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Sarah Palin: Joan of Arc reborn (the resignation in light of the 2010 elections) [vanity]
Free Republic ^ | July 3, 2011 | Paul Goldman

Posted on 07/03/2011 8:47:55 PM PDT by techno

Today is the two year anniversary of Sarah Palin resigning from being Governor of Alaska.

In the light of that resignation here is a piece written before the midterm election which highlights the impact that resignation had on the election and the future of the Republican party.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2590825/posts

(Excerpt) Read more at freerepublic.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: iquitarod; joanofarc; palin; politics; sarahpalin; wapo; washingtonpost
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1 posted on 07/03/2011 8:47:58 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

The MSM should be charged with stalking.


2 posted on 07/03/2011 8:52:13 PM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PING


3 posted on 07/03/2011 9:05:32 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: techno

I like Palin, but unless the Dems burn her at the stake she ain’t no St. Joan of Arc.


4 posted on 07/03/2011 9:06:24 PM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't win they simply violate the rules of the forum)
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To: techno

I hope not it didn’t turn out very well for Joan.


5 posted on 07/03/2011 9:09:10 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: vladimir998; ThomasThomas; onyx; 2ndDivisionVet
Palin would kick Joan of Arc's ass.

;^\/

6 posted on 07/03/2011 9:15:48 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: Gargantua

then why did she endorse John McCain?


7 posted on 07/03/2011 9:25:15 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: techno

Let’s not get carried away...


8 posted on 07/03/2011 9:28:07 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: techno

No matter what the actual merits of that article are, the title alone is enough to draw PDSers from all directions.

Guns up! Incoming!


9 posted on 07/03/2011 9:35:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: famousdayandyear
then why did she endorse John McCain?

Lord, you are a newbie, aren't you? Even our resident PDS squad has dropped that liberal talking point.

10 posted on 07/03/2011 9:37:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: frogjerk

She resigned for the good of the people of her state due to the stalkers.


11 posted on 07/03/2011 9:52:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Windflier

I think you got me wrong. I don’t like being attacked personally — I was trying to make the point that Palin has a savvy, politically astute and wily presence that she should not try to hide as an “aw shucks” country road persona. You may think I’m an idiot. That’s fine. Just as many make the mistake of thinking Palin an idiot when she’s DEFINITELY NOT.
Pax and bonum.


12 posted on 07/03/2011 9:57:22 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: techno

Good article. I hope everyone reads it in toto.


13 posted on 07/03/2011 10:00:23 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: frogjerk

Another hit piece from WaPo. Yawn, the media left is so predictable.


14 posted on 07/03/2011 10:06:34 PM PDT by BAW (I'm right.)
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To: famousdayandyear
I don’t like being attacked personally

You considered that a personal attack? Friend, you're going to have to grow some hide, if you want to hang with this crowd. What I said to you was mild by FR standards.

I was trying to make the point that Palin has a savvy, politically astute and wily presence that she should not try to hide as an “aw shucks” country road persona.

No, you weren't. You said (and I quote): "then why did she endorse John McCain?"

That's a worn out liberal attack point that has been posted to this forum a thousand times, and which has been knocked down just as often. Anyone spouting that on this forum today, is instantly suspect as a liberal, or some sort of paid plant.

You may think I’m an idiot. That’s fine. Just as many make the mistake of thinking Palin an idiot when she’s DEFINITELY NOT.

I may have called you a newbie, but I never implied that you were an idiot. Don't make that assumption.

Alright. You might want to spend a bit of time getting the flavor of this place before jumping in with both feet, but if you're the courageous sort, be my guest. You may get a few bumps and bruises along the way, but if you grow that hide I mentioned, you'll be fine.

Peace to you, too. WF

15 posted on 07/03/2011 10:11:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: techno
Bottom line..Palin is a loser. She was supposed to bring in the conservative vote for McNasty and she didn't. We git our asses handed to us. If she couldn't drag McCain across the line against a guy named Hussein she ain't winning. Jump on the Perry bandwagon.
16 posted on 07/03/2011 10:13:07 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: famousdayandyear
I was trying to make the point that Palin has a savvy, politically astute and wily presence that she should not try to hide as an “aw shucks” country road persona.

Kinda hard to glean that from "then why did she endorse McCain.?"

17 posted on 07/03/2011 10:14:51 PM PDT by digger48
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To: normy
Bottom line..Palin is a loser

You are kidding, right?

18 posted on 07/03/2011 10:20:09 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: MountainDad
nope, she couldn't drag Mc Cain to victory against Hussein, why should I believe she wins on her own?
19 posted on 07/03/2011 10:23:04 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Windflier

Palin endorsing JM was not “ass-kicking” — it was political.
Palin endorsing JD Hayworth would have been outrageously courageous (the persona we all love). That is the ONLY point I was (acting stupidly) trying to make. Go ahead — make my day.


20 posted on 07/03/2011 10:24:41 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: normy
nope, she couldn't drag Mc Cain to victory against Hussein, why should I believe she wins on her own?

So it was up to her win the election when McCain was the "headliner"?

I've seen your types' before. And I think you bought into all the PDS hype.

Am I wrong?

21 posted on 07/03/2011 10:33:23 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: MountainDad

MY types? No, Mccain was a war hero who was also a squishy “moderate”. Palin was chosen to shore up the base. We got our asses handed to us by a guy named Hussein. So who will vote for Palin above those that voted for her and McCain?


22 posted on 07/03/2011 10:39:20 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: MountainDad

Look. Just tell me how she wins on her own? She doesn’t.


23 posted on 07/03/2011 10:40:54 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: techno

That’s Joan of AK.


24 posted on 07/03/2011 10:42:24 PM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: famousdayandyear
Palin endorsing JM was not “ass-kicking” — it was political.

Who are you talking to? I never said anything about "ass kicking". Are you sure you're not responding to the wrong poster?

In our last exchange, you claimed to have been making the point that
"Palin has a savvy, politically astute and wily presence..."
, although your earlier comment was,
"so why did she endorse John McCain?"

I can't figure out how those two comments square with one another, and I indicated that to you in my last post.

Frankly, I don't understand what point you're trying to make.

25 posted on 07/03/2011 10:54:24 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: normy
Look. Just tell me how she wins on her own?

16% REAL unemployment.

A sitting President by-passing congress to enact regulations through "agencies", (like the EPA).

The economy in the tank.

Cutting benefits to our military...(this is real....I know!)

Bottom line... he's a Dumb-ass who got elected because he's a half-black selected candidate who appealled to the "American "Idle" crowd!

Anyway..I could go on. Hope you will see the light. I did in 1979 when Reagan ran.

Have a great holiday!

26 posted on 07/03/2011 11:04:21 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: Windflier

Yes, you are right. My initial post was to respond to another poster (see post #6 “Palin would kick Joan of Arc’s ass.”) Since you responded (out of the blue I might add), I assumed (acting stupidly again) you were the poster at #6. So there you go — case of mistaken identity. The point I am trying desperately to make is that Palin is not ALWAYS the saint of the day. She is smart, yes, and more POLITICALLY SAVVY than most want to give her credit for. If she were not such a POLITICAL animal, she would not have endorsed McCain for the Senate seat. I feel like I am shouting. How much plainer can I state the case?


27 posted on 07/03/2011 11:09:29 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: famousdayandyear
then why did she endorse John McCain?

Because she wanted to.

28 posted on 07/03/2011 11:12:20 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: upsdriver

BHO does it “just because he wanted to”


29 posted on 07/03/2011 11:17:27 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: techno

I would note Joan of Arc wound up on the ash heap of history.


30 posted on 07/03/2011 11:20:38 PM PDT by tlb
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To: normy

“She was supposed to bring in the conservative vote for McNasty and she didn’t.”

Huh? What election were you watching? She brought the conservative vote... but McCain’s precious moderates and independents all flocked to the snake oil salesman.


31 posted on 07/03/2011 11:24:09 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: tlb

Weird thing to say, she is pretty famous for someone of 600 years ago. I have three or more movies made of her life.


32 posted on 07/03/2011 11:28:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: normy
Palin brought in this conservative. I would have never voted for Mcnasty without her.

McCain lost it on his own. Don't even try to blame Palin for his being an awful candidate.

33 posted on 07/03/2011 11:40:47 PM PDT by Palin_Rubio2012
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To: normy
Palin brought this conservative in. Was never going to vote for McCain without her.

McCain lost it on his own. Don't even try to blame Palin.

34 posted on 07/03/2011 11:41:02 PM PDT by Palin_Rubio2012
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To: famousdayandyear
Yes, you are right. My initial post was to respond to another poster...

Alright, cool. Glad we got that out of the way. I had a feeling that more than one conversation was going on here.

The point I am trying desperately to make is that Palin is not ALWAYS the saint of the day. She is smart, yes, and more POLITICALLY SAVVY than most want to give her credit for.

Agreed, although I disagree about the saintly part (just kidding!).

If it weren't for the MSM working tirelessly to create the image in the public's mind that Sarah is a mental lightweight, it wouldn't exist. The terror that those in the political and propaganda class are in, would infect the entire left - and they just cannot have that. They simply have to use every tool at their disposal to paint a caricature of Palin that is easily digested by their already heavily indoctrinated pawns.

This is why it's so important for Palin to bypass the establishment media to get her message out, and to provide a bridge for the public to get to know her as she really is.

If she were not such a POLITICAL animal, she would not have endorsed McCain for the Senate seat.

That had nothing to do with politics. There wasn't a single thing to be gained by Sarah in giving her valuable endorsement to McCain. In fact, she risked losing the support of many people on the right for doing so, and that is precisely what happened.

Sarah gave her endorsement to McCain out of a sense of obligation to him. He was responsible for elevating her to the national stage, and she had been his running mate. McCain knows Sarah well enough to know that if he asked for her endorsement, that her sense of moral justness would compel her to support him in turn, which she did, despite the damage it did to her reputation among some of her supporters.

The ugliest thing about that, is that McCain knew full well that he was asking her to risk damage to her own reputation on his behalf. He's been in the political game long enough, that he was no doubt keenly aware of what a huge sacrifice she was making. And he did it anyway.

Now, what does that say about the sort of moral fiber McCain is made of? Obviously, it shows that he's a callous, uncaring lout, whose only concern is for his own worthless political hide. He doesn't get Sarah Palin, and likely doesn't care a whit that he compelled one of this nation's finest patriot leaders to bring injury upon herself for his benefit, and his alone.

I feel like I am shouting. How much plainer can I state the case?

Well, you finally cleared up every point you were trying to make, so you're past the need to shout or stress out on it now.

Alright. Carry on, but do remember what I said about growing that hide. It'll make your experience here a lot more enjoyable.

35 posted on 07/04/2011 12:07:06 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: normy

It would have been a bloodbath without Palin, and in 2010 she helped lead us to one of the greatest political sweeps in our history.

Even in December of 2008 Sarah was working to elect Republicans as she came out of the election fighting to energize demoralized conservatives.

December 2, 2008
“Newly reelected Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) credited Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin with firing up his base and allowing him to cruise to a victory over Democrat Jim Martin.”

“Sarah Palin came in on the last day, did a fly-around and, man, she was dynamite,” Chambliss told Fox News on Wednesday. “We packed the houses everywhere we went. And it really did allow us to peak and get our base fired up.”


36 posted on 07/04/2011 12:57:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: famousdayandyear
"...then why did she endorse John McCain?"

Yaaaa. Goooo! Bwaaahhh, deh baahhh doooo fahhh teuuufff booo daaahhh gooooh. Blaaaahhhh blaaaaahhhhhblaaaaaahhhhh!

Were you born this way, or was there an accident? So sorry for you. At least tell me you hair isn't red...

8^\/

37 posted on 07/04/2011 2:41:17 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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To: normy

If the Lord Jesus Christ Himself had returned for the second time and decided to run against Hussein, Hussein still would’ve won that election. He is a media creation.


38 posted on 07/04/2011 4:15:53 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: normy
Bottom line..Palin is a loser. She was supposed to bring in the conservative vote for McNasty and she didn't. We git our asses handed to us. If she couldn't drag McCain across the line against a guy named Hussein she ain't winning. Jump on the Perry bandwagon.

If you want to endorse Perry, just come out and do it. Taking shots at Palin, for following the "plan" that the McPain team had, is either cheap, uninformed, or both. They muzzled her - probably to keep her from outshining McCain.

39 posted on 07/04/2011 4:32:42 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Gargantua

Nope. Compared to St. Joan, Palin is a paper tiger.


40 posted on 07/04/2011 6:13:29 AM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't win they simply violate the rules of the forum)
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To: vladimir998

Believe the Left would love to burn Palin at the stake and they look at her as much of a threat to their survival as the English army did Jeanne d’Arc so many hundreds of years ago.


41 posted on 07/04/2011 6:30:12 AM PDT by techno
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To: techno
Check out the NEW thread:
LISTEN LIVE: "Bob & Mark" on KWHL in Alaska [Fourth of July]
Will SARAH PALIN call in today?

Betting the Farm on Sarah Palin ^ | July 4, 2011 | RonDog [and FRiends]
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 1:48:18 AM by RonDog

From: Betting the Farm on Sarah Palin

Post 12: To: onyx

Per Jack Wheeler, he has been told she will announce her candidacy on JULY 4TH.

[He had no way to confirm this, but that was what he was told by a close connection to Sarah.]

12 posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:55:37 AM by shield

If he's right, we will know soon!

From xfinitytv.comcast.net:

She did promise that if she ever announces that she’s running,
she’ll announce it first on this Anchorage morning show
apparently the "The Bob and Mark Show" on KWHL-FM, "K-Whale."
From KWHL.com/airtimes_schedule: click here to LISTEN LIVE!

Monday Through Friday

5:35am - 10:00am [Alaska time] - Bob and Mark
CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

42 posted on 07/04/2011 6:34:24 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: ansel12; All
I knew my comment would get more response than I could answer. I shouldn't have called her a loser with such a broad stroke, she's not. She has great role to play in the upcoming elections as a kinda kingmaker, but if she was gonna win the general election she would have brought in the votes to put McCain over the top. I think for every person who loves Palin, another person can't stand her.

McCain was the moderates dream. War hero, worked with the Dems, Senate Maverick (of course we know that means he went against Bush often) the big thing missing was the Conservatives hated the guy as a backstabber. In comes Palin, the candidate to bring in the Conservatives to the fold, instead she drove out some and brought in others. If McCain picked Huckabee he might have won.

43 posted on 07/04/2011 7:59:23 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: ansel12
That is her role. She is also a reason some seats were lost. A Palin endorsement in the right spot puts you over the top, a Palin endorsement in the wrong spot loses an otherwise winnable seat. I will give her much credit for her role in the House elections though.
44 posted on 07/04/2011 8:04:57 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: techno
At least she's not Reagan this week.
45 posted on 07/04/2011 8:06:45 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso Libre.)
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To: MountainDad

I have never voted for a Democrat, but you’re right, my eyes will have to be opened because right now I just don’t see it. Happy Independence Day to you too.


46 posted on 07/04/2011 8:07:15 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: tlb

And she heard voices in her head.


47 posted on 07/04/2011 8:08:49 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso Libre.)
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To: normy

McCain’s suspension of his campaign to vote for TARP, his refusal to blame Dems for the crisis that THEY created, and his unwillingness to hammer away at the Punk’s radical connections were the main reason that he lost. No one could have helped Juan enough for him to win. And they wasted Sarah, giving her standard boilerplate pabulum to deliver in her speeches. Gone was the energetic, on fire woman who delivered her convention speech flawlessly after her prompter broke a few minutes into the speech.
Normy, you massively underestimate what Sarah will be able to do and say now, speaking for herself. Bob


48 posted on 07/04/2011 9:23:48 AM PDT by alstewartfan (When you're fresh out of lawyers, you don't know how good it's gonna feel! Al Stewart)
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To: famousdayandyear
Palin endorsing JD Hayworth would have been outrageously courageous (the persona we all love)

It might have been considered 'courageous', but most would have considered it ungracious. Even JD Hayworth stated that he understood why Sarah endorsed McCain. If JD was content with it, why can everyone else be so, as well?

49 posted on 07/04/2011 10:04:16 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: vladimir998
Sorry to burst your bubble, Illy'ich, but Palin can make "Joan d'Arcs" out of popsicle sticks with one hand tied behind her back, then sign yo pitty on the rummy kine. Sah d'atay.

(gratuitous ethnic references from the movie "Pootie Tang")

8^D

50 posted on 07/04/2011 10:05:09 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval")
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