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8 Great Places to Retire Abroad(In case Obama is re-elected)
yahoo.com ^ | July 9, 2011 | Donna Fuscaldo

Posted on 07/09/2011 11:11:57 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

Great places to retire can be found outside of Florida and Arizona. In fact, many can be found outside of the U.S. entirely. Safe, attractive and affordable places to retire are scattered across the globe, from Latin America to Asia and even Europe. We've narrowed our list to eight overseas retirement hot spots.

Two factors critical to retirees (and their wallets) shaped our choices: cost of living and health care. To make our picks we consulted several experts on travel, tourism and overseas retirement, including Jennifer Stevens, executive editor of International Living, and Kathleen Peddicord, publisher of LiveandInvestOverseas.com. We also gave added weight to the cost of living, real estate and health care components of International Living's Global Retirement Index of the top 25 countries for retirees.

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TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: baby; boomers; collapse; globalism
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To: albie

What if America becomes a country we no longer recognize? Imagine what it will be like if Obama gets four more years. There will be a point of no return. Then what? Twenty years ago if anyone would have told me we would have men marrying men and women marrying women, I would have said “impossible”. If anyone would have told me The Pledge of Allegiance would cause controvery at city council meetings, I would have said “impossible”. If anyone would have told me we would have giant mosques all around America, I would have said “what’s a mosque”? Okay - kidding on that but I would have said “impossible”. If anyone would have told me our own government would be burning Bibles, I would have said “impossible”. If anyone had told me military chaplains couldn’t pray “in Jesus’ name”, I would have said “impossible”.

So you can see why I am worried about what will become of America in the near future, especially if Obama is re-elected.


51 posted on 07/09/2011 12:36:23 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Forgotten Amendments
I had to go to Chile for work onetime. Got off the plane and it was like 72 degrees with a nice breeze off the ocean. I thought to myself this is Southern California, but without all the people (and taxes).
52 posted on 07/09/2011 12:38:17 PM PDT by McGruff (Why do they fear her so?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m not going anywhere. I love this country. They will have to carry me out.


53 posted on 07/09/2011 12:46:19 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I agree with your “impossible” response. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around being chased off my property. Running, as it were. Your point is well taken however.


54 posted on 07/09/2011 12:51:52 PM PDT by albie
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I hear they have an excellent retirement savings system in place.


55 posted on 07/09/2011 12:54:47 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: ilovesarah2012
What about Mikova, Slovakia where Andy Warhol's family hails from?


56 posted on 07/09/2011 12:58:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Roccus

Ditto for us. We are going to stick around for the dust up.


57 posted on 07/09/2011 12:59:51 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 11Bush
"I will not wring my hands and makes plans to run away like a pitiful little coward."

I heard the Redcoats said much the same thing way back when.

58 posted on 07/09/2011 1:00:11 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Canada is getting more conservative all the time.

I lived there for seven years. Cold eight months of the year in most provinces, expensive, their medical care is rationed, "human rights tribunals" will prosecute you for "wrong thinking" (just ask Mark Steyn,) PC foolishness even worse than the US...that's a start.

59 posted on 07/09/2011 1:00:56 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: albie

I love America. I would not want to live anywhere else, unless America becomes unrecognizable. However, if Obama gets his way, what will be left?


60 posted on 07/09/2011 1:04:14 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Soothesayer9
I heard the Redcoats said much the same thing way back when.

What is that supposed to mean?

61 posted on 07/09/2011 1:05:38 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: Pining_4_TX

Tana Toraja, South Sulawesi.


62 posted on 07/09/2011 1:05:57 PM PDT by punchamullah
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To: ilovesarah2012

If Obama wins a second term then we all need to go to Texas and then fight our way north east and west.


63 posted on 07/09/2011 1:06:09 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

If we make it financially (and I suspect we won’t), I’m going to go back up into the hills of WV and pull the trees in behind me. My garden, my gun and my savings will be all I need.


64 posted on 07/09/2011 1:06:28 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

“About the only drawbacks are the heat (can get up to 125-130) and the occasional typhoon.”

I don’t think the local Chamber of Commerce will give you the tourism marketing position. :D


65 posted on 07/09/2011 1:07:30 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: ilovesarah2012

No discussion from these articles on individual rights or gun rights. I wouldn’t go to any third world or commie country unless I was packin’—I don’t care if it would would cost a penny a month to live there. They’d slit your unarmed throat for that.


66 posted on 07/09/2011 1:07:40 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: texas booster

I think I would like that over Mexico! That sounds scary....


67 posted on 07/09/2011 1:08:39 PM PDT by classified
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To: Roccus

“Just hope I’m still alive when TSHTF so I can take part in this nation’s resurrection.”

I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That oath has no expiration date. Real patriots do not desert their country and hide in some foreign land. The Founding Fathers pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor in defense of this country. And most lost all of those things. There are some things worth fighting and dieing for.


68 posted on 07/09/2011 1:10:46 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I will retire in my native country of United States of America although a small cabin in the British Virgins islands might be nice for three months out of the year.


69 posted on 07/09/2011 1:13:17 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

My husband used to travel to Chile on business. He absolutely loved it.


70 posted on 07/09/2011 1:14:17 PM PDT by Varda
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To: texas booster

In a couple of those countries, Communists already own them.


71 posted on 07/09/2011 1:15:37 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

What about Sicily or Crete? Chania, Crete is a lovely port town and is near a U.S. Navy base. The people are friendly, the weather is gorgeous nine months out of the year and winters are very mild—low 40s or so. The food is awesome, blending Italian and Greek cuisines, but there are plenty of Greek dishes to satisfy any palate. The beaches are beautiful, bringing summer visitors from mainland Europe and Scandinavia. Shopping is economical and there are many bargains on jewelry and leather goods.


72 posted on 07/09/2011 1:16:44 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: cornfedcowboy

Now that sounds like a PLAN!


73 posted on 07/09/2011 1:17:40 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SVTCobra03

So you would be up for a civil war?


74 posted on 07/09/2011 1:20:02 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SVTCobra03

I could move to most any country I cared to. I have the time, the resources, and the ability. What I don’t have is the guts.

I don’t have the guts to shave every morning and look at myself in the mirror knowing I ran away from the very country that gave me the freedom to achieve what my heart desired.

I don’t have the guts to forget my father, my uncles, my grandfathers, etc. I would have to forget them, never again think of them. I would have to forget them or forever feel the shame of running when they stood, fraught, and in some cases died while I ran away to seek some economic gain or safety.

I don’t have the guts to stand before God and answer the charge of breaking my sacred oath to protect and defend this nation and instead how I chose to run away.

I guess I am too much of a coward to run. Good thing we have all these brave patriots that can’t wait to make their travel arrangements.


75 posted on 07/09/2011 1:27:40 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: texas booster
1. Merida, Mexico

Good god, Merida?? Talk about congestion. Look at it in Google Earth. Why not Cancun? Its not that far away from Merida.

76 posted on 07/09/2011 1:28:28 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: CitizenM

I took a side trip to Vancover from Seattle a few years back. Honestly, was not that impressed. Especially when the clerk at the hotel front desk read me the riot act about how they weren’t responsible for my car. Apparently, guest cars were routinely broken into, vandalized or stolen. It was nice by the coast, but the rest of it looked like any other big [North American] city.


77 posted on 07/09/2011 1:28:41 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Alberta.

To those of you who hold to the line “this is my country” and denigrate those who have left or will leave, just remember our ancestors left their country. Do you hold them in contempt?

Our country was founded on ideas. The most radical of which was that the governments powers were to be limited. Its powers were enumerated and very limited so that, except for a very short list of governmental powers, we were to be a free people. That is no longer the case. My “country” is were people hold to those ideals and anyone who holds to those ideals is my countryman regardless of geography.

Our country, as freedom consuming as our government has become, may still be the best for freedom. That is not a compliment to the USA but a sad comment on the state of freedom across the globe.


78 posted on 07/09/2011 1:29:53 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: ilovesarah2012
So you would be up for a civil war?

We may all have to be. If one starts, it will be the left that fires the first shot. My guess is at some point a leftist president would move against Texas as the state pushes back like they are against abominations like the TSA.

79 posted on 07/09/2011 1:31:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Would be interesting to see if states really try to secede.


80 posted on 07/09/2011 1:34:42 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: 11Bush

I agree with your sentiment; however, the thinking is that if Obama is reelected, will this really still be the country you fought/bled for, and that we’ve all always loved?

If a majority of our fellow Americans vote to keep him in the White House, I’m not so sure it’d be *my* country any more. And, without his having to consider reelection (unless he signs an Executive Order dismissing the 22nd Amendment)the damage he’s done in his first term will appear as nothing. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Talk of a second civil war, battles in the streets, etc. is exactly that: talk. Won’t happen. Too many of us would be perfectly content in Barry’s Utopia.


81 posted on 07/09/2011 1:45:03 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands now deserves the love and thanks of men and woman. Tyranny like hell is not easily conquered yet we have this consolation with us, the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."

Thomas Paine

I don't care if I am the only one left. I will not retreat, I will not run, I will not surrender. I may die at their hand, I may have everything taken from me, but I stay here.

82 posted on 07/09/2011 1:58:41 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: ilovesarah2012
Would be interesting to see if states really try to secede.

Texas would be my guess.

83 posted on 07/09/2011 1:58:46 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
"Americans are a transient people and we do what needs to be done to protect our family’s future. I don’t begrudge people who hold 11’s opinion but I will do what it takes to protect my family. If Obama’s ideas were coming a foreign power, it would be easy to identify the cancer and get rid of it. They aren’t. We’ll see in 2012 if the American people vote for the kind of discipline required to cut our federal budget by 40%. I don’t think they were given that choice in 2010 and don’t think they will be in 2012. Until then, we work for the right candidates. If our debt to GDP ratio goes above 90% then it’s over and time to pick up and go and that’s no different than any one of our ancestors did."

If Obama wins in 2012, we haven't seen anything yet. Obama already shows contempt for the law. In a second term, he will be the law. We will have to decide to go(If we can and are allowed to), submit(if not one of his favored classes), or fight(regardless of what we thought of the goodness of America).

84 posted on 07/09/2011 2:07:51 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Michael.SF.

“If you can tolerate the climate, Alberta is probably the most conservative Provence in the country.”

“Think I’ll go out to Alberta, weather’s good there in the fall...”


85 posted on 07/09/2011 2:10:54 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: ilovesarah2012

This will be another country if Precedent Erkel Mugabe is reelected....


86 posted on 07/09/2011 2:22:51 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Yes it will and not one I will want to live in.


87 posted on 07/09/2011 2:24:28 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
You nailed it, Honduras and Belize, the rest or thug or quasi socialist states with more problems than us....

When Obamacare passed I was on a screed to move to Australia. I am not looking so flipin' crazy now....

88 posted on 07/09/2011 2:29:48 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: ilovesarah2012

The America I knew in the 1950’s is gone. Both my parents and Grand parents lived. In 5 years, these times will look good.


89 posted on 07/09/2011 3:02:21 PM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Agree and I want to take a chance to opine.

One of the most important things we lost with the ratification of the Constitution was the ability to move from one state to another, from one set of laws to another, and yet still live in America. Patric Henry hit on this during the ratification convention in Virginia.

We may get lucky in the USSC with Obamacare. I hope so. However we will not get lucky dealing with our debt. Writing a debt now to be paid by voters who can’t vote today (those under eighteen) truly is taxation without representation. It’s perfectly legal and Americans who disagree (most of those on FR) can’t get away from the debt without leaving the country or, some say, overturning the government. Even if we were to do the latter, we would still have the debt hanging over us.

As posted before, if this was an physical attack by a foreign power, we could fight it. Instead it’s an non-violent attack by a majority of people today on those who aren’t even voting yet. We’ll see which side wins in 2012.


90 posted on 07/09/2011 3:03:36 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: 11Bush

Are you fighting now? It’s happening right now. Where’s the point when you will start?


91 posted on 07/09/2011 3:05:57 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

I’ve been looking at getting some land here in KY. I’ve found several spots that are well off the beaten path where a person can go and survive WTSHTF.


92 posted on 07/09/2011 3:13:02 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: ilovesarah2012

My husband is Filipino by birth, so we retired to the Philippines.

Most Americans wouldn’t be happy in our rural town, but there are nice places in Manila and Baguio that cater to retirees, both American and Asian (Japanese and Korean) who live here part time or full time.


93 posted on 07/09/2011 3:14:19 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: montanajoe
Living in the Philippines is a secret worth sharing. Some very good reasons to go there:

1. English widely spoken.

2. The Filipino people are kind and generous people who generally like Americans.

3. The climate is fabulous; always warm either wet or dry.

4. There are 9,000 islands to disappear among and several large cities.

5. San Miguel Beer.

6. Filipinas'.

That is why I repeatedly say Mabuhay! and Mabuti pakikisama pare co. Live well and oh yeah, there are many Christians there.

94 posted on 07/09/2011 3:14:57 PM PDT by Broker (Mabuhay!)
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To: Broker

Sounds good. How is the medical care?


95 posted on 07/09/2011 3:22:27 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: familyop

actually, there are some very nice places in South Africa...as long as it’s a gated community.

As for Iraq, wait a few years and move to Kurdistan...


96 posted on 07/09/2011 3:26:33 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

I am fighting with all available legal means, have my entire adult life. When that becomes ‘unavailable’ I will fight with whatever means are available.

If you are somehow referring to sedition then no, I am not fighting. How about you?


97 posted on 07/09/2011 4:09:56 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: 11Bush

Same here except I don’t think one can fight a geometrically growing debt. That’s three to six years away.


98 posted on 07/09/2011 4:50:36 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is a stupid list

Chiang Mai, Thailand

The LOVE foreigners and our money and are the mose decent and respectful and cultured people I ever met


99 posted on 07/09/2011 4:57:04 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: ilovesarah2012

Vysoke Tatry in Slovakia.


100 posted on 07/09/2011 4:59:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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