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BATF Acting Director Melson resisting efforts to step down…Eager to testify
Island Turtle ^ | June 24, 2011 | Corky Boyd

Posted on 06/23/2011 9:43:35 PM PDT by Corky Boyd

The LA Times is reporting this incredible story in this morning’s edition. His resignation was rumored a week ago, last Friday and expected to take place Monday, then Tuesday then in the immediate future. The delay seemed to some to indicate his handlers at Justice might be having trouble convincing him he should fall on his sword to protect Attorney General Holder. Rep. Issa has publicly stated Justice had to know about the Fast and Furious program, since they had to approve the funding for it. .

Here is some of what the LA Times is reporting.

"The acting director of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is strongly resisting pressure to step down because of growing controversy over the agency's surveillance program that allowed U.S. guns to flow unchecked into Mexico, according to several federal sources in Washington."

The story continues with this quote from one of the Times’ sources:

"He is saying he won't go," said one source close to the situation, who asked for anonymity because high-level discussions with Melson remained fluid. "He has told them, 'I'm not going to be the fall guy on this.' "

(Excerpt) Read more at islandturtle.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: batf; holder; melson; obama

1 posted on 06/23/2011 9:43:41 PM PDT by Corky Boyd
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To: Corky Boyd

Make sure he’s under oath when he does it.


2 posted on 06/23/2011 9:44:43 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Corky Boyd

I don’t think it’s gonna be so much a matter of falling as being pushed ;-)


3 posted on 06/23/2011 9:53:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Nachum

Can’t remember who’s ping list this would fit in.


4 posted on 06/23/2011 9:57:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: rockrr

You guys miss the point.

He’s not willing to be the fall guy.

He wants to testify.

He’ll name names of the people over him up the ladder who either came up with the plan or gave the word to expand it.

All good news


5 posted on 06/23/2011 9:58:55 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: little jeremiah

I did ping my list to the same story by another source earlier.

Here is a page I set up for the topic:

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


6 posted on 06/23/2011 10:00:44 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Thanks. I just haven’t had enough FR time lately.

This is getting interseting.


7 posted on 06/23/2011 10:05:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Nachum; LucyT
Can’t remember who’s ping list this would fit in.

Ping. I think this will bear watching.

8 posted on 06/23/2011 10:05:59 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Corky Boyd

Issa needs to give him cover immediately.
This guy is asking for whistleblower protection and deserves the support of all real Americans.
God Bless him.


9 posted on 06/23/2011 10:07:09 PM PDT by brickdds
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To: thecodont; justiceseeker93; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Hotlanta Mike; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; ...
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The story continues with this quote from one of the Times’ sources:

"He is saying he won't go," said one source close to the situation, who asked for anonymity because high-level discussions with Melson remained fluid. "He has told them, 'I'm not going to be the fall guy on this.' "

Where have we heard this before? Didn't Ron Brown make a similar statement not long before his untimely death?

Check out article.

10 posted on 06/23/2011 10:17:51 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: TigerClaws

“He’s not willing to be the fall guy. He wants to testify. He’ll name names of the people over him up the ladder.”

You MUST it for the good of the nation, doncha know. Do you think America needs another Impeachment fiasco under Clinton? You worship the one and Holy MESSIAH like us, doncha?

Oh? You don’t? Would you like to meet in Fort Marcy Park and discuss this??


11 posted on 06/23/2011 10:18:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: LucyT

He needs to stay away from parks and planes.


12 posted on 06/23/2011 10:22:00 PM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: tcrlaf

Ruh Roh...

obamacide?


13 posted on 06/23/2011 10:28:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: Corky Boyd
"....high-level discussions with Melson remained fluid. "He has told them, 'I'm not going to be the fall guy on this.' "

No Sh__ite Melson! I hope you stick to your guns on this. Why anyone with half a brain would be willing to face prosecution or prison or loss of reputation, or whatever, to be a fall guy for Holder or 0dumb0 is beyond belief. But then for many if not most demoRAT socialist commie pigs, the advancement of marxist ideology & agenda & power is the holy grail and usually takes precedence over anything else, family, religion, blood, nationality, ethnic background, race, anything, including even prison terms. I think they will be counting on Holder & 0dumb0 to pardon any fall guys that take the rap on this.

14 posted on 06/23/2011 10:29:38 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: TigerClaws
When I read his bio at the agency website he doesn't look like a standard political appointee. He was an Assistant U.S. Attorney (that's a staff hire) during the Reagan years, an interim U.S. attorney (political appointee) under Bush 41 and Clinton, and in an executive position for the U.S. Attorney's Office under Bush.

Typically a political appointee knows he is supposed to fall on his sword when he gets the call. Even if he doesn't, he is going to have a huge ethical issue since moving contraband across a border is a real no no. He cut Dept. of State out of the loop. I know State can't keep a secret, but it still isn't done.

15 posted on 06/23/2011 10:32:40 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Corky Boyd

The Administration will make him an offer he can’t refuse.


16 posted on 06/23/2011 10:38:23 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: USNBandit

Didn’t I read a NBC news-reporter broke this story as some of the rank and file in the ATF thought the whole gun sales scheme was BS and risked their jobs coming forwarded with information. If the informers hadn’t said anything to this newswomen then government would have prosecuted the very gun store owners that the ATF approached and setup to sell guns to Mexicans along with deaths caused by the same guns.

And as we all know, guns and ammo are illegal in Mexico, the signs say so at the border entrances.


17 posted on 06/23/2011 10:47:51 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: azishot

And stairwells, and windows. And planes and trains. And restaurants.

He needs protection.


19 posted on 06/23/2011 10:50:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Razzz42
That line of thinking wouldn't hold up in court and here is why.

What you have seen on the news is probably surveillance footage of the straw buyers coming out of the store with guns. In addition to that the case would have to be supported with audio from wires either in the store or on the dealer, acting as a confidential informant. Without those wires it is a lot tougher to make the case and if they were going after the gun dealer then they would need a warrant to plant the wire in his store without his consent.

Here is a more plausible line of thinking that is almost as bad. These dealers are in a business where the regulatory agency and the law enforcement agency are the same people. If they come to you and ask you if you will help with an investigation, what are you going to say? If you say no, would you be surprised if somebody started coming buy every week to check your books?

These dealers knew the score and were being coerced into playing.

20 posted on 06/23/2011 10:58:21 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Corky Boyd

DROP THE BOMB THEN b****!


21 posted on 06/23/2011 11:08:54 PM PDT by struggle
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To: Corky Boyd

I’m hoping this guy rats out Holder and Obama, causing a huge scandal that lasts until the next election.


22 posted on 06/23/2011 11:34:00 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Razzz42

Was CBS and she/they led with several expose stories on the fiasco when the other LSM Obamabots wouldn’t touch it.


23 posted on 06/23/2011 11:43:31 PM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: USNBandit
Who says the Feds know how to think? Feds raid gun store tied to Mexican drug cartels Agents say weapons at murder scenes came from Phoenix
24 posted on 06/23/2011 11:53:34 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Sea Parrot

Thanks for that.


25 posted on 06/23/2011 11:54:09 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: TigerClaws

I figure he is going to lie.


26 posted on 06/24/2011 12:04:11 AM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn..." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: donmeaker

bttt


27 posted on 06/24/2011 12:10:50 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

he seems like a professional, perhaps even an honest guy. If he was a political appointee of Obama he would not roll over. Why is he acting? Because no appointee could get through the Senate? Because they wanted someone outside the agency to get this done without their guy being exposed to jail?

I hope he doesn’t lie. It is a monumentally bad and illegal idea, and who ever ordered them to do it should be identified and not allowed to ‘work in this business again’.


28 posted on 06/24/2011 12:41:13 AM PDT by donmeaker ("Get off my lawn..." Clint Eastwood, Green Ford Torino)
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To: donmeaker

100% agree. I hope Issa gets to the bottom of this and whoever is responsible goes to jail.


29 posted on 06/24/2011 12:44:51 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Corky Boyd

Doesn’t he need the DOJ’s permission to testify?

I hope not because that won’t be forthcoming.


30 posted on 06/24/2011 12:50:59 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: Corky Boyd

I hope he lives long enough to testify.

Whistleblowers who do so against Dem politicians tend to have fatal “accidents”.


31 posted on 06/24/2011 12:52:46 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: LucyT

“Where have we heard this before? Didn’t Ron Brown make a similar statement not long before his untimely death?”

I wouldn’t want to be taking any flights. Or drive my car. Or even walk outside my house.

The evil is piling up, but, I fear not enough warm bodies who still believe in the rule of law to prosecute the evil.


32 posted on 06/24/2011 2:26:32 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: USNBandit

The latest I heard the DoS is also implicated. Think about it; Hitlery was one of the biggest voices out there to trumpet the bogus 90% story. Now nobody will touch it.

I think Issa has somebody from DoS on his whistleblower list as well and he is just setting up the ducks in a nice little row before he starts shooting. People are running for the hills right now and this one is going to take in some very big fish.


33 posted on 06/24/2011 3:04:06 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: USNBandit

I am a business colleague of Ken. While I do not know his political leanings, he is a very ethical, and honorable man. Knowing Ken as I do this should get interesting. It should be noted that he was president of the American Academy of Forensic Scientists. He was elected by his peers for his service. He was instrumental in writing and reviewing the ethical documents which control the forensic science community. This should get very interesting indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 06/24/2011 5:11:57 AM PDT by vitaman2 (ethics)
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To: Razzz42
Razzz42: Didn’t I read a NBC news-reporter broke this story as some of the rank and file in the ATF thought the whole gun sales scheme was BS and risked their jobs coming forwarded with information.

Close. Gun bloggers Codrea and Vanderboegh picked it up off the "cleanuptheatf" discussion board and pounded away at it for MONTHS. Finally a reporter at CBS (yes, surprised the tar out of me too) picked the story up and ran with it.

This story has been around a lot longer than MSM has been covering it...
35 posted on 06/24/2011 5:38:50 AM PDT by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: vitaman2

“While I do not know his political leanings, he is a very ethical, and honorable man.”

Well if he’s “ethical, and honorable” then he isn’t a Democrat. ;)


36 posted on 06/24/2011 5:50:42 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Peet

No wonder the government wants to control the internet, damn bloggers. Even FR treats them like second class citizens. MSM are the worst bloggers of all.


37 posted on 06/24/2011 8:35:26 AM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Lurker

Make sure you can verify what he says...


38 posted on 06/24/2011 8:42:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: tcrlaf

The check must have bounced, or Melson checked the golden parachute they offered him and decided it wouldn’t open.


39 posted on 06/24/2011 8:49:13 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Corky Boyd

Memo to Darryl Issa: Get that guy on the stand.


40 posted on 06/24/2011 8:59:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Corky Boyd

The skunks will be very sorry they allowed this guy to move up to the acting position!


41 posted on 06/24/2011 9:40:32 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: brickdds

Issa seems to be terribly slow in legally confronting this mob. He might be putting on a show with the plot line being a Republican blowing a bunch of hot wind a la Republicans’ Clinton investigations.

I am close to placing a bet that no one in the Bammy administration gets touched by their friends in corrpution across the aisle.


42 posted on 06/24/2011 10:36:32 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson; All

” I am close to placing a bet that no one in the Bammy administration gets touched by their friends in corrpution across the aisle. “

Our House & Senate leaders would rather play golf with him.


43 posted on 06/24/2011 2:04:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: airborne

If this was 1996 I’d say he was at risk for “Arkancide”. What would you call it these days? Kenyacide?


44 posted on 06/24/2011 2:09:09 PM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (HTML impaired)
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