!


97 posted on 06/15/2011 3:58:52 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; wtc911
Likewise, if Palin had not willingly stepped aside in Alaska, she would not be wielding the power she is today

That's what these little water servants of the media posting here don't want - POWERFUL SARAH. They like to be fed and controlled by the gov't.

WTC = WeTheClueless - am I close or right on target?
98 posted on 06/15/2011 4:01:45 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I fought strongly against Hillary, but in the end I wish she had been their nominee because, although a socialist, I believe she would not have been as destructive to the country. We’ll never know now.


99 posted on 06/15/2011 4:04:08 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

GAME ON!

David vs. Goliath!

The one with the stones wins.

GO ‘UNCONVENTIONAL’ SARAH - The PROVEN FIGHTER!


100 posted on 06/15/2011 4:06:02 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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