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The Four Most Likely Ways You Can Die If The SHTF
SHTF Plan ^ | 6-30-2011 | Tess Pennington

Posted on 06/30/2011 6:41:48 AM PDT by blam

The Four Most Likely Ways You Can Die If The SHTF

Tess Pennington
June 30th, 2011
Ready Nutrition

The subject of survival in a long term disaster goes beyond having stockpiles of beans, bullets and band-aids. Those that do survive during a long term emergency will no doubt be tried and tested with a great many things. One of those trying scenarios is dealing with death.

Zombie attacks seem to be a prevalent theme for preppers to prepare for. In fact, the CDC has even posted a preparedness article on how to ward off zombie attacks. While I believe these zombies will likely take the form of substance abusers, mental patients, chronically ill or diseased, and desperate individuals whose basic needs have not been met, they will die out in the first few months of an onset of a major disaster, and there presence will rarely be an issue in a long term situation.

In reality, a majority of those that will die during a long-term disaster will be from illnesses brought on by acute respiratory infections due to cramped living conditions, poor water conditions (or lack of), or bacterial infections from wounds. If we survive a major disaster, America would become a third world country and the aftermath of such a scenario will be similar to those living in Africa, Ethiopia and India.

Illness Due to Poor Water Conditions

Typically, any diseases that are brought on by lack of sanitation and hygiene are controllable and preventable. In a disaster where water sources are compromised, people within a 50 mile radius could be adversely impacted by illness and disease if just one person incorrectly handles water or incorrectly disposes of waste. Contaminated water, poor sanitation and/or lack of hygeine leads to diseases such as Hepatitis A, viral gastroenteritis, cholera, Shigellosis, typhoid, Diphtheria and polio. If these diseases affect enough people, an epidemic will ensue.

Dehydration and diarrhea are also water-related matters to contend with. Those without adequate water conditions and/or are suffering from disease brought on by poor water conditions could quickly dehydrate. These types of illnesses typically affect at-risk populations such as children, the sick and the elderly. Young children in particular are at high risk for diarrhea and other food- and waterborne illnesses because of limited pre-existing immunity and behavioral factors such as frequent hand-to-mouth contact. The greatest risk to an infant with diarrhea and vomiting is dehydration. In addition, fever or increased ambient temperature increases fluid losses and speeds dehydration. Having knowledge beforehand on how to properly clean drinking water and food, and the symptomatology and treatment of these types of diseases can prevent further outbreaks from occurring.

Recommended preparedness items: water filtration systems, water purification tablets, chlorine granules, bleach, electrolyte or rehydration powders, anti-diarrea medicines.

Malnutrition

Malnutrition from either improper water conditions or from lack of nutrients is also a large killer amongst those in impoverished communities. Medical experts say there is a symbiotic relationship between malnutrition and diarreah. Malnutrition increases the severity of diarrhea while diarrhea can cause malnutrition. Either way, prevention for both of these health issues is key.

Those that are malnourished are more suseptible to illness and disease. Individuals who are malnourished will also be vitamin deficient and their health is likely to regress further. Those who survive from malnutrition are permanently affected by this disease and may suffer from recurring sickness, faltering growth, poor brain development, increased tooth decay, reduced strength and work capacity, and increased chance of chronic diseases in adulthood. Adult women with this condition will give birth to underweight babies.

Recommended preparedness items: dietary supplements, vitamin powders, seeds for sprouting or seeds for fresh vegetables and fruits, survival bars, knowledge of alternative means to attain vitamins

Acute Respiratory Infections

Upper respiratory infections (URI) will also be a leading cause of death in a long term disaster. Upper respiratory infections include: colds, flu, sore throat, coughs and bronchitis can usually be cured with additional liquids, rest and nourishment. Allowing the illness to exacerbate will lead to secondary infections such as bacterial pneumonia. The germs from pneumonia are easily spread from an infected person to others by coughing or sneezing or through close contact. A major concern about respiratory infections is that there are many drug resistant strands of viruses, bacterias and diseases (including tuberculosis), that regular medicine will not cure. In a long term disaster situation, many could perish.

To properly prepare for this type of medical situation, learn about the more prevalent viruses and bacterias in your country and how to prevent them in order to provide a healthy living environment in a long term situation.

Not only are URI’s a concern but other air-borne diseases such as tuberculosis will likely fester during a long term scenario. In regular non-SHTF times, treatment for tuberculosis requires 6-12 months of medication. In a long term emergency, chances of surviving tuberculosis are slim. The best way to prevent tuberculosis is adequate nutrition, vitamin D and living in a properly ventilated shelter.

Survival groups that have multiple people living under one roof will only increase the likelihood of passing air-borne infections and diseases to one another. In addition, those in an at-risk group (elderly, immuno-deficient, infants) are more likely to catch illnesses. If a survival group is sharing a home, an infirmary or sick room should be prepared for those who have fallen ill. Isolating the person who is ill will limit exposure to the other members of the group. Adequate nutrition, water, rest, good sanitary practices and ventilation of the home is essential in curbing this.

Recommended preparedness items: decongestants, expectorants, upper respiratory medicines, antibiotics (for secondary and bacterial infections), knowledge on medicinal herbs, prepare a sick room at your survival homestead

Infections From Wounds

Open injuries have the potential for serious bacterial wound infections, including gas gangrene and tetanus, and these in turn may lead to long term disabilities, chronic wound or bone infection, and death. Anitibiotics will be few and far between and will be more precious than gold. Without proper medicines, antiseptic and knowledge on proper medical procedures, many will die of bacterial infections. Learning medical skills, gaining knowledge on natural medicines and alternative medical antiseptic (i.e., Dakin’s Solution) before a disaster occurs could help people survive from wound infections. Also, ensuring the area that you treat medical emergencies is clean and as sterile as possible may also prevent bacterial infections.

Recommended preparedness items: stock up on maxi pads for wound absorption, gauze, celox, antibiotics, suture needles and other basic first aid supplies

Additionally, consider developing the following skills: basic first aid class, sign up for EMT classes in your community, an off-grid medical care class such as those offered by onPoint Tactical. Also, consider investing in books such as When There is No Doctor and When There is No Dentist

Also look into making your own antiseptics utilizing alcohol distillation, such as the custom made units from LNL Protekt.

These illnesses (provided above) have impacted countries all over the world. These illness and conditions, coupled with unsanitary living conditions such as substandard sanitation, inadequate food and water supplies and poor hygiene, make disaster-affected people especially vulnerable to disease. These illnesses will affect us no matter what part of the world we live in, what socio-economic status we currently hold, and no matter how prepared we think we are.

Understanding what can happen and being prepared when it does is absolutely essential. The last thing we want to do when a serious condition arises is to panic. Preparing your supplies, developing your skills and educating the rest of your family and preparedness group on how to prevent, identify and counteract these serious conditions will provide a significant boost to your ability to survive if the worst happens.

Recommended Reading:

Patriot Nurse: 5 Diseases that Will Explode WTSHTF

Prevention and Management of Wound Infections

Water, Sanitation and Hygiene in Emergencies


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1 posted on 06/30/2011 6:41:51 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

BRAINS!!!!


2 posted on 06/30/2011 6:45:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: blam

bttt


3 posted on 06/30/2011 6:46:13 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Kartographer
A Doctor's Thoughts On Antibiotics, Expiration Dates, And TEOTWAWKI, By Dr. Bones

"Studies performed by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revealed that 90% of medications tested were perfectly fine to use 8-to-15 years after the expiration date. There was apparently no danger in the grand majority of cases. The FDA tested more than 100 medications, both prescription and non-prescription, and continues to study the issue today."

4 posted on 06/30/2011 6:46:40 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I have built and tested several "Water Distillers" they work flawlessly and will work using any type of heating source. (I buy used pressure cookers at yard sales and flea markets and use flexible copper tubing and a five gallon plastic bucket to make the "sump".)

I am told they will also double as liquor distillers which may come in handy as well if TSHTF.

5 posted on 06/30/2011 6:48:44 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: CholeraJoe; Delta 21; Nikas777; NoAmnesty; Yorlik803; TheOldLady; The Comedian; OB1kNOb; ...

Because, you just never know....
6 posted on 06/30/2011 6:48:55 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!


7 posted on 06/30/2011 6:51:42 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam
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8 posted on 06/30/2011 6:58:15 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Envisioning; waterhill

Ping!


9 posted on 06/30/2011 6:58:34 AM PDT by ixtl (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: blam

I guess when TSHTF I will have to break into the local pharmacies and get my wife a few years worth of pain pills and myself diabetes and hypertension meds.

Hope nobody else thinks of that [rolls eyes]


10 posted on 06/30/2011 6:58:49 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: hattend

Read “One Second After”. It’s a pretty sobering assessment of such a scenario.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 7:01:54 AM PDT by catman67
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To: blam

This was studied by the US Army in coordination with the FDA and was called the “Shelf Life Extension Program” or SLEP.

They classified the information so that the general public cannot see the results, but the 15 year conclusions got out before they pulled all access to the findings.

See their statement/warning/threat here:
http://www.usamma.army.mil/dod_slep.cfm

There are probably several reasons for withholding the conclusions - number one being the pharma’s bottom line.

And even that bit of info about tetracycline causing renal failure if it was taken past expiration has never been studied. There was one case where a person died of renal failure and they found that he had taken expired tetracycline, but that is not a determinative cause/effect relationship.


12 posted on 06/30/2011 7:02:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Why is distillation more important than simply boiling? Are there scenarios which imagine massive quantities of nonbiological contaminants? Or simply poisonous biological byproducts, like tomain (sp?)


13 posted on 06/30/2011 7:04:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: hattend

“Going Amish When TSHTF” placemarker.


14 posted on 06/30/2011 7:06:59 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: dangus
"Why is distillation more important than simply boiling?"

Distillation is superior to boiling because it can eliminate biological and many other contaminents such as heavy metals and other toxins.

Usually boiling water won't do such.

15 posted on 06/30/2011 7:10:33 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: dangus

There are several biologic agents that are heat-resistant, for example botulinum and anthrax spores, and S. aureus exotoxin. It takes at least 280 degrees F to for 20 minutes to kill them. Boiling under pressure is the only way to achieve those temperatures. That’s why non-acidic foods like tomatoes or other vegetables have to be canned in a pressure canner rather than a simple boiling water bath.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 7:14:15 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (NEVER try to go through passport control in Frankfurt wearing sunglasses.)
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To: MrB
"And even that bit of info about tetracycline causing renal failure if it was taken past expiration has never been studied. There was one case where a person died of renal failure and they found that he had taken expired tetracycline, but that is not a determinative cause/effect relationship."

I've read that the worst effect was stomach cramps and diarrea. Stop taking the tetracycline and both problems went away by themselves.

17 posted on 06/30/2011 7:14:52 AM PDT by blam
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To: Mad Dawgg

1 drop bleach /gal. helps also


18 posted on 06/30/2011 7:15:32 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: blam

Will somebody please explain to me what a zombie is? Is Haitian voodoo going to become rampant after TSHTF? And why should they only want to eat brains? I think there is a lot of nitwits or crazies out there.


19 posted on 06/30/2011 7:17:07 AM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: CholeraJoe

Botulinum! I said tomain, but was thinking botulinum.

Uh, CHOLERAJoe??? Hrmmm...


20 posted on 06/30/2011 7:19:19 AM PDT by dangus
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To: CholeraJoe; madd dawg
" That’s why non-acidic foods like tomatoes or other vegetables have to be canned in a pressure canner rather than a simple boiling water bath."

Thanks. Excellent info that I've been wondering about.
I have a big pressure cooker for canning. I bought smaller ones at yard sales (like madd dawg) for making stills of all sorts.

21 posted on 06/30/2011 7:20:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: ProudFossil

Funny...

In the zombie flicks, the zombie hoards came after the living to eat their brains, and subsequently turn them into zombies too.

It’s now being used allegorically to represent the urban hoards who stream out of the cities in search of food and water and attack those in the ‘burbs or the countryside who have said food and water.


22 posted on 06/30/2011 7:21:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ProudFossil

I presume the notion is that for survival purposes after an apocalypse, desperate and doomed people essentially are “zombies”: Many will kill to stave off death, even temporarily and if they are doomed anyway; AND it may be moral to kill them to protect those who are not doomed, if they pose a direct threat AND their infectious conditions or possible propensity towards violence may well make them functionally “zombies.”


23 posted on 06/30/2011 7:23:12 AM PDT by dangus
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To: headsonpikes

Wow, that has so many meanings around here.

“Going Amish”, in the literal sense, is what most will have to do to survive.

“Going Amish”, in the FReeper sense, is what the urban hoards will do when they try to ravage the countryside after the grid is down and their welfare checks stop.


24 posted on 06/30/2011 7:23:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ProudFossil

Brain dead people will come out of the woodwork and expect YOU to care for them.

And they will most likely try to take it from you if you don’t provide it willingly.


25 posted on 06/30/2011 7:24:18 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: ProudFossil
Zombie

"n modern times, zombies became a popular subject in horror fiction, largely because of the success of George A. Romero's 1968 film Night of the Living Dead [2] and they have appeared as plot devices in various books, films and in television shows. Zombie fiction is now a sizeable sub-genre of horror, usually describing a breakdown of civilization occurring when most of the population become flesh-eating zombies – a zombie apocalypse. The monsters are usually hungry for human flesh, often specifically brains. Sometimes they are victims of a fictional pandemic illness causing the dead to reanimate or the living to behave this way, but often no cause is given in the story."

26 posted on 06/30/2011 7:25:40 AM PDT by blam
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To: hattend

My teenage son is a type 1 diabetic and needs insulin to survive.

I hate reading SHTF articles.


27 posted on 06/30/2011 7:26:02 AM PDT by toast
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To: blam; Kartographer; All

Question for the group —

I get tons of Spam from ‘online pharmacies’ which promise cheap prices, and none of that ‘prescription’ nonsense...

Does anyone have any experience with these, or similar, and can point me to one that’s reasonably reputable and reliable??

My situation is that I get my meds from/through the VA, and their system is set up to deliver only what’s needed, when needed - with no provision for ‘emergency stocks’... (I’ve pointed out the FEMA guidelines to the pharmacists at the VA, and they just shrug...)

So, if I want to build up an emergency stock of my necessary meds (cardiac and COPD), I’ll have to get them ‘on the economy’, which would require my Primary Care provider to write me scrips, and she, being a good VA functionary, is reluctant to do so...

So I’m thinking that I am probably going to have to go to ‘alternate sources’, and that’s why I’m asking y’all for advice on a starting place, rather than relying on trial-and-error...


28 posted on 06/30/2011 7:26:15 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: toast

I can relate although I am type II and have it under control with glucophage. My wife requires morphine for her intense back pain (failed fusion).

I have a 120 day supply but unfortunately you can only get morphine in 30 day increments. So, she never has more than a 30 day supply. If the SHTF 2 days before her doctor appointment, she has a 2 day supply. :-(

That’s when I go rogue.


29 posted on 06/30/2011 7:32:36 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: blam

Luckily, I live in a place that will probably be vaporized quickly in the beginning.


30 posted on 06/30/2011 7:35:10 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: blam

I took a course of tetracycline many years ago and had non-stop diarrhea the entire time, and for 5 weeks after. I mean like 10 times a day.

Finally had to go to an acupuncturist to cure it.

I have bad to extremely bad reactions to most pharm meds I’ve taken. That’s one reason I became an herbalist.


31 posted on 06/30/2011 7:35:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: hattend

Grow poppies. Seriously, you should. The right kind of seeds are available by searching around the internet, at at least a few years ago. Often people who grow them will share poppy seeds.

Freepmail me for more info.


32 posted on 06/30/2011 7:37:22 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MrB

The more we become accustomed to calling the urban hoards zombies, the easier it will be for people to shoot them.


33 posted on 06/30/2011 7:38:00 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

And how do you FEEEEEEL about that, Stuart?


34 posted on 06/30/2011 7:39:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Very perceptive of you.

You can post for me from now on. ;^)


35 posted on 06/30/2011 7:40:42 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: Mad Dawgg

and you’re willing to share the design?


36 posted on 06/30/2011 7:41:57 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: stuartcr
Same here and I am OK with that. I would prefer to meet my maker than live in the zombie scenario.
37 posted on 06/30/2011 7:42:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: MrB

What happens, happens. We can’t live forever.


38 posted on 06/30/2011 7:43:36 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Ditter

It would be fun though, to use up all my ammunition shooting zombies.


39 posted on 06/30/2011 7:45:04 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: stuartcr

LOL right you are, we are prepared for that!


40 posted on 06/30/2011 7:46:22 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: blam; CholeraJoe

That’s simply not true about tomatoes. Here’s the definitive proof from the Ball homecanning site: http://www.freshpreserving.com/pages/recipe/215.php?recipe=63

Tomatoes can also be canned with nothing more than a solar oven: http://www.cookwiththesun.com/canning.htm


41 posted on 06/30/2011 7:47:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ProudFossil

Zombie: (noun) Any person who no longer has ready access to food, water or shelter and becomes desperate enough to kill you for yours. In other words, 90% of the population WTSHTF. Ask yourself what would you do to feed your starving children? Almost anything.

Why is Iran putting a monkey into space? It is a distraction. What they really want is to be able to put a 200 pound payload in orbit at 250 miles above earth. With 20 of these nuclear payloads they can cause the world’s modern society to revert to 16th century agrarian life styles.

Dr. Graham, Chair of the EMP Commission report to Congress in 2008 said that he believes an EMP detonation 250 miles above Kansas would cause loss of electricity nation wide and result in only 20% of the population surviving during the first year.

The book One Second After ended with the military coming to the rescue a year later after 75% had died but in reality, there would be no military coming to the rescue unless they were Chinese or Muslims.

But look at the bright side, removal of 6 billion people would almost eliminate the human carbon footprint.


42 posted on 06/30/2011 7:49:25 AM PDT by Any Fate But Submission (How Long Can You Tread Water)
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To: Ditter; stuartcr

Have you guys read “World War Z”?

Better yet, listen to it on audio.


43 posted on 06/30/2011 7:49:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Hordes. Hordes that are after your hoards.

That reminds me of a joke. “No, we don’t have any oars in this camp, and we don’t have any danged ‘aggis, either!”


44 posted on 06/30/2011 7:54:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I should be, but I'm not.)
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To: Tax-chick

thankya... speel czecher doesn’t catch misstakes like that.


45 posted on 06/30/2011 7:57:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

No you’re homophones ... it’s what sets us apart from the savages!


46 posted on 06/30/2011 7:57:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It goes without saying, so you can stop saying it.)
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To: blam

Many common antibiotics are available from farm supply sources, in bulk quantities, without a prescription and cheaper than the pharmacy.


47 posted on 06/30/2011 8:06:20 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: dangus

“Why is distillation more important than simply boiling?”

Boiling kills bugs fine, but leaves behind things like toxins, lead, arsenic, chemical weapons, selenium, and any toxins the bacteria/fungi have left behind. A filter will get particulates but not bad stuff that dissolves in the water (antifreeze, for instance).

Distillation removes most of that, boils the water to vapor, transports the vapor, condenses it. Energy intensive, though.


48 posted on 06/30/2011 8:09:19 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Ditter

The best prep is to make sure that you are prepared to die, strange as it sounds.

The population will be decimated, at the very least. I am prepared for a while, but not as long as I need to. And even so, the zombies could take care of that.

At that point, either God pulls through with miracles and keeps me alive that way, or my time is up.

But I know where I’m going when I die, so leaving this planet is not going to be a great loss. I’d RATHER go later than sooner, that survival instinct that God instilled in us, but I know that in probably 30 years the point will be moot anyway.


49 posted on 06/30/2011 8:09:47 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: metmom

The other alternative is that you are caught up in the Rapture before TEOTWAWKI.


50 posted on 06/30/2011 8:15:02 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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