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There Will Be No More References To God At Houston Veteranís Cemetery, Not Spoken Or Written
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-06-11 | Skookum

Posted on 07/06/2011 6:27:01 PM PDT by Starman417

Arleen Ocascio, director of the VA cemetery in Houston, has decided to take the Marxist Revolution a step further and has decreed that there will be no references to God or Jesus and that all ceremonies must be written and submitted to her for pre-approval. Obviously, this low level bureaucrat has decided Obama's Revolution is stalled and she must pick up the standard and impose her will on the veterans who come to the cemetery to bury their loved ones.

According to her, there will be no mention of a Christian or Jewish God at future ceremonies, she has spoken and her feelings reflect the Democrats and their antagonism against God. There seems to be no antagonism against Allah, at least he has not been mentioned in Ms Ocascio's demands that religion or God not be mentioned in the ceremonies taking place in her cemetery.

Marilyn Koepp, Secretary of the National Memorial Ladies, a volunteer group that attends every funeral at this particular cemetery, was told by Arleen Ocascio that they could not mention God while on the cemetery grounds.

It's true that Obama'a Democrats wants to erase all traces of God from public buildings and our schools, but why must they insist that the veterans who pay the ultimate sacrifice or old heroes from the wars of yesteryear deny the presence of God before being interred with their brothers. Why is this tyrant being allowed to impose the Socialist creed against religion on the grieving families of our patriots. Is Obama's hatred of our military, going to be allowed to force undue suffering on our Goldstar families when they are at their most vulnerable time.

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: cemetery; god; houstonva; religion; verterans; vetcemetary; veteran
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1 posted on 07/06/2011 6:27:06 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

That decison will be overturned by outrage and then the she bitch will be fired.


2 posted on 07/06/2011 6:30:01 PM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: LucyT; Alamo-Girl; SandRat; left that other site
According to her, there will be no mention of a Christian or Jewish God at future ceremonies, she has spoken and her feelings reflect the Democrats and their antagonism against God. There seems to be no antagonism against Allah, at least he has not been mentioned in Ms Ocascio's demands that religion or God not be mentioned in the ceremonies taking place in her cemetery.

Is this my country?

3 posted on 07/06/2011 6:30:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Black flash mobs: street level reflections of elite liberal hatred for middle class America..)
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To: Starman417

She should be sued in her personal capacity, fraud under color of law; and if any other person is involved in an official capacity, then all of them for conspiracy to deprive rights.

Leftists need to start paying, personally, for carrying our their demon orders.


4 posted on 07/06/2011 6:30:11 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Starman417

That won’t stick around very long.


5 posted on 07/06/2011 6:31:12 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Starman417

Say it anyway! Who cares what this lady says. SAY IT. SCREAM IT!!!


6 posted on 07/06/2011 6:31:19 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Starman417
This is un-American and disgraceful. It also is a violation of the First Amendment.

...IMPEDING THE FREE EXERCISE OF RELIGION...

Put her goatsmellin' ass in jail where it belongs.

How's that "change" workin' out for everybody!?

7 posted on 07/06/2011 6:33:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When the going gets tough, the tough check themselves into "rehab".)
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To: GOPJ

Marilyn Koepp can go sit on a stump!


8 posted on 07/06/2011 6:33:34 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Starman417

2. Temporary Restraint. Arleen Ocasio, the United States Department of Veterans Affairs, and all those in concert with them are forbidden from dictating the content of speeches – whether those speeches are denominated prayers or otherwise – at the Memorial Day ceremony of National Cemetery Council for Greater Houston. The government is cautioned that interferences for this suit’s having been brought would be a further Constitutional violation.

Signed on May 26, 2011, at Houston, Texas.

Lynn N. Hughes
United States District Judge


9 posted on 07/06/2011 6:33:51 PM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: Starman417

10 posted on 07/06/2011 6:37:04 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

She supposedly shut down the Chapel.

That Commie needs to be fired.


11 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:08 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Lib women have to look like dikes? wtf


12 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:08 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida (D-20))
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To: RummyChick

Lib women have to look like dikes? wtf


13 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:22 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida (D-20))
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To: Starman417

We’ll see about that. I think Arlene is going to be unemployed before too long.


Here is what Houston National Cemetery Director Arleen Ocasio is alleged to have done since taking over last year:

1) Director Ocasio and other Cemetery Officials instructed Veterans of Foreign Wars District 4 to remove prayers from its burial rituals and to no longer utter remarks when handling the discharged shell cases from the rifle salute to the family of deceased veterans.
2) Cemetery Officials instructed American Legion Post 586 to remove prayers from its burial rituals.
3) Director Ocasio told the National Memorial Ladies that it could no longer include God Bless in its condolence cards or speak a religious message to veterans families.
4) Director Ocascio shut down the Cemetery chapel; it is now a meeting facility.


14 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:26 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: RummyChick

Lib women have to look like dikes? wtf


15 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:35 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida (D-20))
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To: Starman417

How on earth does she have the power to make that decision?


16 posted on 07/06/2011 6:41:20 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: GOPJ

>Is this my country?

Can you say that in Spanish?


17 posted on 07/06/2011 6:41:30 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FAK BARAK)
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To: bicyclerepair

From the Judge:

“They ministered to men who needed them – to all – not only to their personal calling. No deputy general counsel of the Department of Veterans Affairs was in the Ia Drang Valley. The veteran may be Jewish and his friends may be Christians – or Christians, atheists, Moslems, pagans, Shinto, and Sikh. “Friends,” of course, means all who appreciate what they did. The government cannot realistically speak for the religious sensibilities of the numerous and varied people of America, even if it were constitutional for it to try. It is for them to speak for themselves as when the President asked Rick Warren to speak for him in Jesus’ name at his inauguration. Americans are free – free to read, write, talk, and pray without permission from George III or other governmental power.”


18 posted on 07/06/2011 6:41:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Starman417

Patriotic Americans, it is time to...

DISOBEY!!!!!!


19 posted on 07/06/2011 6:42:57 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Starman417

Were a loved one of mine, having served their country honorably is now deprived of hearing the word “God’’ at their funeral by some low-level government flunky, I’d see to it that the flunky’s funeral would be the second one of the day.


20 posted on 07/06/2011 6:43:09 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Starman417

My stepfather was buried there 2 years ago, and my mother a few months ago.

This really hits home.


21 posted on 07/06/2011 6:44:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: GoCards

My parents taught me to pray to God from the time I can remember and I will continue to do so. NO ONE will ever tell me either that I cannot say the word God. Imagine...at a Vet cemetery? This woman has to be out of her freakin’ mind. NO ONE stands in OUR WAY of saying the word God and yes you are correct ... pray it. say it. scream it. yell it. etc.... this is the last straw when they want to think they can tell us when we can and can’t say God. Amen.


22 posted on 07/06/2011 6:44:57 PM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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To: Starman417

I posted this article a few days ago:

“Houston VA accused of censoring religious speech”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2741509/posts

Source link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7630537.html

Found her: Arleen Ocasio (with pic)

“Ocasio Selected as New Director of Houston VA National Cemetery” (Monday, April 12, 2010)

http://www.guidrynews.com/story.aspx?id=1000025672

Telephone numbers to call:

Houston VA Cemetery Number (303) 914-5700

Regional Director VA Cemetery (281) 447-8686


23 posted on 07/06/2011 6:45:48 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: jmacusa
Another good quote from the Judge:
"The right to free expression ranges from the dignity of Abraham Lincoln’s speeches to Charlie Sheen’s rants....

Thompson told the pastor that “the ceremony will commemorate veterans of all cultures and beliefs, and the tone of remarks must therefore be inclusive.” The government’s compulsion of a program’s inclusion or exclusion of a particular religion offends the Constitution.

The Constitution does not confide to the government the authority to compel emptiness in a prayer, where a prayer belongs. The gray mandarins of the national government are decreeing how citizens honor their veterans. This is not a pick-up-your-trash sign; this is a we-pick-your-words sign. These people say that remarks need to be content-neutral messages. The men buried in the cemetery fought for their fellow Americans – for us. In those fights, they were served by chaplains, chaplains of two faiths and many denominations, chaplains in the field."
24 posted on 07/06/2011 6:46:13 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Starman417
Arleen Ocascio, director of the VA cemetery in Houston, has decided to take the Marxist Revolution a step further and has decreed that there will be no references to God or Jesus and that all ceremonies must be written and submitted to her for pre-approval.

Ping for later

25 posted on 07/06/2011 6:48:35 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: max americana

Is this my country?

¿Es este mi país?


26 posted on 07/06/2011 6:48:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Starman417

This article is way behind this situation. Check this out:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7630537.html#ixzz1Qm7yRTQx


27 posted on 07/06/2011 6:51:09 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Starman417
"...For approximately 10 years before joining the National Cemetery Administration, Ocasio held various positions in the VA West Side Medical Center in Chicago, Ill., where she worked with minor contracts, maintenance contracts, and budget and was the Hispanic Employment Program assistant manager...."
28 posted on 07/06/2011 6:53:47 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (Because he was the son you bore, And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!)
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To: RummyChick

What is this BS!

When I did Honor Guard duties I would present the folded flag to the deceases next of kin with the words... I present this flag from a grateful nation as a token of your husband’s true and faithful service to his Country, May God Bless you, and your family, and May God Bless the United States of America.

This un-American,Bit*h needs to go, like yesterday!


29 posted on 07/06/2011 6:54:23 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: RummyChick

If the Constitution doesn’t respect ‘’an establishment of religion’’ how then can it determine or dis-allow what can or cannot be said at a Veterans Administration run cemetrey?


30 posted on 07/06/2011 6:55:44 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: maddog55

I hope she is fired.


31 posted on 07/06/2011 7:00:22 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Starman417

TRY AND STOP ME.


32 posted on 07/06/2011 7:01:20 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: RummyChick

Who will stop her?


33 posted on 07/06/2011 7:01:22 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: RummyChick

Put a burqa on her.


34 posted on 07/06/2011 7:01:43 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: frankenMonkey

Ahhhh!!! Chicago!!!


35 posted on 07/06/2011 7:02:42 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: maddog55

Don’t hold your breath — she will probably be promoted. She may just be following orders.


36 posted on 07/06/2011 7:12:02 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Starman417

There will come a time when in a higher court she will be asked to explain her decision.


37 posted on 07/06/2011 7:13:58 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Starman417

When injustice becomes law..it is your duty to REBEL!!!


38 posted on 07/06/2011 7:17:29 PM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: dalebert

A Judge had already issued an injunction. The Commie has until July 15th to respond.

I have been watching The Kennedy’s on netflix. The movie that got the boot from the history Channel.

Back then, our Government hated Commies. Kennedy tried to take out Castro twice. Castro got the last laugh.


39 posted on 07/06/2011 7:18:27 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Starman417

F*** the B****, do it anyway. What is she going to do, refuse to bury the casket?


40 posted on 07/06/2011 7:34:07 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Starman417

“The more you tighten your grip, Obama, the
more patriots will slip through your fingers.”

Princess Leia (sort of)


41 posted on 07/06/2011 7:34:16 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Starman417

She is the exact reason they should not let queers in the military or any part of the government. They are all sick, self-centered, arrogant, and vindictive.


42 posted on 07/06/2011 7:38:25 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Starman417

Libertarians will be tickled pink. They are all for freedom - as long as everyone is politically correct in word and association as dictated by the government.


43 posted on 07/06/2011 7:39:40 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Starman417

This is sooooooooo ripe for civil suits by families, friends, and supporting agencies.

Swing for the fence people! Take her down, and make it hurt.


44 posted on 07/06/2011 7:40:26 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Starman417

And just how does this “person” think she is going to enforce this “regulation” in “her cemetery”??

I predict she won’t be in that position for very much longer.


45 posted on 07/06/2011 7:52:34 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: SaraJohnson

Sara, you are badly misinformed regarding Libertarians. Actual Libertarians don’t want government or anybody else telling anyone what they should say or think.


46 posted on 07/06/2011 7:55:51 PM PDT by Alan Rumack
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
What I was thinking.

I live in Iowa so it's not practical for me, but a band of hearty Texans needs to get down there and have a prayer-in civil disobedience.

If they start mass arrests, even the media will have to put them all under the eye of the camera.

47 posted on 07/06/2011 8:18:21 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Geithner: Taxes on 'Small Business' Must Rise So Government Doesn't 'Shrink')
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks for providing the info. Will call tomorrow.


48 posted on 07/06/2011 8:25:21 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Starman417

Our govt can honor Osama bin Laden and give him a burial with respct to his religion and yet this woman is not willing too honor our veterans and their families with the same dignity? This makes me irate!!


49 posted on 07/06/2011 8:34:59 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: max americana
Can you say that in Spanish?

Right after the TSA pats down my five year old...

50 posted on 07/06/2011 8:36:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (Black flash mobs: street level reflections of elite liberal hatred for middle class America..)
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