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Flash Mob Watchdog
me | 6/29/11 | struggle

Posted on 06/29/2011 8:40:07 AM PDT by struggle

There have been a lot of flashmobs that have resulted in social disorder. I have three questions:

1. What sites, media are begin used to generate them?

2. Are there any watchdog sites and if not, how should these mobs be countered?

3. Is there any way that signs/etc. could be placed ahead of time to warn people from info posted on the net?


TOPICS: Outdoors; Politics; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: flash; mob; watchdog
Anyone know...I think it would be a good service for someone to make money and protect people.
1 posted on 06/29/2011 8:40:16 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle
Just a theory, but "flash mobs" could be the "seed" obama is planting for "civil unrest" in order to declare "martial law" and "cancel the elections".

He hasn't been bashful about making it up as he goes along, so far.

Maybe that's why he doesn't look all that worried about the 2012 election...

/theory
2 posted on 06/29/2011 8:45:47 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: struggle
I'd like to see a flash mob countered with a pair of AA12 automatic assault shotguns with 20 round magazines.

Do that twice and you won't ever see another flash mob.

3 posted on 06/29/2011 8:46:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: struggle

Most of these mobs are not from social networks, but from text msgs, so I think only the NSA has the technology needed to do what you are asking.I doubt they’d use that tech for this problem, and even if they did a real 4th amendment question would arise..I think the best course is back to basic beat cop techniques.Observation, CIs,citizen tips.Your suggestion about an alert system, akin to Amber Alerts is one that could be done once the info is verified.


4 posted on 06/29/2011 8:47:31 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: struggle

Facebook and Twitter would probably be the two biggest sites for these activities.

I don’t know how fast flashmobs can organize themselves, but probably pretty quick since Facebook and twitter send updates to your phone.

I don’t think anybody can stop them, except at the door.


5 posted on 06/29/2011 8:48:50 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: FrankR

I do think these are seeds. I suspect that ACORN is playing a role here, and I think that the Left is pre-positioning for something close to a guerrilla war. On our side, we’re wondering if Sarah Palin will get into the race, or whether that piece of legislation in California is going to pass. Meanwhile, the Left is actively practicing how to take over our cities. Right in front of our nose. But we don’t see it. Once again, we are behind the curve.


6 posted on 06/29/2011 8:49:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, I’ve taught at an all-black school for 3 years and I have never seen any behavior like this. If there was a certain word that they use for this (mobbin, etc.) it would be easy to isolate a site and mole in and watch the alerts.

Just like worldstarhiphop.com gets all the uploaded fight videos, etc., there has to be a key site/facebook group/twitter address/etc.

That kind of assembly is not just an update; there has to be a key site that is bringing this - just like 4chan and anonymous/lulzsec etc.


7 posted on 06/29/2011 8:54:53 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

Why do they keep calling them flash mobs? Flash mobs are the nice little groups that surprise everyone at malls and other public venues with cheerful songs and dances. Another good thing bastardized by the left.


8 posted on 06/29/2011 8:55:42 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: murron
Why do they keep calling them flash mobs?

Because they can't call them black mobs.

9 posted on 06/29/2011 8:59:34 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Once again, we are behind the curve."

The trick will be waiting just around that curve, ready, and well armed. Surprise is a formidable advantage.
10 posted on 06/29/2011 9:00:19 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: struggle
how should these mobs be countered?
Automatic weapons.

11 posted on 06/29/2011 9:07:24 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ClearCase_guy
the Left is actively practicing how to take over our cities
Ah, I think they've owned them for some time now.
If anything, they're practicing to get out into the 'burbs.
12 posted on 06/29/2011 9:10:54 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Last Dakotan
Because they can't call them black mobs.

They could be called "blobs."

The context of the usage would indicate the nature of the reference.

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13 posted on 06/29/2011 9:14:25 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: struggle

In answer to question #3: “Is there any way that signs/etc. could be placed ahead of time to warn people from info posted on the net?”, may I suggest that the Founders already provided an answer.

It may be found in the Second Amendment.

Victims are unarmed sheep vulnerable to tyranny.

Armed citizens are not mere ‘sheeple’.


14 posted on 06/29/2011 9:17:02 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, Kill the EPA!!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Meanwhile, the Left is actively practicing how to take over our cities.”

Firstly, as some gangs discovered out West, taking over a town is not simple when the inhabitants are armed.

Secondly, if the Big Sh*tty takeovers occur, after they are retaken, the population of Democraps (the major population of the Big Sh*tty is Democrapic in most cases) will be very much reduced.

We surround them.


15 posted on 06/29/2011 9:21:46 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, Kill the EPA!!!)
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To: struggle
Anyone know...I think it would be a good service for someone to make money and protect people.

Easy. You get the Federal Govenment to monitor (i.e. read) every single email, tweet, and facebook posting that travels on the internet, as well as every cell phone conversation and text message that travels the airwaves.

Short of that, no there is no way to 'monitor' flash mobs. A flash mob is simply a group of people that know each other ahead of time, and can contact each other through email, twitter, facebook, or some other means common to the group.

For example, I could post here on F.R. that all FReepers in the D.C. area should meet under the Washington Monument at noon tomorrow, and unless your 'service' actively monitored Free Republic, they'd never catch it.

Some of the hoodlum flash mobs are probably arranged through cell phone text messages, so no private company could possibly monitor that activity.

16 posted on 06/29/2011 9:23:51 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

I read about a program called TXTMob. Wonder if thats still being used.


17 posted on 06/29/2011 9:26:33 AM PDT by struggle
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To: murron

The origin was a story by SF author Larry Niven, about a world with cheap teleportation: something interesting would happen somewhere, the news would get out, and people would teleport in to see themselves. . .


18 posted on 06/29/2011 9:27:16 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: struggle
Did he say signs?


19 posted on 06/29/2011 9:34:28 AM PDT by McGruff (Why do they fear her so?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

it would be better to use powerful tear gas...make the animals double over in pain until the cops come....then they can be arrested and tried...


20 posted on 06/29/2011 9:40:34 AM PDT by cherry
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To: xkaydet65

then again, why should law abiding citizens have to be “warned” about flash mobs....we have every right to live peacefully .....flash mobs better start getting the “warning”, not us...


21 posted on 06/29/2011 9:42:57 AM PDT by cherry
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To: struggle

Mostly done with text. Very hard to trace in real time.


22 posted on 06/29/2011 9:44:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

EXACTLY! Punch some holes in as many as you can and it will stop cold in it’s tracks. I say bring it!


23 posted on 06/29/2011 9:47:06 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: struggle
Thanks for asking the question I have had on my mind. The techies so far seem to think monitoring is not feasible. People had better start arming themselves as these black mobs seem to be increasing in number and frequency.

One poster suggested that mass riots could break out near elections giving "The Divine One" an excuse to cancel an pending election.

24 posted on 06/29/2011 9:48:43 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Last Dakotan

The first of these things to get publicity were “cultural events” with theater and choral troupes assembling to stage a dance scene or sing the Hallelujah Chorus. The possibilities of the technique, of course rapidly spread to less savory participants and intentions. Now we have the black gangs in Peoria seeming to be intent o making the city unlivable for non members. This crap is spreading rapidly and may be the thing that finally induces me to get a carry permit. I have avoided that to date because I don’t want my name on the first list the government will use when/if they decide to confiscate.


26 posted on 06/29/2011 10:03:06 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

EXACTLY! Punch some holes in as many as you can and it will stop cold in it’s tracks. I say bring it!


27 posted on 06/29/2011 10:03:49 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: struggle

Greetings struggle:

Today, Glenn Beck was discussing the ‘tweets’ from the group of tolerant liberals who bothered his family in the NYC park last weekend.

The person seated behind Beck tweeted something rude about sitting behind Beck. Someone tweeted back suggesting the person behind Beck’s family should ‘accidentally’ spill something on them. Moments later, his wife had wine spilled upon her back.

Beck was saying this stuff gets posted on line some where, it doesn’t go away.

While I know a lot about technology, there is far more that I don’t know. Hoping this thread eventually answers that question.

Cheers,
OLA


28 posted on 06/29/2011 10:07:15 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: FrankR
I agree that these mobs are being ginned up or 'community organized' for a purpose. My DH agrees that it is to impose martial law, but I wonder if this is a way to shut down the internet and alternative media by claming that they are being brought together by twitter, facebook, etc.

I think we need to sieze their 'serious crisis' before they do and declare it is the result of too many fatherless children caused by paying single women to have babies via welfare. We need to fundamentally transform welfare to remove incentives to have multiple babies without a plan to support them. If we start getting this idea out loudly now, this can be the issue.

29 posted on 06/29/2011 10:15:38 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: oh8eleven
how should these mobs be countered.....?
30 posted on 06/29/2011 10:19:23 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
Woman Seated Near Beck at Movie Claims Innocence…But What Does Twitter Tell Us…(With UPDATES!)
31 posted on 06/29/2011 10:58:06 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: GladesGuru
after they are retaken

Question: "Why bother?" Just keep things from spreading and let 'em eat each other.

32 posted on 06/29/2011 11:00:20 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ClearCase_guy

Saiga 12 Ga. with 20 round clip is very nice too.
Ya notice this kind of crap seems to be coming from states without a Castle doctrine?


33 posted on 06/29/2011 11:36:48 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) NO RINOs)
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To: Last Dakotan; murron

BINGO!!


34 posted on 06/29/2011 11:48:06 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: oh8eleven

>...they’re practicing to get out into the ‘burbs.”<

Very bad move on their part.


35 posted on 06/29/2011 11:56:27 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Yeah, and I found the girl who was sitting next to Beck, her twitter and foursquare accounts in 30 seconds. I just need some beginning to see where this flashmob coordination came from.


36 posted on 06/29/2011 11:58:48 AM PDT by struggle
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To: panaxanax
Very bad move on their part.
We've had Section 8 scumbags move into town over the last 3-4 years. They brought their inner city values and the cops landed on them like a swarm of locusts.
All is not perfect, but their behavior has definitely changed.
37 posted on 06/29/2011 12:06:39 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: struggle

Thinking it centers upon Uncle Sugar giving away free cell phones so the po’ can find jobs. Yeah, they’re pulling off “jobs” with those free cell phones.

Two years ago, FR had reports of this stuff in Philly.


38 posted on 06/29/2011 12:20:55 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: cherry
Put a sign in the front window: NOTICE: SOME SHOPPERS AND STAFF IN THIS STORE ARE ARMED. GUESS WHICH ONES.

Then, if they still come in, lock the doors behind them and call the cops. (for whatever that is worth...)

39 posted on 06/29/2011 2:11:43 PM PDT by redhead (Don't bother to impeach the miserable SOB, ARREST him!)
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To: struggle
These do well against mobs.
40 posted on 06/29/2011 2:36:02 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: All

For someone to inform law enforcement of one of these impending, they would have to do it for money, because it won’t be out of conscience. This is social justice.

Keep in mind these kids also text in code. Many of the profiles on some of the gangsta friendly sites write in a language that is as foreign as you can get. I won’t post a link the one site I had in mind, since the profiles will attack your computer with viruses.

It is called Bebo for those who have some beefy anti intrusion software.


41 posted on 06/29/2011 5:29:30 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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