Skip to comments.Urban Survival Skills To Keep Your Ass Alive
Posted on 07/14/2011 9:06:55 PM PDT by Kartographer
Even if you are fortunate enough to have a retreat out in the country getting to your safe haven maybe impossible during upheaval. Roads blocked by wrecked and fuelless vehicles will stop most bugouters in their tracks. Maybe you were born lucky and can make it out safely before the balloon bursts, then what? People in rural areas, will start shooting if threatened by mobs of refugees fleeing the city. Dont expect to be welcomed with arms outstretched. Most country folks dont trust outsiders; you will likely be greeted with a load of buckshot and not the cup of fresh coffee and meaningful conversation you hoped for.
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Are you serious? A farmstead/estate will be like a combo supermarket and hardware store to desperate wanderers.
Who may also have scoped deer rifles, and a lot of patience. Just hide in the bush 400 yards away, recon who comes and goes and when, then shoot the biggest man who seems to be in charge.
Even if it doesn’t work, (say, you call neighbors adn they rescue your family and roust the bad guys), Dad is still dead.
Or do you have some super NV/FLIR setup, operating 24/7 in 360* in automatic mode, that will alert you to every human approach within rifle range of your abode?
Or do you have enough troops living at your house to patrol the rifle-range distances 24/7?
Most people don’t.
There are a few aspects of marine mobile survival I’m keeping close to the vest, but I’ll private mail you.
That is frigging AMAZING! Landing uphill on a mountain ridge at 11,000 feet! Wow! What a pilot!
Driving from Tucson westward, you pass Table Mountain AZ. I always thought there HAD to be a landing strip on top. If you helo’d in a small dozer, you could improve the runway and build homes up there. And there are plenty of table mountains in the West.
I understand. My question was more your advice to someone whose skills are light going out and buying a 30 ft yacht thinking they can sail off when TSHTF and be fine at sea for 180 days.
If folks are infirm or suffer motion sickness they can’t get over, then sailing is out. Otherwise, if you can learn to ride a bike, you can learn to sail.
But the utility of the sailboat escape pod option is not only for pulling thousand-mile voyages. A sailboat allows you to coast-hop from a really horrible location to a better one. One state might be reduced to Somalia or Rwanda, while another might be relatively safe. Forget driving, you will just get trapped in fatal gridlock. A small plane or a sailboat will allow you to bypass the gridlock, roadblocks and ambuses.
Read about John Guzzwell, who sailed a home-made 20 footer from California to Australia to return to his girlfriend. Or many other similar stories. It’s viable, if you are healthy enough for hiking and camping and agile enough to ride a bike, you CAN sail. As long as you are not chronically seasick, which some folks are.
To paraphrase someone else: I don’t see how with those balls that airplane wasn’t overweight!
Clearly you have planned for every possible contingency, and nobody will ever sneak inside of rifle range in all that cover. Good luck, I mean it.
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With a large enough microSD, it will hold a Topo of an entire continent. The Garmin satellite images from their download service are amazingly accurate. I've found them to be within 10' while driving around my property on an ATV and the resolution allows you to view down to individual tree level. I have the Oregon model since it's small enough to put in my shirt or pants pocket. Uses 2 AA rechargeable batteries that last over 12 hours.
If the situation has deteriorated to such an extent that fleeing becomes necessary, why do you believe Garmin’s GPS service would still be functional?
It may or may not be. Leaving familiar terrain in a societal breakdown sounds suicidal to me. The only way I’d consider it is if remaining where I am removed all doubt and the mere possibility elsewhere would be an improvement.
The above said, I never travel without backup maps or my trusty compass.
I take it that you don't live in or near NYC, LA, or NO then.
Also, what if you needed to go rescue a loved one or friend and get them to safer area? For a few hundred bucks, it could prove to be a life saver. That's my call and what your personal equipment list consists of is certainly up to you.
Within the next few months (haven’t been keeping close track though) a bunch of comets are going to pass by, earth will likely or for sure be swept by some tails; many of which have asteroids and other stuff in them.
And funny thing is NASA not too long ago sent some kind of “be prepared” memo to employees. Junk passing by could potentially damage satellites. I would not count on GPS but would always have all kinds of reliable backout that I knew how to use.
And what might that be??? Yes, this is a test...
I guess compasses and maps! And being familiar with terrain.
Personally I’m not bugging out or planning to go anywhere. I am as remote as I can get without hiking off into national forest.
POWs hoping to escape, risked their lives to obtain or create what today can obtained from Walmart or Amazon for only a few bucks.
You are correct. We do have a couple of working compasses and stacks of maps, including very detailed ones of the valley I live in and surrounding mountains. We’re sort of into the map thing.
There could always be a forest fire that would force us out, can’t imagine much else.
I don’t want anybody’s dander up. Everybody’s circumstances are different. My boat could be trapped in a marina and never make it to the ocean, and so on. Or the balloon could go up while we’re a thousand miles from home. My only zone of disagreement was what I took to be your rather blase attitude toward the threat infiltrators would make. I think a lot of folks in general think that a zone of fire and a rifle or rifles will keep them safe from attack, and I think they often fail to consider that the attackers can also have rifles and fire from ambush in a sneak attack. The dumb refugees will all be dead. The ones who survive to make it to the retreats will be smart and will have honed their raid tactics, and will have picked up good weapons along the way. I wish us all good luck, we’ll all need it, along with our preps and our faith and our families. I wish disparagement on no sincere freeper here, so I’m sorry if my tone was over the line. For that I sincerely apologize. I hope we are still freeping away in peace a decade hence, and are not crouching over hidden campfires. —Matt
Any useable caves in your area? :)
Amen. I met a guy who fell off a big sportfisher after leaving Bimini for Fort Lauderdale. By the time the others, asleep below, noticed he was gone, miles had gone by. He spent 48 hours treading water in the Gulfstream with one arm, the other being dislocated falling from the tower over the gunnel into the water. They had just come from a big Hatteras Bertram Shootout, adn he had a bunch of poker winnings from the associated partying and card playing in his pockets. He tread water for two days, thinking he was a dead man. All the while he thought of the things he could have purchased in any West Marine or Boat US store with the cash in his pockets. Rafts, flares, beacons and so on. But he had only the paper money and no chance to get to those stores. He was plucked from the water after dawn on the third day, and lived to tell the tale to me.
Tons of ‘em. ;-)
What a story. I hope the paper money wasn’t ruined!
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Our personal situations are very different in many ways from one of us to another. For example, my perceptions of being situated in a city or anyplace on most of the terrain of our country are less clear than for most of you (except for my past training and experiences). Here, the climate and distances are far more dangerous than violent criminals can be.
Oh, yeah, I’ve lived in all kinds of places in the past but haven’t seen for over a decade, what most of the rest of you regularly see. Likewise for nearly all of you regarding this place (somewhat like Mars)—even those who’ve often visited. Prairie dogs here carry the Bubonic Plague, BTW. My overseas shots for that expired over 10 years ago, so no prairie dog stew, even if the SHTF. ;-)
I will agree with that. THe US is a vastly different culture than that of the Argies.
That could lead one to believe that things could be far worse here than was seen in SA. Far worse.
And Argentina’s collapse happened as a stand alone situation. Now the whole world is practically aflame. Or collapsing, or whatever one wants to call it.
Here’s another possible disaster scenario in the making now.
Outcasts:Tonight Tens Of Thousands Of Formerly Middle Class Americans Will Be Sleeping In Their Cars
There’s a clue for anyone in open and notorious use of government regulations (including local) or support from foreign communist and Islamist nations against one’s own countrymen in lieu of traditional competition: that is, invention, design, building and continued hard work related to domestic production (manufacturing).
I've told them 'driveway'. Amazing how many people think that they're that good of a friend to me. I'm stockpiling extra for my family, and ONE friend (with her family).
I've got about a dozen of the bricks. They stack nicely.
No, that fine ketch was just grabbed from google images to illustrate the concept. And the smaller boats above it might even be better survival platforms, due to lower upkeep costs and a lower profile generally. My escape pod is about at reply 64 or so.
Thanks for sharing!! Are your novels available on Kindle or Audible.com??
I love stories like yours. I have one as well. A friend of mine (back in the 90s) told a story of how he was washed overboard of a SSN returning to port in Japan. While they attempted to find him, it was stormy and rough. He floated just 24 hours, but he said the night was pretty rough. He did find God however, made his peace and after that he said it was the most beautiful and moving experience thus far.
Yours reminded me of another. As an NROTC middie I was on an LPD going from Okinawa to Korea, circa 1978. We had a bunch of Marines on board, hauling them to Pusan. At sunset in the Sea of Japan, calm water, two separate guys, a Marine and a sailor, both reported seeing a man overboard, waving his arms for help. Because two different people reported exactly the same thing, but a little delayed, the report was taken 100% seriously. We did an expanding box search pattern all night, using our old Starlight scopes etc. The Japanese reported that yes, they had lost a fisherman off a boat. We all KNEW the man was out there, alive enough to wave his arms frantically at a passing ship.
But we never found him. What a night he must have had, watching us boxing grids all around him with no luck.
See 242 for another sad man overboard story.
My books are all on Kindle, and Kindles do have an audio mode.
$$$hit happens out there, one just never knows. Thanks for the sea story!
Reminds me of a small shipping incident in 1912....
With all the other ships in the world attached to it so they can go down, too.
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