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Does Michele Bachmann 'Walk the Talk?'
C4P ^ | Posted on July 09 2011 - 11:17 PM | Posted by: Stacy Drake

Posted on 07/10/2011 6:09:52 AM PDT by curth

It’s common these days to hear media talking heads refer to Michele Bachmann as the “Tea Party favorite” in the upcoming 2012 GOP primary race. Unlike Governor Palin who has always stated that the Tea Party doesn’t need one specific leader, Bachmann has tried to cast herself into such a role. She created a “Tea Party Caucus” in congress and gave the “Tea Party response” following Obama’s State of the Union Address last January.

The Tea Party is comprised mainly of independent-minded small government activists who are sick and tired of the way Washington is operating. These are people who are fed up with DC insiders cutting deals with officials at the expense of this country’s future. A bloated, centralized system of government with too many payouts has spawned the biggest grassroots movement in recent history. A person who professes to speak for such a group of patriots at the highest level had better “walk the talk.”

While Bachmann may talk a good game, her actions are leaving many with questions that she has yet to adequately answer. Steve Bannon discussed one of these questions during a recent interview with PV Radio that Ian posted on Friday, concerning her family receiving large sums in Medicaid payments for their clinics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciyQ2S8yQCU&feature=player_embedded

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“And I think quite frankly, she’s got to learn to answer questions. Like Chris Wallace asked a very straightforward question, she had every opportunity to explain this. And she gave quite frankly, an unacceptable answer. The answer was very misleading. And that’s just not going to wash, particularly if you want to hold the banner of the Tea Party, you’ve got to almost be a purist. That means, if you believe in limited government, then you’ve really got to believe in limited government. You can’t talk about limited government and take the benefits from the large state.“

Despite being an unlicensed “therapist” practicing a controversial form of counseling, Marcus Bachmann received more than $137,000 in Medicaid payments for his clinics in Minnesota. According to Michael Isikoff:

Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the “welfare rolls.”

The amount is a much higher than the previously reported sum of $24,000 that she answered for during that interview with Chris Wallace. Isikoff writes:

The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request.

The $161,000 in payments from the Minnesota Department of Human Services to her husband’s clinic appear to contradict some of Michelle Bachmann’s public accounts this week when she was first asked about the extent to which her family has benefited from government aid. Contacted this afternoon, Alice Stewart, a spokeswoman for Bachmann, said the congresswoman was doing campaign events and was not immediately available for comment.

Questions about the Bachmann family’s receipt of government funds arose this week after a Los Angeles Times story reported that a family farm in which Michelle Bachmann is a partner had received nearly $260,000 in federal farm subsidies.

When asked by anchor Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday” about the story’s assertion that her husband’s counseling clinic had also gotten federal and state funds, Bachmann replied that it was “one-time training money that came from the federal government. And it certainly didn’t help our clinic.”

At another point, she said, “My husband and I did not get the money,” adding that it was “mental health training money that went to the employees.”

But state records show that Bachmann & Associates has been collecting payments under the Minnesota’s Medicaid program every year for the past six years. Karen Smigielski, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Human Services, said the state’s Medicaid program is funded “about 50-50″ with federal and state monies. The funds to Bachmann & Associates are for the treatment of low-income mentally ill patients and are based on a “fee for service” basis, meaning the clinic was reimbursed by Medicaid for the services it provided.

By stating that the payments were a “one-time” payment, Michele Bachmann was dishonest with the audience. She was clearly trying to downplay the issue, perhaps knowing that it hurts her credibility with that large group of grassroots conservatives across the country that she seeks support from.

Medicaid payments to her husbands business isn’t the only issue the congresswoman is going to face tough questions about. Michele Bachmann waves the Gadsden flag and calls herself an “outsider,” yet she hired many DC “insiders” to run her campaign. She came under some heat for hiring Ed Rollins, but most of those criticisms died down when her people had stated that Bachmann forced Rollins to apologize to Palin’s staff. I never saw any press accounts one way or the other whether Rollins actually apologized, or if those where just more empty words from Team Bachmann. Perhaps someone in the press will look into that one day.

Steve Bannon was right when he spoke about holding the banner of the Tea Party. The people within the movement won’t allow politicians to use their cause to simply advance themselves. They are aware and educated activists who are not easily fooled. When an elected official stands with them and speaks their language, they had better back it up with their actions.


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1 posted on 07/10/2011 6:09:54 AM PDT by curth
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To: curth

I don’t know if it’s just my imagination, but Perry and Bachmann give off the same type of ‘me-me-me’ scent.


2 posted on 07/10/2011 6:22:16 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: All

This post is EXACTLY what the Lamestream Media has been trying to develop out of Palin’s supporters.


3 posted on 07/10/2011 6:23:32 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: harpu

Sounds like divide and conquer tactics. I prefer Sarah personally.


4 posted on 07/10/2011 6:29:38 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: curth
A person who professes to speak for such a group of patriots at the highest level had better “walk the talk.”

Uh, that's "walk the walk."  Get your clichés correct if you want us to read the rest of your drivel.

 

5 posted on 07/10/2011 6:30:05 AM PDT by MNnice (Showing fresh signs of liberalitis, the strain of the orbital muscles due to excessive eye rolling)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Its not your imagination when someone else smells the same thing, and I am with you.

Me,me,me.

Too much of a hurry and too eager to say anything for support.


6 posted on 07/10/2011 6:30:13 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (2012, NO MORE LIES!)
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To: curth

“Walk the talk”

I hate that abomination of a phrase. It’s “talk the talk, or walk the walk.” Most people born before 1980 know that.


7 posted on 07/10/2011 6:35:16 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Al B.; onyx; Brices Crossroads; sarah fan UK

C4P on Bachmann. The gloves are coming off.


8 posted on 07/10/2011 6:36:36 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: harpu

No, MB has done it to herself with whatever deal she cut with the GOP-E back in the winter.


9 posted on 07/10/2011 6:38:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

I prefer Bachmann but I’m certainly not going to sink to the level of the left to attack Palin. This sort of thing only helps the left.


10 posted on 07/10/2011 6:40:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: harpu
There are questions regarding Bachmann including her background as a legislator, as a tax collector for the IRS and her involvement in receiving Government funding. I would prefer to see her respond now versus later.

Unlike Democrats, Republican candidates cannot avoid vetting. Otherwise, we end up with October surprises.

11 posted on 07/10/2011 6:41:15 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: cripplecreek

I think the important thing here is an obvious attempt to divide the Tea Party with an election Coming up. That’s what I see overall.


12 posted on 07/10/2011 6:53:19 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: cripplecreek
I’m certainly not going to sink to the level of the left to attack Palin. This sort of thing only helps the left.

Exactly.

13 posted on 07/10/2011 6:54:59 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: curth
So “Conservatives for Palin” has now stooped to channeling the Politico and writing hit pieces on conservatives? I've said for years that Palin's biggest negative is some of the loons that support her.
14 posted on 07/10/2011 6:58:52 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; onyx; Brices Crossroads; sarah fan UK
Here's a clickable link to the clip from the Stephen Bannon interview that was referenced in the above article. He tried to be positive about his support for Bachmann, but he clearly is deeply concerned about the doubletalk from her on the gov't payments to her husband's business. It's about a 4-min. audio clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciyQ2S8yQCU&feature=player_embedded

15 posted on 07/10/2011 7:03:53 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: He Rides A White Horse

If we want to eliminate anyone, we need to work on pushing Romney, Gingrich, and Huntsman out first.

I use a NASCAR example. Palin, Bachman, and Cain need to be drafting partners to stay in the front. We can worry about who crosses the finish line first in the final lap.


16 posted on 07/10/2011 7:08:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Pan_Yan

This is called “vetting”, which is what the media USE to do. You Bachman supporters are a bunch of thin skinned pansies who cry everytime the obvious is pointed out about your weak candidate. Grow a pair and man up or get out of the game. This is SERIOUS for this country now and we MUST get it right or America is over. If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.


17 posted on 07/10/2011 7:10:31 AM PDT by allsouthern
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To: allsouthern
You Bachman supporters ...

Careful, your ignorance is showing.

18 posted on 07/10/2011 7:12:39 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Rational Thought

Yes, let her reply. I have no idea what the payments are for or if even true.


19 posted on 07/10/2011 7:15:52 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Eye of Unk

I saw Bachmann back in 2010go on TV back for an interview (Hannity show or something) where she started ‘pleading’ and seeming desperate for money for her Congressional district campaign, and I just got this weird feeling that it seemed rather tacky. You do this with commercials, and at fundraisers, etc.., but it seemed like it was one of those ‘telethon’ type of pleadings. I don’t know, it just didnt sit right with me.


20 posted on 07/10/2011 7:16:46 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: curth
“It’s common these days to hear media talking heads refer to Michele Bachmann as the “Tea Party favorite” in the upcoming 2012 GOP primary race. Unlike Governor Palin who has always stated that the Tea Party doesn’t need one specific leader, Bachmann has tried to cast herself into such a role.”

There's a lot of truth in that statement.

21 posted on 07/10/2011 7:18:45 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: cripplecreek
If we want to eliminate anyone, we need to work on pushing Romney, Gingrich, and Huntsman out first.

No doubt. I'm with you all the way.

I use a NASCAR example. Palin, Bachman, and Cain need to be drafting partners to stay in the front. We can worry about who crosses the finish line first in the final lap.

Bear in mind that I don't dislike Bachman. You have nailed down the situation perfectly.

This is like a World War I artillery barrage that precedes an assault. Just more leftist scheming. Subliminally picking our candidates for us.

22 posted on 07/10/2011 7:19:49 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: Pan_Yan

The ignorance here is from the individual who states that Palin supporters are loons simply because the obvious is pointed out about Bachman, even if you are NOT a Bachman supporter. Would you care to mention who you prefer as a candidate or are you scared it will REALLY highlight the ignorant one among us?


23 posted on 07/10/2011 7:23:00 AM PDT by allsouthern
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To: cripplecreek
Palin, Bachman, and Cain need to be drafting partners to stay in the front.

Bachmann has already tried to run Sarah off the track, and so that won't be happening anytime soon.

24 posted on 07/10/2011 7:23:00 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: cripplecreek
I should have read the link. The artillery barrage comes later, trust me.

This type of infighting is bad.

25 posted on 07/10/2011 7:24:12 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: The Bronze Titan
I saw Bachmann back in 2010go on TV back for an interview (Hannity show or something) where she started ‘pleading’ and seeming desperate for money for her Congressional district campaign, and I just got this weird feeling that it seemed rather tacky.

She does it on Mark Levin's Show as well.

26 posted on 07/10/2011 7:28:11 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m still in my “coffee and Captain Crunch” mode.


27 posted on 07/10/2011 7:28:45 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: Windflier
Aristotle’s followers are said to have discussed philosophy while walking about with him—hence their name: “peripatetics.” I suppose they could have been said to “walk the talk.”
For the rest of us, the saying is “if you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk”—a modern version of old sayings like “actions speak louder than words” and “practice what you preach.” Another early form of the expression was “walk it like you talk it.”
Many people now condense this to “walk the talk,” which makes a sort of sense (act on your speech), but strikes those who are more familiar with the original form as confused.

28 posted on 07/10/2011 7:31:48 AM PDT by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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To: Pan_Yan

I think you’re not seeing the point.

If we choose to ignore any issues a candidate may or may not have with their past (and all candidates have issues with their past) in order to promote harmony amongst all the Republican candidates, we will end up with a non vetted candidate whom the Democrats and their media will have a field day with come 2012.

Additionally, if there are no contrasts or criticisms between the candidates this season (as some seem to believe is the appropriate path), then we might as well hold our coronation for Gov. Romney right now.


29 posted on 07/10/2011 7:32:11 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: curth

As a Palin supporter, (please run!) I must say it does no good to try to make MB appear smaller. The GOP WILL not nominate a sitting Rep; they SHOULD not nominate any present or former Senator. Does Bachman give the taxpayer his money’s worth? If not, there’s a scandal. It’s possible Todd and Sarah have taken a gubmint dime at some point, it doesn’t make them bad people.


30 posted on 07/10/2011 7:32:19 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: curth

As a Palin supporter, (please run!) I must say it does no good to try to make MB appear smaller. The GOP WILL not nominate a sitting Rep; they SHOULD not nominate any present or former Senator. Does Bachman give the taxpayer his money’s worth? If not, there’s a scandal. It’s possible Todd and Sarah have taken a gubmint dime at some point, it doesn’t make them bad people.


31 posted on 07/10/2011 7:32:38 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: curth

As a Palin supporter, (please run!) I must say it does no good to try to make MB appear smaller. The GOP WILL not nominate a sitting Rep; they SHOULD not nominate any present or former Senator. Does Bachman give the taxpayer his money’s worth? If not, there’s a scandal. It’s possible Todd and Sarah have taken a gubmint dime at some point, it doesn’t make them bad people.


32 posted on 07/10/2011 7:32:38 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: The Bronze Titan

“I don’t know if it’s just my imagination, but Perry and Bachmann give off the same type of ‘me-me-me’ scent”

Its just your imagination.


33 posted on 07/10/2011 7:33:58 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
This type of infighting is bad.

Yep, and it's all Bachmann's fault. She cut some sort of a deal with the GOP-E back in December to help take down Sarah. In January, members of her staff suddenly showed up in Iowa and South Carolina and started bad mouthing Sarah to the state and local GOP leaders. Next thing you know she hired Ed Rollins, who promptly plunged a dagger in Sarah's back only 24 hours after taking the job as MB's campaign manager.

MB could have taken the high-road and tag-teamed with Sarah to defeat the corrupt GOP good ol' boys club in DC and Obama, but instead she has proven herself to be a graceless opportunist who made a deal with some devils who will yank the rug from out under her as soon as her job of stopping Sarah is done.

34 posted on 07/10/2011 7:36:24 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
MB could have taken the high-road and tag-teamed with Sarah to defeat the corrupt GOP good ol' boys club in DC and Obama, but instead she has proven herself to be a graceless opportunist who made a deal with some devils who will yank the rug from out under her as soon as her job of stopping Sarah is done.

Not the Tea Party I remember. Starting to act like politicians.

35 posted on 07/10/2011 7:42:03 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: bwc2221
There is something about her that just doesn't ring true. I'm afraid there is something in her backgroud that might be embarrassing...not illegal, but embarrassing. I would like to know more about all the foster kids ...that she claims she "raised."

IMO when people have careers and 5 kids of their own, they are short-changing theirs by bringing in a bunch of other kids.

Comparing the two, I think Sarah is sharper.

36 posted on 07/10/2011 7:45:49 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar
I would like to know more about all the foster kids

Welcome to the left. It only cost you your soul.
37 posted on 07/10/2011 7:56:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: curth

I’m not taking sides yet but I like to use a score card to learn if the speaker has any ulterior motives: Who is Steve Bannon?

http://www.breitbart.tv/interview-steve-bannon-the-man-who-brought-sarah-palins-story-to-the-screen/


38 posted on 07/10/2011 8:01:15 AM PDT by Enough is ENOUGH (Fabian Globalism: Environmentalism halts production, forces population into dense controllable areas)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Not the Tea Party I remember. Starting to act like politicians.

The Tea Party you "remember" really never was the idealized construct any of us desire it to be. Those who lead and seek to speak as "The Voice of the Tea Party" are cut from the same cloth as those doing the same in any other political party/movement in history. They are the same flawed human beings each of us encounter in our daily activities.

39 posted on 07/10/2011 8:05:13 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Where was your self righteousness when Palin had Soros people on her campaign? Where was it when she was siding with Romneyites to back RINOs all around the country?

If you don’t know about these things, maybe its because adults looked at them and decided that they were basic politics and let them slide. She backed a RINO with a campaign full of Romney staffers in my district. I didn’t throw a tantrum about it, I disagreed and voted for the conservative.

Instead you act like a 5 year old and cling to a pretty minor comment from Ed Rollins some two months ago and behave as if he had said Trig was Bristol’s child. All he said was that she wasn’t a serious candidate when the reality is that she isn’t a candidate at all. That’s not an attack, its a simple fact until she decides to get in the race.


40 posted on 07/10/2011 8:07:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek
Are you serious? Wanting more info about a POTUS candidate makes me "left?" By throwing accusations my way, I assume you are afraid of something in MB's background as well.

I want it all out there in the primaries...I'm tired of October surprises ...that always hurt the Repub.

I don't have a favorite candidate and I want all the info I can get before I have to pick one. If you have a problem with that, it's not my problem!

41 posted on 07/10/2011 8:15:16 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

You want info on her kids. How pathetic is that?


42 posted on 07/10/2011 8:23:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: T-Bird45
The Tea Party you "remember" really never was the idealized construct any of us desire it to be. Those who lead and seek to speak as "The Voice of the Tea Party" are cut from the same cloth as those doing the same in any other political party/movement in history. They are the same flawed human beings each of us encounter in our daily activities.

I'm thinking of the rally in Philadelphia a couple of years ago. Had that breath-of-fresh air quality.

You are quite correct of course. I was caught up in the idea of the grassroots folks being the voice of the party, and that candidates should be listeners, not talkers as it were.

Yes, humans are flawed. Sometimes we conservatives vet our candidates a bit harshly. The left would push a kiddie molester as a candidate, and we expect ours to be perfect. Beating up our candidates over trivial things, while the left institutes 'radio silence' on candidates whom they know are greatly flawed.

The left essentially owns the First Amendment. We need to take it back.

This country is so polarized that I think that there is going to be a showdown. Call it irreconcilable differences. The left controls all things needed to keep our Constitutional Republic viable. Of course, they don't want that form of government. Big trouble coming.

43 posted on 07/10/2011 8:23:09 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: cripplecreek
Where was your self righteousness when Palin had Soros people on her campaign?

That's a bloody lie, and you know it.

44 posted on 07/10/2011 8:42:07 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
I was caught up in the idea of the grassroots folks being the voice of the party, and that candidates should be listeners, not talkers as it were.

I agree with your response without reservation but would offer one comment about the excerpt above. If a candidate fully followed the "listener" mode, we would quickly begin to question the candidate's Leadership quotient or ability to translate philosophy/principles into concrete proposals.

BTW, I especially agree with your third paragraph.

45 posted on 07/10/2011 8:42:55 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: cripplecreek
You want info on her kids. How pathetic is that?

No! Where did you get that?

I want more info on her involvement with the foster kids she claims she "raised." Some have said she used them as baby-sitters for her own kids.

We know foster homes are temporary...why does she claim to have "raised" 23 (or whatever) foster kids? Did she adopt any or did they come and go? There could be a real embarrassment with some of them...I would like it all out there now! Did she and her husband get paid a lot of $$$ as foster parents?

She has raised questions about finances already...something about her husband's or FIL's farm subsities.

46 posted on 07/10/2011 8:43:35 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: curth

Surprise, surprise, a hit piece on Michele Bachmann from a pro-Palin website. Obviously C4P must be afraid of Bachmann if they’re attacking her.


47 posted on 07/10/2011 8:43:35 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: Pan_Yan

And how sad that they would go after the most conservative candidate who has announced so far. What are you afraid of C4P?


48 posted on 07/10/2011 8:46:09 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I think you need to put down the bong. It’s having a negative affect on your brain. ;-)


49 posted on 07/10/2011 8:47:57 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Randy Scheunemann

Maybe you shouldn’t run your mouth while willfully ignorant.

Like I said, I was aware of it but was adult enough to see it as part of the politics in the country so it wasn’t a big deal. The only reason I mention it now is to show your double standards.


50 posted on 07/10/2011 8:48:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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