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Obama one step closer to his goal of forcing state secession
http://cbpatriot.com/Guest_Columns.html ^ | June 29, 2011 | Scott Ryan

Posted on 06/30/2011 5:49:50 PM PDT by publius321

The appeals court ruled today in favor of Obama’s “health reform”

The court said Affordable Care Act is a ‘valid exercise’ of congressional power.

Here's all you need to know. The United States of America is hanging by a thread. If this abomination of a law is upheld by the Supreme Court, several state legislators will defend the constitutional right of their citizens. The gravity of the decision to come by the Supreme Court cannot be mitigated. If this law stands, there will be secession - and the Keynesian Kenyan will likely not leave well enough alone. Since he came here to destroy this country from the day he popped out of nowhere, he would no doubt declare war on the more virtuous half of this land that should be called the GFSA (God Fearing States of America).

If this saboteur wins re-election in 2012 and has his way with this nation for another four years, following is a projection of what the intellectually indolent media will be saying :

"Look at the parallels between Barack Obama and Abraham Lincoln... He's a second coming of Lincoln, from Illinois, he announced his candidacy in front of the state house where Lincoln served, he campaigned in front of Lincoln images in 2007, he served the same menu at his inauguration, was sworn in on Lincoln's Bible... AND NOW - he presides over America's SECOND CIVIL WAR..."

But the leftist sycophants won't be explaining that this man deliberately instigated and picked at every wound, sowed discord in every fathomable way and deliberately CAUSED the WAR!

His administration has methodically divided this nation day by day, step by step.

This corrupt regime is suing a litany of Border States for simply enforcing the federal laws for which this centralized government was constitutionally chartered - protecting the borders.

They are forcing the states to sue them for forcing citizens to participate in his Marxist healthcare scam. In a time of multiple wars he has forced the legal approbation of homosexuality within all branches of the military.

This Trojan horse is not content to stop there as his administration now seeks to promulgate homosexual “marriage” within the ranks of the military and indoctrinating our soldiers sowing discord in the midst of their engagements.

They are now spitting in the faces of grieving families as they fight to prohibit the use of the word God or Jesus at military funerals of our fallen soldiers (as we have seen this very week in the news).

This administration has worked tirelessly to prevent the enemy combatants from being tried at military tribunals, instead granting these terrorists “constitutional rights” in our own judicial system – rights of a constitution these enemies themselves abhor and are fighting to destroy!

And today, on the same day this federal court upheld this effrontery against our nation, Obama castigated our congress for attempting to save this nation from bankruptcy, demanding like a petulant child that they RAISE taxes in order to codify what will be the death knell to our economy.

This man who was raised by leftists in a disfunctional family, despising every principle upon which this great nation was founded is like a culmination of all our national sins, embodied in one very real individual. He has a plan for America and it makes fictional stories like The Manchurian read like Disney.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: court; healthcare; obama; secession

1 posted on 06/30/2011 5:49:53 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

LOL

NOBODY believes a state will leave.

TEXAS COULD NOT EVEN PASS THEIR TSA law.

It’s over people. Politicians are liars. Our hope will be found elsewhere.


2 posted on 06/30/2011 5:55:58 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: publius321
Look at the parallels between Barack Obama and Abraham Lincoln... He's a second coming of Lincoln, from Illinois, he announced his candidacy in front of the state house where Lincoln served, he campaigned in front of Lincoln images in 2007, he served the same menu at his inauguration, was sworn in on Lincoln's Bible... AND NOW - he presides over America's SECOND CIVIL WAR..."

This kenyan POS isn't fit to shine Lincoln's shoes. He may fancy himself Lincoln and the sycophants in the media will tell us he's another Lincoln or Kennedy while at the same time telling us we're in a recovery and there's no inflation, but that's pure BS.

3 posted on 06/30/2011 5:56:19 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: publius321
Oh for crying out loud, to Obama it is nothing more than $$$ and power augmented by a total disdain for the American way of life.

He's not a threat...

4 posted on 06/30/2011 5:57:59 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: YankeeReb

“This kenyan POS isn’t fit to shine Lincoln’s shoes. He may fancy himself Lincoln and the sycophants in the media will tell us he’s another Lincoln or Kennedy while at the same time telling us we’re in a recovery and there’s no inflation, but that’s pure BS.”

Of course. I hope you didn’t have the impression that the author was advancing that as his personal view. The point is that is what the “intellectually indolent” meadia will propund to their idiot viewers.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 6:00:32 PM PDT by publius321
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To: YankeeReb

What civil war? I haven’t seen any fighting. We can’t even get enough people out to vote - let alone fight a civil war. Too many lazy Americans walk among us to ever do anything about the problems we are facing. Heck - most Americans don’t even know what the problem is - let along a solution.


6 posted on 06/30/2011 6:01:22 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: publius321

Talk of Secession is cheap.

Nobody is going to secede over Obamacare.

It IS a definite violation of the Concstitution, but we have seen violations before and as soon as we get one more liberal on the court we will see it again.

As long as so many people are getting Welfare, unemployment, pensions, and there are still a few working there will be no secession.

We will have to wait and see what the Supreme Court says, but things will have to get a lot worse than they are before States and Citizens are ready to take the country apart and fix things.The next Civil war will not be like the last. No black and white issues here. This one will be political liberals against Conservatives., and it will be fought in the streets not in the South or the North, but all over.


7 posted on 06/30/2011 6:02:00 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: EGPWS

“He’s not a threat...”

Wow! It is scary that you don’t see this saboteur as a threat. Damn right it feels good to insult the intelligence of evil men. It feels good to insult satan himself - but to pretend that he hasn’t ALREADY done extraordinary damage (a fraction of which was enumerated in the aforementioned column) - to make such a pretense that this evil man is harmless is damn right irresponsible and credulous.


8 posted on 06/30/2011 6:04:27 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

“He has a plan for America and it makes fictional stories like The Manchurian read like Disney.”

The creepy teleprompter should be enough to let most people see that. Don’t they?


9 posted on 06/30/2011 6:04:56 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: EGPWS

He is a bit more then ya think. You would never make a decent G2 by underestimating the enemy’s strength.


10 posted on 06/30/2011 6:07:49 PM PDT by Lumper20 (state)
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To: silentknight

“What civil war? I haven’t seen any fighting. We can’t even get enough people out to vote - let alone fight a civil war. Too many lazy Americans walk among us to ever do anything about the problems we are facing. Heck - most Americans don’t even know what the problem is - let along a solution.”

In all due respect (as far as I know), there are indeed many lazy Americans but- take away their entitlements and you will see how lazy and imobile these people are.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 6:08:00 PM PDT by publius321
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To: silentknight

Sadly you’re right. IMHO there’s about 40% who know what’s going on. They’re hopping mad as they watch the country being flushed down the crapper. The rest either don’t give a shiite or they’re committed leftists who are cheering on the destruction. These radicals may get their wish, but what they don’t realize is the same fate awaits them as happened to the early Bolsheviks after Stalin took over. Most of those “useful idiots” didn’t survive the 1920s.


12 posted on 06/30/2011 6:08:09 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Venturer

We will run out of money soon? Then what?


13 posted on 06/30/2011 6:11:09 PM PDT by scbison
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To: EGPWS

Just wait until he finishes consolidating his muslim brethren.... and enabling Iran. He has just about finished the North African Caliphate. His seeds are well planted. He is even using tax dollars to give Libya’s resources to the upcoming egyptian MB. ...add in his gifts of Afghanistan and Iraq.....
He has totally changed the war trajectory in the Mid East and a extension of that problem will be on our shores before the next election.


14 posted on 06/30/2011 6:11:49 PM PDT by himno hero ("Armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"... Barrack Obama's vision)
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To: silentknight
NOBODY believes a state will leave.

That is not a true statement. We just have not arrived at the cataclysmic event yet: and that is not just my opinion-- it is historical fact.

Untenable political bonds coupled with hyperinflation would light that fire.

15 posted on 06/30/2011 6:14:49 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: silentknight

More pain is coming. More people are feeling it. There will be a strw that breaks the Camels back. Many Americans. As I am are sworn to protect the Constitution. And will.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 6:17:12 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: scbison

Then ,Katie bar the door.


17 posted on 06/30/2011 6:18:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: publius321

It truly is amazing that of the millions of people (maybe that many) that we could have selected from to be president, we chose this jacka**.


18 posted on 06/30/2011 6:20:30 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: publius321
When the feds are broke, the Chinese refuse any more credit, and the starving millions on welfare riot, Obama's troops, the state and local cops, will shoot them.
What makes you think that our SWAT teams of butchers is any different than the Greek police, or the Syrian military?
19 posted on 06/30/2011 6:31:30 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: Venturer; All

I took some time on this because I have heard this all before.

Venturer: “Talk of Secession is cheap.

Publius321: It isn’t cheap and I am certainly not campaigning for it. I am PREDICTING it because it could not be more obvious that Obama is instigating it. He is here to destroy this nation he has for his lifetime loathed.

Venturer: Nobody is going to secede over Obamacare.”
Publius321: Nobody said it was just that issue alone. If you read the column instead of just the title, you will see that the writer enumerates a litany that is only a fraction of the assaults that daily emanate from this administration.

Venturer: It IS a definite violation of the Constitution, but we have seen violations before and as soon as we get one more liberal on the court we will see it again.

Publius321: Those who compare history with all of the usurpations and encroachments of this administration could easily see that the violation of the stares that culminated in 1861 were modest compared to the evil this terrorist and his regime have promulgated over the past two years. He has attacked just about every sacred pillar that made this country great.

Venturer : “As long as so many people are getting Welfare, unemployment, pensions, and there are still a few working there will be no secession.”

Publius321: One must be incredibly naïve to believe that this litany of entitlements can be maintain without enslaving generations of workers expected to support the Boomers, not to mention the mass euthanasia that will also be required. It must fall and that is the very cause advanced by this saboteur.

Venturer : “We will have to wait and see what the Supreme Court says, but things will have to get a lot worse than they are before States and Citizens are ready to take the country apart and fix things.”

Publius321: Again, that is what the column actually says. This all depends upon the Supreme Court and the 2012 elections.

Venturer : “The next Civil war will not be like the last. No black and white issues here. This one will be political liberals against Conservatives. and it will be fought in
the streets not in the South or the North, but all over.”

Publius321: Obama would LIKE to make it out to be a racial issue but it won’t be. The southern states will be the main states to secede, the same states that are now suing the fed and the same states the Obama “Justice Dept.” is suing for enforcing the federal law the federal government itself violates.
Publius321: These were people saying the same things you wrote in the late 1850’s right up to the Civil War. They can’t envision it because of course we don’t WANT secession. States exhaust every last option against the tyrant until they have no other choice – just as our founding fathers did.
I’m done explaining this


20 posted on 06/30/2011 6:33:27 PM PDT by publius321
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To: Venturer; All

I took some time on this because I have heard this all before.

Venturer: “Talk of Secession is cheap.

Publius321: It isn’t cheap and I am certainly not campaigning for it. I am PREDICTING it because it could not be more obvious that Obama is instigating it. He is here to destroy this nation he has for his lifetime loathed.

Venturer: Nobody is going to secede over Obamacare.”
Publius321: Nobody said it was just that issue alone. If you read the column instead of just the title, you will see that the writer enumerates a litany that is only a fraction of the assaults that daily emanate from this administration.

Venturer: It IS a definite violation of the Constitution, but we have seen violations before and as soon as we get one more liberal on the court we will see it again.

Publius321: Those who compare history with all of the usurpations and encroachments of this administration could easily see that the violation of the stares that culminated in 1861 were modest compared to the evil this terrorist and his regime have promulgated over the past two years. He has attacked just about every sacred pillar that made this country great.

Venturer : “As long as so many people are getting Welfare, unemployment, pensions, and there are still a few working there will be no secession.”

Publius321: One must be incredibly naïve to believe that this litany of entitlements can be maintain without enslaving generations of workers expected to support the Boomers, not to mention the mass euthanasia that will also be required. It must fall and that is the very cause advanced by this saboteur.

Venturer : “We will have to wait and see what the Supreme Court says, but things will have to get a lot worse than they are before States and Citizens are ready to take the country apart and fix things.”

Publius321: Again, that is what the column actually says. This all depends upon the Supreme Court and the 2012 elections.

Venturer : “The next Civil war will not be like the last. No black and white issues here. This one will be political liberals against Conservatives. and it will be fought in
the streets not in the South or the North, but all over.”

Publius321: Obama would LIKE to make it out to be a racial issue but it won’t be. The southern states will be the main states to secede, the same states that are now suing the fed and the same states the Obama “Justice Dept.” is suing for enforcing the federal law the federal government itself violates.
Publius321: These were people saying the same things you wrote in the late 1850’s right up to the Civil War. They can’t envision it because of course we don’t WANT secession. States exhaust every last option against the tyrant until they have no other choice – just as our founding fathers did.
I’m done explaining this


21 posted on 06/30/2011 6:33:35 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

Is that why they keep comparing him to Lincoln and the Stupid was reading a book about Lincoln?


22 posted on 06/30/2011 6:33:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Salvavida

Is it to simplistic to believe that a state that intends to suceed should start to print its own currency.

Let the people decide what currency they trust more.


23 posted on 06/30/2011 6:35:06 PM PDT by right way right
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To: silentknight
Yeah, that bill dies thanks to the usual suspects (RINOS). Meanwhile there is this:

New state law coming that requires you to prove citizenship to renew license Newsroom 6/30/2011 An immigration-related provision tucked into a must-pass budget bill could have more of an effect on Texans than the high-profile sanctuary cities legislation that the Legislature did not pass. Throughout the regular and special sessions, lawmakers spent dozens of hours debating and hearing testimony on so-called sanctuary cities legislation, which would prohibit governments from adopting policies that prevent law enforcement from asking about detainees' immigration status. The bill, which was labeled an emergency item by Gov. Rick Perry, never got out of the Legislature. But a less examined — and arguably more wide-reaching — piece of immigration-related legisla tion will soon become a law. A provision in the approved Senate Bill 1, the special session's must-pass school finance bill, will require people to prove U.S. citizenship or legal residence before they can renew or get a Texas driver's license.

The full story is here
24 posted on 06/30/2011 6:40:03 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Texas needs to look out. They seem to have a growing liberal faction. I have not been there but I hear gays have taken over Austin. The same with the once conservative NC. The sodomites took over Raleigh and Ashville... the nice locations.


25 posted on 06/30/2011 6:45:01 PM PDT by publius321
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To: silentknight

Well said and sadly.....quite correct.


26 posted on 06/30/2011 6:48:26 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: publius321

The homosexual “colonisation” of Austin happened years ago.


27 posted on 06/30/2011 6:54:40 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: right way right

Currency is only half the equation. Indeed, it may not even be half. Our own revolution wasn’t tied to merely coin; nor was our civil war. There were legal and cultural differences that could not be reconciled.

My point being, states are not talking about seccession because we have not experienced an event (yet), that would serve as the catalyst.

But that doesn’t mean there are not groups below the state level that are talking. And the talking is increasing because such a potentiality is becoming more and more plausible.

southernnationalcongress.org is one example of the talk. While they do not advocate seccession— they seemed to have arrived to the conclusion that something has got to give.

Southerners aren’t exactly kicking their doors down. But the dollar isn’t worth 13 cents yet, and the SCOTUS has not solidified total control to the Federal Government....yet.


28 posted on 06/30/2011 6:56:05 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Army Air Corps
The homosexual “colonisation” of Austin happened years ago.

I would bet that Mary Kay Cosmetics sells to more males than to females given the number of granola type womyn here.

29 posted on 06/30/2011 6:59:34 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: publius321

I believe you are 100% correct.

Some states may try to leave, but the more realistic scenario is anarchy brought on by class warfare and thugism in the streets, exacerbated by the vitriol coming from Obama. Social order will go, and the states are too weak to be the fall-back form of government holding things together. Some local couties and cities will be able to self-govern. It will be more like Afghanistan than Bosnia.

That is why guns and ammo and survivalist self sustainment is so important and popular these days. The government will look like it did during Katrina. Could not even deliver water, much less govern at the state or even county level. And the Feds and Fema were completely useless. Politicians are too busy stealing and paying back the people that own them to actually exercise any kind of political leadership. That is why wwe are in the sorry state we find ourselves.


30 posted on 06/30/2011 7:13:27 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: publius321
"The Keynesian Kenyan"

ROTFL!!! Good one!

31 posted on 06/30/2011 7:27:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When the going gets tough, the tough check themselves into "rehab".)
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To: publius321

If the fraud does get re-elected next year, there will be a secession movement in a lot of states. The smart states will do this to get out from under the federal debt, and will form a new union without this burden. And the fraud won’t be able to lift a finger to stop it, the military will not allow itself to be used against other americans here. Plus, the fraud would probably welcome secession because he wants this country to break apart, it is part of his overall plan.

However, if/when he loses next year , the leftists and inner city blacks will attempt to start a new civil war, they will burn the cities to the ground. In other words, there will be blood.


32 posted on 06/30/2011 7:29:00 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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To: FlyingEagle

Possibly you are correct, but the anarchy will only last for a short time. During those days the majority will choose to yield over most of their rights, in desperate longing for safety/normalcy, to an authoritarian/fascist state. This new government will have the consent of the church (small c), most social conservatives, and most economic liberals.


33 posted on 06/30/2011 7:31:04 PM PDT by reflecting
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To: publius321

They’ve taken over Greensboro as well.


34 posted on 06/30/2011 7:36:15 PM PDT by amishman (0bama=the reincarnation of Jim Jones)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Thanks Fling. I coined the term a few wweks ago! I expect prosaic pundit will steal it in a few more weeks and pass it off as original. So it goes.


35 posted on 07/01/2011 5:17:46 PM PDT by publius321
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