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Teenager loses both parents and five siblings in tragic Alabama plane crash
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | July 11, 2011

Posted on 07/11/2011 8:32:25 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A family of seven on board a small plane were killed when it crashed in Alabama after an engine failed - leaving behind a 16-year-old daughter.

A couple and their five young children were returning to Florida from a family reunion in St. Louis, Missouri, on Saturday night when the crash happened, authorities said.

Fred and Terresa Teutenberg died, but her oldest child, Ashlei Bruewer, 16, was not on the plane.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: alabama; aviation; family; planecrash; planes
Sickening.
1 posted on 07/11/2011 8:32:28 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sad. RIP.


2 posted on 07/11/2011 8:33:49 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Prayers up for all.


3 posted on 07/11/2011 8:34:48 AM PDT by PDGearhead (Obama's lack of citizenship)
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To: ConservativeStatement

My God. That poor girl. Pray for her.


4 posted on 07/11/2011 8:38:44 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Good folk are continually being killed in small plane crashes; but people keep flying in these death traps, thinking “it’s not gonna be me who dies.”


5 posted on 07/11/2011 8:39:10 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Prayers up for Ashlei.


6 posted on 07/11/2011 8:40:58 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Socon-Econ

Errrr... More folks die in their autos in one day than in a plane in a year.


7 posted on 07/11/2011 8:44:07 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: Socon-Econ

My husband had always wanted to fly so a few years ago he took lessons got his license and was instrument rated. I went up with him one time and said no more. He flew alone for a year or so and then sold his plane and quit, he said it wasn’t any fun if I didn’t take trips with him.


8 posted on 07/11/2011 8:44:48 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: rlmorel

Nice looking family, really sad.

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/sections/article/gallery/?pic=1&id=41684


9 posted on 07/11/2011 8:44:59 AM PDT by enraged
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To: enraged
Not a good idea to have almost the whole family on one plane, ya never know.
10 posted on 07/11/2011 8:48:36 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: enraged

That poor family and that poor girl. At times like this, it’s tempting to say “we have to do something”, such as, ban small children or whole families from flying in small aircraft, but families exactly like that took equal or far greater risks just being pioneers in this land at one point.


11 posted on 07/11/2011 8:51:14 AM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: Socon-Econ

Indeed. At the end of this month Oshkosh will host the annual EAA fly in. The question always is how many pilots and their friends will be killed traveling to or from this air show? But, they keep coming.

My husband always says you should be wary about any hobby that has both the words Experimental and Aircraft in its title. LOL


12 posted on 07/11/2011 8:53:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ConservativeStatement

Heartbreaking. RIP and they are now with the Lord.


13 posted on 07/11/2011 8:57:57 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Ciexyz
"Not a good idea to have almost the whole family on one plane, ya never know."

Yep...probably a worse idea to have the whole family in a car. ya never know.

14 posted on 07/11/2011 8:59:13 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Ditter
My husband had always wanted to fly so a few years ago he took lessons got his license and was instrument rated. I went up with him one time and said no more. He flew alone for a year or so and then sold his plane and quit, he said it wasn’t any fun if I didn’t take trips with him.

You still drive together in a car though, right?

15 posted on 07/11/2011 9:00:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: reaganaut
It's esp. sad when a whole family gets wiped out. My area had a plane crash in 1994 (outside Pittsburgh, Hopewell Township) where an entire local family incl. seven or eight kids died. Because of that, many people I know said they split up the family and take separate planes.

In this case, the 16 yr old girl was the wife's daughter by a previous relationship or marriage. The five kids who died were the joint progeny of both this father and mother, so all the father's line was wiped out by one crash.

16 posted on 07/11/2011 9:07:15 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: ConservativeStatement
I went to a high school graduation in Colorado about 15 years ago when a fellow graduated who had lost his entire family and his best friend in a plane crash. They were all supposed to go on a skiing trip into the mountains but he fell ill and couldn't go so they left without him.

Those at the graduation gave him a standing ovation when he came up to accept his diploma. I understand another family took the boy in so he could still go to the same school.

Still, what a hard, hard thing to have to experience and imagine the guilt he carries with him unnecessarily.

17 posted on 07/11/2011 9:11:01 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: lilypad
More folks die in their autos in one day than in a plane in a year.
Yes, but a lot more people drive cars than fly small planes. To make a more accurate comparison, one would have to take some kind of average, like, deaths per mile, or deaths per hour of travel.
18 posted on 07/11/2011 9:15:50 AM PDT by cartan
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To: enraged

It’s a shame they weren’t in that Cirrus SR22, because then they would have at least had the BRS to fall back on. Of course, there are not enough seats on the Cirrus for such a large family. I don’t know if there are any general aviation parachute equipped six-passenger aircraft.


19 posted on 07/11/2011 9:16:05 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you can read this / (To paraphrase on old line) / Thank a TAXPAYER!.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Oh Dear God! This is awful.


20 posted on 07/11/2011 9:21:49 AM PDT by cblue55 (Envisioning when all that is left is the right.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Oh Dear God! This is awful.


21 posted on 07/11/2011 9:22:01 AM PDT by cblue55 (Envisioning when all that is left is the right.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The plane looks to be a Cirrus design. I believe they can be equipped with a ballistic parachute. Unfortunately, they function within certain parameters and if the aircraft is out of the ‘envelope’ they are merely useless ballast. Brutal news.


22 posted on 07/11/2011 9:23:19 AM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Tell me the pilot is not a doctor or dentist.


23 posted on 07/11/2011 9:25:06 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Haiku Guy

I read that a test pilot said, “the Piper Cub is the safest of all planes,,, It can just BARELY kill you”.


24 posted on 07/11/2011 9:29:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: ConservativeStatement

They were here (St. Louis) visiting family and this man’s father is a well known business man here in St. Louis. I feel badly for him also losing his son, DIL and all those grandbabies.


25 posted on 07/11/2011 9:42:46 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Yes we drive together and fly commercial occasionally. This bring up my 2 main rules of life. Rule #1 Never give up the keys to the vehicle. In other words I ALWAYS drive. :D
26 posted on 07/11/2011 9:53:26 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter
I went up with him one time and said no more.
My brother-in-law took up flying and called me a coward because I wouldn't fly with him.
Six months after he started, an engine malfunction forced him to land in a corn field. He never flew again.
27 posted on 07/11/2011 9:58:13 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: lilypad

Here’s the deal.. .when I have a “engine failure” in my car. . .I just pull over and call for a tow. In a plane. . it’s “Mayday. . Mayday.” Flying is much more risky because the consequences resulting from mechanical failures. . .Murphy rules the air. Very few fender benders in the air.


28 posted on 07/11/2011 10:08:21 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: oh8eleven

LOL! My brother in law took up flying and he had to land on a highway. I don’t think he even flies commercial anymore.


29 posted on 07/11/2011 10:19:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: ConservativeStatement

Wow. What a horrible tragedy. So sad for the young woman left behind. I will pray for her to be strong and one day take comfort in the memories and life she shared with her family. Amen. :(


30 posted on 07/11/2011 10:19:26 AM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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To: Ciexyz
My area had a plane crash in 1994 (outside Pittsburgh, Hopewell Township) where an entire local family incl. seven or eight kids died.

I was in Beaver County that day at my in-laws. I'll never forget it. And the backstory on how that particular family wound up on Flight #427 is one of those "holy cow" moments involving such trivia as soccer practice, a TV show taping and available seating on the plane. Just a gut wrenching story even to this day.

31 posted on 07/11/2011 10:33:22 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Haiku Guy
It’s a shame they weren’t in that Cirrus SR22, because then they would have at least had the BRS to fall back on.

Depends. Here in Columbus two weeks ago, a doctor and his wife were killed in a Cirrus. The parachute system couldn't help them at low altitude where the trouble appears to have occurred.

32 posted on 07/11/2011 10:37:00 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DesertRhino
Twas my first thought until I learned that the a/c was a single engine powered (guessing by the looks) Cirrus. Stall speed of 60 knots with full flaps is about 68 mph. If the pilot lost an engine prior to landing, and it seems that he did, then the airspeed was likely higher, therefore the impact speed was likely higher too. Going into trees at 68 mph or more likely, a much higher speed, would not/did not bode well.

A Cub's stall speed is about 33 knots or 38 mph dirty. That's just about half the speed of the Cirrus. Injuries likely? Yes. But, a chance to live another day is possible depending on the many variables acting upon the a/c at impact.

The Cirrus pilot would have had to put the nose down if he lost an engine in order to maintain airspeed. The prospect of eventually immediately flying into trees as one tries to maintain control is an awful option in 'trying' to keep a bird flying.

Out of air, out of time, out of envelope.

33 posted on 07/11/2011 12:44:13 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: freepersup

Self correction: missed the image of the 421 and drew the wrong conclusion as to the actual a/c involved.


34 posted on 07/11/2011 12:47:14 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: freepersup

Self correction: a/c was a 421, not a Cirrus as stated.


35 posted on 07/11/2011 12:48:55 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: Socon-Econ

I am a General Avaition pilot with over 12,000 hours, Multi engine, instrument rated, CFII, Commercial, 1200 hrs turbine time. You are 2200 times more likely to be killed in a car than a small plane. Now there are stupid people that shouldn’t be flying, BUT (as in gun control) It ain’t the instrument that is bad, it is the user.


36 posted on 07/11/2011 1:32:37 PM PDT by tx rancher
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To: freepersup

It was a 1978 Cessna 421C according to the article.

Lost the right engine at cruise, and crashed into a stand of trees on approach to land.

The pics at the URL are just heart breaking.


37 posted on 07/11/2011 2:15:50 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: freepersup

Engine out on a twin. Enough power left to get to the scene of the crash.


38 posted on 07/11/2011 4:17:58 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Sequoyah101

>>> Engine out on a twin. Enough power left to get to the scene of the crash. <<< Cannot think of a more true axiom.


39 posted on 07/11/2011 9:33:48 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: hattend

>>> Lost the right engine at cruise, and crashed into a stand of trees on approach to land. <<<

There’s been many a pilot killed trying to make it to the airfield, instead of landing in a field.


40 posted on 07/11/2011 9:38:43 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: Socon-Econ

“but people keep flying in these death traps”

What an ignorant statement.

Private pilots fly many hundreds of thousands of hours in the U.S. every year with very few fatalities.

You are at greater risk in a car.


41 posted on 07/11/2011 9:41:27 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: tx rancher

Is this going to be another ‘doctor killer’ story?

It will be interesting to see how many hours of twin time the deceased had, and perhaps more telling how many hours of (an) engine out training he had.

Murphy never sleeps.


42 posted on 07/11/2011 9:51:12 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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