Skip to comments.Gun ownership, carrying a gun linked to heavy alcohol use
Posted on 06/20/2011 9:11:22 AM PDT by drypowder
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The UC Davis study Says it all - I need to read no further. Sometimes the smell of BS just reeks from the page!Kind of like a story on "global warming" that begins with:
A new IPCC study reveals...
...and there’s a high correlation between liberalism and illicit drug use. Let’s ban liberals.
This “study” (so-called) is an unusually large pile of crap, even by Academic Gun-Grabbing Peace-Creep standards. The use of outdated and cherry-picked statistics, combined with an intentional conflation of inherently risky behaviors (e.g. - drunk driving) and demonstrably safe behavior (legal concealed carry) would be bad enough, but the unchecked assumption of causality behind it renders it all a great big steaming load.
15 years ago, how many States had legal concealed carry? The study doesnt differentiate between those who illegally concealed carry and those who do so legally. Those who engage in criminal behavior are more likely to drink? Wow, who knew?Excellent points.
Also, aren't there boatloads of studies that show that where there is legal concealed carry there are WAY FEWER carjackings?
Well, y'all be careful about which one you pull out and stick into your mouth then, y'heah?
that’s funny...most RATIONAL people would clearly conclude NOT carrying is probably riskier..but who knew? Then again I’m not a perfesser....
So from now on, I simply say "molon labe". Come get 'em, bitches. If you want mine, you'd damned sure better bring yours...and pack a lunch, too.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Nice. I'll be over this weekend. Looks like my type of place. Only thing missing is the "shooting car" out back.
“about 25 percent of gunshot-wound victims treated at UC Davis Medical Center tested positive for alcohol.”
So you are much more likely to be shot if you’re sober. Good to know.(snicker)
“What an idiotic statement - assuming that carry a concealed weapon is a risky behavior.”
Hopefully, the author was referencing this study finding:
“But alcohol abuse was most common among firearm owners who participated in gun-related behaviors that carry a risk of violence, which also included having a loaded, unlocked firearm in the home and driving or riding in a vehicle with a loaded firearm.”
Let’s concede that alcohol abuse impairs judgment (witness: drinking and driving deaths). This study is the equivalent of finding that drivers who drink alcohol are more likely to be involved in automobile accidents. Given the disproportionate share of carnage caused by drunk drivers, this wouldn’t be at all surprising. But the solution to this problem isn’t to ban either alcohol use or cars: it is to impose heavy penalties on those who drive their cars recklessly—a standard that inevitably will snare more drunk drivers than average drivers.
Likewise with guns. No one can defend the carnage caused by guns. And to the degree it arises from irresponsible behavior, it should be punished just as severely as drunk driving deaths. But the solution isn’t to inhibit the freedom of everyone else to drink or own guns.
If this solution is acceptable for cars (drunk driving causes 10,8000 deaths a year
http://www.cdc.gov/MotorVehicleSafety/Impaired_Driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html while gun-related homicides and accidents account for about 13,500 http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html), there’s no reason (except for ideological bias) it can’t work for guns.
Garen Wintemute is an anti-gun activist of the first order and anything he has to say needs to be vetted thoroughly. If that pony-tailed freak said that water was wet I’d be sure to verify the fact.
Is this like the study that once proved that marijuana use made White women want to have sex with Black Jazz musicians?
The way gun owners and dealers get treated by the statist JBT's, can you blame them? Rein in the ATF, and the problem would be solved. Refreshing honesty from a lying liberal university, as much as admitting the policies are the cause of the problem.
When you're a liberal. If you're a liberal and own a gun, it's risky because you're an idiot and will probably shoot your wife or dog. If you're a liberal and OTHER people own guns, it's risky cause you might end up watering the tree of liberty.
Well Malone, you just boiled down the alcohol/gun link to the love of fine, polished wood. Are you up for a grant?
Tip: Before sticking either in your mouth, double check to make sure you grabbed the right one!
Wow, what a complete load of cr@p ping.
This study must be true. Shortly after I gave up alcohol, I lost all my guns in the lake.
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