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Sarah Palin - America’s Deborah
The Ignorant Fishermen ^ | 6/21/11 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 06/21/2011 11:55:10 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

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To: moose-matson

Yes, she has been Lincoln, Washington, Reagan, Thatcher, (even herd one compare her to Churchill) compared to Jesus and most every saint you can mention, Joan of Arc, etc,.

But tell me this, can anyone recall any President elected to office who “Trademarked” their name prior to campaigning for office, or for that matter, served as President as such?

No, it couldn’t be all about money now, could it?


51 posted on 06/21/2011 1:49:26 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Berlin_Freeper; EternalVigilance
Just wandering by, read your post and am enjoying the humiliation given this third party poseur.

He was pwned.

Unfortunately he will spew on rather than go away in shame as he should.

52 posted on 06/21/2011 1:51:36 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: ansel12

Yeah. The Republican Party most definitely rejected Alan Keyes, and his message. To the extent of blackballing him and then not counting our votes here in Iowa.

And the Constitution Party was too much in the Ron Paul Republican/Libertarian/paleo-conservative/isolationist/anti-Israel vein.

So, big deal.


53 posted on 06/21/2011 1:53:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Wow! Sounds like somebody has some issues.


54 posted on 06/21/2011 1:53:29 PM PDT by ngat
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To: RitaOK

Palin and Deborah are both strong gutsy G*d fearing women, which is probably why he made the comparison. It’s not like he was comparing her to G*d, or anything like that.


55 posted on 06/21/2011 1:53:41 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Obama - Osama - the only difference is "BS".)
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To: Lakeshark
He was pwned.

What are you, twelve?

56 posted on 06/21/2011 1:54:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

To me the trademark thing says she’s not running. It also says M*O*N*E*Y.


57 posted on 06/21/2011 1:54:43 PM PDT by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Well, it seem that all too many men in the Republican Party are basically a bunch of milquetoast get-along-to-get-along pushovers. Not all, of course, but quite a few. And it seems as if many of the conservatives who are willing to speak out and not give in to the threats and smears of the Left are women.


58 posted on 06/21/2011 1:56:46 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Obama - Osama - the only difference is "BS".)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sorry, I am not an Alan Keys cult member.


59 posted on 06/21/2011 1:57:33 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Genoa

Is it that they are in need of being led by a woman, or do they just need to hear that is’s OK to be a conservative man, from a real woman?


60 posted on 06/21/2011 1:58:05 PM PDT by ngat
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Many of the men on the “right” currently seeking or in politics have LITTLE in common with the men who fought WWII. Not one of the current crop today is willing to put up with the abuse WHILE STILL CHARGING ahead as Palin does. All stand in the shadows and make the occasional comment but she puts herself out there. Jan Brewer and Michele Bachmann do the same. Perhaps if today’s Republican (supposed) conservative male in the limelight would show the same fortitude as those men who fought in WWII these women might not need to.

And none of those women are making these comments. Those of us watching this play out are. Even my son who’s surrounded by brave men every single day of his life says the same thing. I’m not real thrilled that this is the way the world is right now either. Where are the men? Romney? Huntsman? Pawlenty? Newt? Sorry, that dog don’t hunt. Thank God the women do.

Cindie


61 posted on 06/21/2011 1:58:09 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Neither am I.


62 posted on 06/21/2011 1:58:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I was thinking she’s America’s Esther, but Deborah’s good, too.


63 posted on 06/21/2011 2:01:03 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: EternalVigilance
From my prior post:

Unfortunately he will spew on rather than go away in shame as he should.

Prophetic. Even if I was twelve.

64 posted on 06/21/2011 2:01:40 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

America has many Godly, courageous men leading their families and fighting for our country. Unfortunately there are very few of them stepping up to the political leadership plate. I have not seen anyone since Reagan willing to keep fighting and leading even after being savaged by Liberals and their presstitutes. Sarah has had all hell flung at her family and herself personally. Until I see some men willing to withstand the same, I can believe that Sarah has been raised up for such a time as this.


65 posted on 06/21/2011 2:01:54 PM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; moose-matson

Dudes, chill out. This is just one guy’s opinion and comparisons to historical figures (even biblical ones) are made all the time. Don’t be so uptight. People probably compare her to Reagan, Thatcher and other conservative figures because of real or perceived similarities. The same with figures like Deborah, for example. They were both G*d fearing women, for example.


66 posted on 06/21/2011 2:03:18 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Obama - Osama - the only difference is "BS".)
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To: EternalVigilance

Only a con man would go out and run in the Presidential primaries of three different parties in one year, especially a man that has never won any election, anywhere, ever.


67 posted on 06/21/2011 2:04:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: EternalVigilance; The Ignorant Fisherman
"What you seem to fail to realize is that, scripturally, this comparison is actually an indictment of the Republican Party."

I don't think he, nor many of us fail to realize this. They should be "indicted".....as were the Whigs.

68 posted on 06/21/2011 2:04:40 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Trademarking the Palin name was just a smart move to prevent the horde of atheistic Psycho-Lawyers who have come after that family in unprecedented fashion ever since they sensed the threat the Palin family is to their perks.


69 posted on 06/21/2011 2:07:04 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Jacob Kell

Dude....you chill...we’re laughing at it (at least I am).


70 posted on 06/21/2011 2:08:07 PM PDT by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: gardencatz
WHILE STILL CHARGING ahead as Palin does

Charging ahead on what? That should be question conservatives should be asking themselves.

Pro-choice for states, like Gerald Ford?

Supporting John McCain's reelection?

Supporting John McCain's position on immigration?

Supporting the Law of the Sea Treaty?

Pushing judicial supremacy?

Touting "feminism"?

Calling unionists her "brothers and sisters"?

Refusing to offer any opposition to the U.S. Dept. of Education and the education establishment?

Refusing to spell out any substantial portion of the federal behemoth she would like to eliminate, much less any part of it that she considers to be unconstitutional?

As in the days of Deborah, these are perilous times. Cotton candy conservatism, mere populist rhetoric, will NOT save this republic.

None of her positions that I listed above are directions I want to charge, thank you very much. And I find it sad that her followers can be led to do so along with her.

Watch. As this thread progresses...or perhaps I should say digresses...you will see her supporters defending all of that. Which is an amazing thing to see on America's premiere conservative forum.

71 posted on 06/21/2011 2:08:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: NoGrayZone

You betcha.


72 posted on 06/21/2011 2:09:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: ansel12

You don’t know what you’re talking about, as usual.


73 posted on 06/21/2011 2:09:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: gardencatz
Don't let your arrogance separate you from the real world. This current crop of men you claim is so cowardly or worthless, are the men who are still fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, I go back to Viet Nam and there were just as many brave heroes then as there are now.

Do you think you can insult and humiliate an entire Demographic into supporting your candidate? If you believe you will win elections by doing so, go ahead. Men that belong to my category will only smile while you make a complete ass out of yourself. And word travels fast among us. It's an unwritten code that we shared in our foxholes.

But go ahead anyway, exclude us from your exclusive little club. See how far that gets you.

74 posted on 06/21/2011 2:12:08 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: EternalVigilance

No, I am correct, the man was desperately looking for a stage, that is how he makes his living.

Three political parties in a single year, WOW!


75 posted on 06/21/2011 2:12:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: ngat

You must be currently looking into a mirror.


76 posted on 06/21/2011 2:12:59 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: wolfman23601
My wolf brother...

I compared her to our founders...who were totally “biblified”... to the max... Of course all were not believers but the majority were. Just read their writings. also ... read Sarah's books. We didn’t say she got a “vision” but God rules in the affairs of man (Daniel 5:21).. just ask Belshazzar...

77 posted on 06/21/2011 2:15:29 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Migraine

Exactly! She was ready to roll....


78 posted on 06/21/2011 2:16:57 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: ansel12

If you could ever take off your Republican blinders perhaps you could learn something from the man.


79 posted on 06/21/2011 2:19:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: EternalVigilance

The man is a con man, that, while never actually winning elections, constantly runs in them, decade after decade, as a way to make his living.


80 posted on 06/21/2011 2:22:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

It seems this is the time and place where the line is to be drawn.

We have quite a few “Reveres”, and you seem to be one of them. I love reading your writings.

God Bless you for your “Revereness”. I know, not a word, just made it up, lol!


81 posted on 06/21/2011 2:24:54 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: MayflowerMadam
I was thinking she’s America’s Esther, but Deborah’s good, too.

Agree completely.See my long time tagline.

82 posted on 06/21/2011 2:27:14 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

FYI, the current GOP male politicians are definitely “cowardly”. They have been neutered by political correctness. They are a total embarrassment. Until the men grow a new spine, I’m afraid the Republican women will have to do the heavy lifting. It’s a sad state of affairs.


83 posted on 06/21/2011 2:30:58 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

PWNED!!!!


84 posted on 06/21/2011 2:33:20 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Obviously comprehension eludes you as well. You brought up the men in WWII. I agreed they were brave. At NO point did I say anything about Marines/soldiers of today NOT being brave. As a matter of fact I SPECIFICALLY made reference to my son (a Marine, as per my tagline) being surrounded by heroes every single day...one can extrapolate that I obviously am well aware of the caliber of men serving today.

My point was the CURRENT crop of male politicians, especially those I SPECIFICALLY named who are running for office, in no way compare to the truly brave men I do know. I also explained what I thought about the women who are currently in the political/public arena that are taking heat and still going forward. Just so your brain doesn’t get confused, I’m not comparing these women to our brave men and women in uniform, I’m saying they are exhibiting a bravery the men we now have in the forefront of political life aren’t showing.

Cindie


85 posted on 06/21/2011 2:41:18 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: upsdriver
In Politics, we're all equal. Keep gender out of this. The country is going to hell and all you can squabble about is how weak the men are. So you are saying that Paul Ryan is spineless? DeMint? Did you ever think that they may be obeying their district's wishes? Or that the problem is not with the men, it is with American politics and voter demographics?
86 posted on 06/21/2011 2:43:07 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

bttt


87 posted on 06/21/2011 2:47:12 PM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

You have to admit, of the two GOP frontrunners, one of them is a goofy wimp man, and the other is an impressive, female, outdoorswoman and hunter.


88 posted on 06/21/2011 2:47:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

89 posted on 06/21/2011 2:48:22 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: MayflowerMadam

When I first saw Sarah, Esther came to mind. I believe Deborah’s good as well, but something about the Book of Esther just screams SARAH!


90 posted on 06/21/2011 2:51:08 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: gardencatz
Now you insult me by degrading my ability to comprehend.

Keep your sexist bias out of this, This is American politics here. Neither gender has a monopoly on ability or courage. Get off this obsession with denigrating men.

91 posted on 06/21/2011 2:52:16 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Palin Denial Syndrome?
92 posted on 06/21/2011 2:53:29 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

93 posted on 06/21/2011 2:55:53 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: ansel12

For once you acrually said something nice about Bachmann.


94 posted on 06/21/2011 2:55:58 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: rintense
And still, what I said four years ago about Alan remains true.

Can you point me to someone who has better or more deeply internalized America's founding principles, or has the ability to communicate those principles more powerfully than Keyes? Really, because I would like to give them their due regard if they're out there.

I note that I did not compare him to some biblical hero. I simply pointed out how a scriptural principle has worked in his life.

Another example of this, albeit in the written form, just came out while this FR exchange was going on. It was Alan Keyes responding to the daily devotional of Gold Star father David Jeffers. Worth the read, and worthy of thinking about:

Dave,

The American people have the choice to turn away from the corrupt political system bent on their moral and physical destruction. They have the choice to seek out and support a candidate from outside the corrupt twin party system. Faith in God means doing what's right and trusting in the Lord for the outcome. It doesn't mean trusting to whited sepulcher lip-service and transparently deceptive evil, while deluding oneself with the forlorn hope that God will make Himself a liar in order to back up our spiritual foolishness.

It saddens me that even solid pro-lifers are tempted to treat the issue of respect for innocent life as if it can be isolated from the larger issue, the one that's at the heart of America's crisis. This larger issue is reflected in the fact that none of the candidates offered by the present corrupt way of doing politics is acting on God's priorities. None of them truthfully represents the primacy of the moral/spiritual issues. They all put mammon in first place. Their fatal flaw therefore goes beyond how they deal with the life issue. It's concerns their unwillingness to act, as America's prevalent Founders did (i.e., the one's who actually prevailed in the deliberations about independence and the Constitution). By declaration and example, these Founders made respect for God's endowment of right and justice the first principle of political action, the never-to-be-forgotten context for all the laws, policies, decisions and actions of the American people. This doesn't mean they never accepted compromise. It means they never accepted a compromised understanding of politics that involved abandoning the truth in principle.

At present America violates the innocent life of nascent humanity because as a nation we have abandoned the priority that must be the basis for all human life-"Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness." By turning away from this priority we abandon truth in principle. This abandonment isn't just about what individual politicians do or say. It's about the understanding of politics on which all of them agree to operate because they accept the priorities and terms of action imposed by the twin-party sham. We cannot hope to restore the integrity of the American republic if we refuse to replace this corruption with a way of doing politics that respects its Founding first principle. The American Founders began by acknowledging God's will as the source and rule for what is right. They did not found the republic exclusively on human calculation, power, wealth and self-worshiping pride.

Instead of party politics based on coalitions of purely selfish interest, we must return to the concept of politics that sees citizen action as a covenant of people of goodwill, that is, people drawn together (convened) by their determination to serve the common good defined by God's endowment for humanity, and all creation.

If we do what in good conscience we are convinced God made us to do, we need never despair of success. Rather, we are called to persevere, however our bleak the worldly wise perceive our hopes to be. "For God knows the way of the righteous." So those who walk in His way may do so calmly trusting in Him for miracles.

Alan Keyes


95 posted on 06/21/2011 2:59:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: EternalVigilance

And here you said you weren’t a Keyes person. Laughable.


96 posted on 06/21/2011 3:02:24 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

No wonder you get so much wrong, anybody that knows their politics knows that Governor Palin is the one that has been running neck and neck with Romney for years, and is the famed hunter and outdoors woman of our time.


97 posted on 06/21/2011 3:05:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: ansel12

You mean like this?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/jun/21/bachmann-surges-primary-lead/


98 posted on 06/21/2011 3:06:48 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: moose-matson

I think the trademark is called protection. Sarah has been co-opted too many times. She is making sure that another liberal can’t trash her name.


99 posted on 06/21/2011 3:07:18 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: MeganC
I can’t wait for Sarah to announce!

What will you do if she announces that she's not going to run?

100 posted on 06/21/2011 3:07:34 PM PDT by EveningStar
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