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ATF Director Says Holder Obstructing 'Fast and Furious' Probe
nation.foxnews.com ^ | July 06, 2011 | nation.foxnews.com

Posted on 07/07/2011 7:40:58 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The Justice Department is obstructing the congressional investigation of a U.S. law enforcement operation intended to crack down on major weapons traffickers on the Southwest border, according to the embattled leader of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Ken Melson, the acting director of the ATF, lobbed the accusation when he sneaked in for an interview with congressional investigators on July 4, two days ahead of his scheduled interview with the inspector general about the operation known as "Fast and Furious," Fox News has learned.

"If his account is accurate, then ATF leadership appears to have been effectively muzzled while the DOJ sent over false denials and buried its head in the sand," Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said in a letter Tuesday to Attorney General Eric Holder. "That approach distorted the truth and obstructed our investigation."

The Justice Department is reportedly looking to oust Melson, who has been acting ATF director since April 2009, as the agency deals with its biggest scandal in nearly two decades. Andrew Traver, who was tapped in November by President Obama to become the permanent ATF director, could be named as acting director until the Senate acts on his nomination, sources have said.

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1 posted on 07/07/2011 7:41:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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It is unbelievable how the media and I believe the NYTimes are seemingly covering for Obama and his Justice Dept. by not headlining this story as it really is; Holder obstructing justice.


2 posted on 07/07/2011 7:44:03 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
If Eric goes down, will he cut a deal to take down Ubama instead?

Enquiring minds want to know!

3 posted on 07/07/2011 7:44:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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4 posted on 07/07/2011 7:45:58 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic.com. Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I smell what Issa’s cooking......and it smells delicious!


5 posted on 07/07/2011 7:46:09 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Very good question. At this stage it is obvious and I am sure Issa has all the evidence needed (he traveled to Mexico with a bipartisan committee) that Obama and Holder knew about this and they ordered it. Forrest Gump could figure this out.As of now Holder lied in sworn testimony claiming he had not known about this until two weeks before he appeared before Issa’s committee. Perjury and Obstruction for Holder and his Assistant AG. Obama will say he was not under oath and Holder will go under the bus.I do believe this is all serious enough for Holder to sing re: Obama. Melson is singing.


6 posted on 07/07/2011 7:50:34 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Boy do I feel sorry for Ken Melson.

The administration is currently digging up dirt on this guy and will do anything to destroy his reputation and credibility. I hope his family is prepared for what's headed their way.

7 posted on 07/07/2011 7:51:33 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

This is sort of like when the Nazis brought to light the Soviet atrocities at the Katyn Forest massacre.


8 posted on 07/07/2011 7:55:08 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If Eric goes down, will he cut a deal to take down Ubama instead?

You mean like Van Jones did?

oh, wait.....

9 posted on 07/07/2011 7:57:04 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Melson better not go to Ft. Marcy Park either.
10 posted on 07/07/2011 7:57:04 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
The ATF's acting director, Kenneth Melson, has been singing like a canary to congressional investigators as he pushes back against administration pressure for him to resign and take the fall for something that, at the very least, had to include the US Attorney's Office, the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration and possibly the Homeland Security Department.
11 posted on 07/07/2011 7:58:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
"Boy do I feel sorry for Ken Melson. The administration is currently digging up dirt on this guy and will do anything to destroy his reputation and credibility. I hope his family is prepared for what's headed their way."

I've not had a kind thing to say for him in the past, but I agree with you. While I suspect he's fighting against becoming the fall guy, I'll pray for him that he finds the integrity and moral courage to be forthright and honest through all that comes against him. Ultimately, it will be in his best interest to do so.

12 posted on 07/07/2011 7:58:49 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Michael.SF.
As Ron Brown said,"I won't go down alone!"

And he didn't.

13 posted on 07/07/2011 8:04:51 AM PDT by donozark (Beware the Imposter from Mombasa...)
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To: KarlInOhio

Perhaps Obi will send Melson on a fact-finding mission to Michoacan?


14 posted on 07/07/2011 8:06:25 AM PDT by donozark (Beware the Imposter from Mombasa...)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
The Justice Department is obstructing the congressional investigation of a U.S. law enforcement operation intended to crack down on major weapons traffickers on the Southwest border, according to the embattled leader of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

There they go again, premptively legitimizing ATF's presumed version of their motivation before the investigation is complete!

How do we know, till we've actually DONE the investigation, that the intent was not explicitly to gin up fake "evidence" for the left contention that it's the fact that we still have rights that's fueling Mexico's crime problem? And isn't it journalism's responsibility as the watchdog over government infringements of our liberty, to make the LEAST charitable assumption till proven otherwise, while being clear that at that point it IS just an assumption?

15 posted on 07/07/2011 8:06:35 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The part of this which still irritates me is the news still gives them credit for good intentions even now that it is pretty clear that they were not trying to trace guns.

They were sending so many guns into Mexico so they could bolster their claim that 90% of crime guns in Mexico come from the U.S.


16 posted on 07/07/2011 8:07:29 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: KarlInOhio
Melson better not go to Ft. Marcy Park either.

True, but it may not be his choice. He might get carried there after committing suicide by shooting himself three times in the back of the head.

17 posted on 07/07/2011 8:09:49 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: donozark

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140972/posts


18 posted on 07/07/2011 8:12:51 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: yarddog
The part of this which still irritates me is the news still gives them credit for good intentions even now that it is pretty clear that they were not trying to trace guns.

Exactly the point I made in my #15. Those news stories might end up robbing the investigation of any impact or any ability to show the statists up for what they are. People might walk away from this at the end, if they have any impression at all, it might be that this was a noble idea with a flawed implementation. And the honest guys at the lowest levels, who are actually the heroes of the story, might end up the ones everyone assumes screwed up.

19 posted on 07/07/2011 8:12:57 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I also want to know how a whistle blower that testified got fired. As well as Melson needs to be in a witness protection program; but what do you do when the ones that he is being protected from have full access to where he is because they are the AG and POTUS?


20 posted on 07/07/2011 8:18:34 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Still Thinking

You are exactly right and there is no doubt that the media know what they are doing.

They are consciously giving cover even while making just enough noise to claim they are reporting it.


21 posted on 07/07/2011 8:22:19 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Still Thinking

Yes, as well as Drudge not headlining any F&FGate stories.Why wait for Holder to resign and Obama to be impeached? Keeping in mind that in order to call the POTUS to the committee for questioning I think it would have to be an impeachment? OR could a sitting POTUS give a sworn deposition?


22 posted on 07/07/2011 8:23:26 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: yarddog

And this is FOX!! What do we have to do to get someone to do their job, start ANOTHER network??


23 posted on 07/07/2011 8:24:09 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: yarddog

Exactly!


24 posted on 07/07/2011 8:24:32 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Still Thinking

One of the agents whistle blowers was fired and the media kept it on the down low.


25 posted on 07/07/2011 8:26:53 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Still Thinking

It will slowly come. they can’t avoid this..it turns out Gunwalker was a national strategy.

No way Holder just found out about and No way that Obama didn’t know..and know way the CIA didn’t know.

They were letting guns walk to Honduras.


26 posted on 07/07/2011 8:28:43 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Still Thinking

Reporters would investigate and report.
Propaganda, official or tacit, avoids/spins the material as needed lest reprimands occur.


27 posted on 07/07/2011 8:31:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If Holder becomes the fall guy, he will receive a pardon from Obama. He will not turn on the community organizer turned president.


28 posted on 07/07/2011 8:36:46 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: ctdonath2

The DOJ’s response is unbelievable! They cite a 15 June 2011 statement of Issa’s that they were (all of a sudden) responding to subpoena’s so all is well...

http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/07/justice-department-snipes-back-at-issa-grassley/


29 posted on 07/07/2011 8:39:35 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

I like your sense of humor...

this obama thing? America corrupt to the core!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aCfR8rmrw&feature=youtu.be


30 posted on 07/07/2011 8:41:57 AM PDT by himno hero ("Armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"... Barrack Obama's vision)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Of course. They were cooperative. Nothing is amiss. Apologies for any confusion. All is right there as requested, printed in black-and-white (well, mostly black. An awful lot of it really. But it’s all there. Honest.)

Standard early dodge. “Problem? What problem? Oh, you misunderstood, and now our feelings are slightly hurt...” Throw it back at the opposition to explain, again, in more detail, distracting and delaying from the real issue: GUILTY AS HE!!.


31 posted on 07/07/2011 8:49:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

“what do you do when the ones that he is being protected from have full access to where he is because they are the AG and POTUS?”

You keep him as high-profile as possible.


32 posted on 07/07/2011 8:50:16 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: ctdonath2

Yep. I think it is a typical Saul Alinsky tactic.The horrifying part is the media is also spinning for them. Tax payer money used to buy weapons so the commiecrats can pass laws to take them away from us.


33 posted on 07/07/2011 8:57:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: KarlInOhio
Melson better not go to Ft. Marcy Park either.

Vince Foster didn't actually 'go' there either, did he? Wasn't he 'taken' there?

34 posted on 07/07/2011 9:04:28 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; All
"It is unbelievable how the media and I believe the NYTimes are seemingly covering for Obama and his Justice Dept. by not headlining this story as it really is; Holder obstructing justice."

The a difference between obstructing a Congressional Investigation and "Obstructing Justice" in the legal definition.

That's why it's time for a Special Prosecutor. A crime has been committed by persons in the DOJ AND the DOJ is obstructing a Congressional Investigation AND is not bringing criminal charges against any of the actors or conspirators.

Textbook case.

35 posted on 07/07/2011 9:22:58 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Still Thinking; yarddog

>>The part of this which still irritates me is the news still gives them credit for good intentions even now that it is pretty clear that they were not trying to trace guns.<<

Last night O’Reilley was asking the question of how the jury could possibly find Anthony not guilty when two FBI “experts” testified against her. For all the intellectual people who appear as guests none of them said a peep about Americans rapidly increasing loss of trust in our law enforcement agencies. Is it deserved?


36 posted on 07/07/2011 9:42:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Perjury and Obstruction for Holder and his Assistant AG. Obama will say he was not under oath and Holder will go under the bus.I do believe this is all serious enough for Holder to sing re: Obama. Melson is singing.

I predict he will not sing. He will hold out for a Presidential Pardon. If a pardon is not forthcoming, he will sing and sing and sing.

37 posted on 07/07/2011 9:45:38 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Still Thinking
FOX is not conservative.

They cover for Obama just as much as every other network.

Just because other networks hate FOX does not mean FOX is good.
38 posted on 07/07/2011 9:45:54 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Today's NY Times webpage (http://www.nytimes.com/) - the top three stories all have "Murdoch" in the title and concern some Brit journalist voicemail hacking story that nobody outside the UK could care less about.

Not a single word about the charges from a US Senator and Congressman that the Attorney General is personally obstructing justice in an international case of taxpayer funded gun running to drug gangs. Guns that were later used in multiple killings of Mexican citizens and a US border control agent.

And people who read the NY Times consider themselves well informed. Morons.

39 posted on 07/07/2011 9:50:45 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: cpdiii

There should be a law against a POTUS pardoning their own AG, admin or cabinet official.Obama would pardon himself before he resigns he is so corrupt.


40 posted on 07/07/2011 9:52:35 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: donozark
As Ron Brown said,"I won't go down alone!" And he didn't.

Which was too bad for the other people flying with him that day.

41 posted on 07/07/2011 9:53:18 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Still Thinking

I had to laugh. It is true. One thing despots are good at is covering up for one. Then mysteriously people kill them selves. Thats weird we didn’t even know he was upset. Yea Mr Melson better be heavily armed.


42 posted on 07/07/2011 10:00:00 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: KarlInOhio
Melson better not go to Ft. Marcy Park either.

Unless the grass has been replaced with carpet at Ft. Marcy Park I do not think it is a place of danger for him to go too...if like Foster by the time he got there he would already be cold and it and the danger past and done for.

43 posted on 07/07/2011 10:00:25 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron

http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2011/07/07/which-was-worse-watergate-or-operation-fast-and-furious/


44 posted on 07/07/2011 10:05:41 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Harry Reed and MSNBCNBCABCCBSPBSCNN “So what. Everybody obstructs justice when they run guns! George Washington was a gun runner who obstructed justice, too! He sold guns to criminals rebelling against government law, according to the majority of University historians!”


45 posted on 07/07/2011 10:29:47 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
The Justice Department is obstructing the congressional investigation of a U.S. law enforcement operation intended to crack down on major weapons traffickers on the Southwest border (but instead the guns have been used to kill American Citizens!), according to the embattled leader of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Fox News, I never knew you.
46 posted on 07/07/2011 10:35:53 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Eric is NOT going down...he’s the emperor’s pal and co-conspirator.......he’ll get a MEDAL, not a pink slip.


47 posted on 07/07/2011 10:51:57 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I think the New York Times gives us the best direction to this problem.

“He’s Impeachable, You Know”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/03/opinion/03bowman.html


48 posted on 07/07/2011 10:58:43 AM PDT by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over. Although, I am getting tired...)
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To: Ann Archy

Obama and Holder were probably shocked that Melson gave testimony without their permission. Holder will go under the bus with all of the other’s aboard the Obama express to communism. I am sure Melson is ‘one of them’ he was in on it but decided he was not rotting in jail for them. Holder may do the same.


49 posted on 07/07/2011 11:00:02 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“If Eric goes down, will he cut a deal to take down Ubama instead?”

Personally don’t think so as these people (Holder at that echelon) are chosen by their leaders with specific understandings of how they will operate, and what they will do if caught. This is a war, a psycho war if you will, but still a war with an army intent upon winning.

Socialism on the move.


50 posted on 07/07/2011 11:05:15 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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