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'Gunwalking' to forcible citizen disarmament tyranny--compelling new evidence
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 14 July, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 07/15/2011 4:18:48 AM PDT by marktwain

Some in the gun rights advocacy community don't buy the official story, that "Project Gunwalker" was intended, through some "underpants gnome"-like magical mechanism, to "bring down a drug cartel." We believe instead that the real motive was to pad statistics which would then be used to bolster the foundering "U.S. commercial gun market is arming Mexican drug cartels" myth. In taking that position, we have opened ourselves up to the ridicule of such journalistic luminaries as Media Matters and Jon Stewart, who apparently really do believe both that senior government officials are stupidly incompetent enough to take such a harebrained approach to combating drug war violence, and that such massive incompetence isn't a pretty dire indictment of the current government.

In light of some new evidence released by Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA), Media Matters and Stewart would seem to have some serious new work to do in patching up the "underpants gnome" defense. That new evidence comes in the form of Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) emails related to Operation Fast and Furious, that Congressmen Issa and Grassley have obtained in their "Gunwalker" investigation, and attached to a letter (thank you, Bob Owens) they sent to Attorney General Holder Tuesday.

We'll look at a couple of those emails, both from BATFE Assistant Director for Field Operations Mark Chait, to William "Gunwalker Bill" Newell (at that time Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix field division, where Operation Fast and Furious was implemented). First, this one, sent one year ago today:

Bill - can you see if these guns were all purchased from same FfL and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks Mark R. Chait Assistant Director Field

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1 posted on 07/15/2011 4:18:54 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 07/15/2011 4:20:23 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Was this promulgated while the Democrats were still dreaming of holding on to the full Congress in 2010?


3 posted on 07/15/2011 4:34:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: marktwain

This article from last year (before Fast & Furious came to light) shows how they intended F & F to serve their propaganda.

Force/encourage dealers to sell guns, then show how many US guns were being used in Mexico. Obama/Holder then need only a short hop to then try to implement a ‘crackdown’ on gun sales...voila!!!

THIS was the real intent of this scandalous program implemented by this scandalous administration.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/12/as-mexico-drug-violence-runs-rampant-us.html


4 posted on 07/15/2011 4:37:03 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: marktwain

A one word conclusion - treason.


5 posted on 07/15/2011 4:49:16 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: marktwain
Media Matters and Stewart would seem to have some serious new work to do in patching up the "underpants gnome" defense.

Media Matters doesn't give rat's ass about facts of any kind. They are typical Soros front, only interested in pushing up the hysteria level of the loonie left.
7 posted on 07/15/2011 5:08:29 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000; sergeantdave
Media Matters doesn't give rat's ass about facts of any kind. They are typical Soros front, only interested in pushing up the hysteria level of the loonie left.

A one word conclusion - treason.

BUMP! BUMP!

8 posted on 07/15/2011 5:30:10 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: marktwain

How many don’t get the reference “underpants gnome”?

I find this absolutely amazing that some obscure SouthPark episode has made its way so deep into our culture as to be used as an example in a political discussion.

The “Underpants Gnome” episode is a very good examination of the thought processes of a lot of people.

Step 1) Do something bizarre (Steal underpants)
Step 2) ????
Step 3) Get the result you want (profit)


9 posted on 07/15/2011 5:44:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain

Obama told Mrs. Brady:

“We are working under the radar.”

It’s as plain as the butt on Obama’s wife what that means.

“Gunwalker” is that under the radar plan.


10 posted on 07/15/2011 5:57:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: marktwain

If the trail of dots on Fast and Furious and Gunwalker lead to Attorney General Holder, and then to President Obama, and if this policy was planned to involve creating chaos in Mexico in order to justify changes in the US domestic political dynamic, not only are these officials complicit in any deaths in Mexico, but I think this an impeachable offense because it subverts the Constitution.

If the above reasoning is sound, could we not say the same about the Gulf of Tonkin Incident that was used to justify war? I am prepared that some would claim the same for Bush 43 and his invasion of Iraq except that invasion was supported at the time by independent evidence supplied by other nations, even as that some of that evidence was later shown to mostly be erroneous.


11 posted on 07/15/2011 6:10:15 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: marktwain

What is also interesting is the confidence that Obama has placed in the media on this.

Let’s say the plan went forward and the administration was showing numbers of US weapons traced to Mexico.

Dealers who were forced to sell firearms would be screaming about the setup.

Obama knows that the MSM would ignore the claims made by those dealers and actually paint them as “part of the problem”.

The test run for this was conducted in 2010 by the Washington Post who ran numerous stories about specific dealers who had the highest number of criminally used firearms traced back to their store.

The Washington Post story was based on information given to them by the BATFE.

The dealers were all cleared as they were cooperating with the BATFE. The Washington Post gave less than one paragraph to the dealers’ clearance....but their names were smeared.

This was the template for Fast & Furious.


12 posted on 07/15/2011 6:20:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: theBuckwheat

“Gunwalker” is the Reichstag fire of this regime, both having the exact same purpose, that is to eliminate political opposition by imposing new draconian laws.


13 posted on 07/15/2011 6:21:52 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: marktwain
some "underpants gnome"-like magical mechanism,

nothing to add. I just liked the reference.

14 posted on 07/15/2011 6:30:48 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

FOR REFERENCE:

15 posted on 07/15/2011 7:36:34 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: marktwain
Bttt.

5.56mm

16 posted on 07/15/2011 7:42:37 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: theBuckwheat

Apples and oranges.

Comparing Fast & Furious to the Tonkin Gulf Resolution and/or the run up to Iraq is conflating history.

Giving firearms to Mexican drug cartels knowing full well they will murder Mexican and American citizens, for the purpose of undermining the the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution, is in no way comparable to LBJ’s effort to fight international communism, nor W’s fight against Islamic terrorism.

Rather than fighting communism and terrorism, Obama has declared war on America.


17 posted on 07/15/2011 9:01:51 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: MrB

Matt Stone and Trey Parker, creators of South Park, are both libertarians, IIRC.


18 posted on 07/15/2011 11:15:07 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: marktwain

“Persians, COME AND GET THEM”


19 posted on 07/15/2011 11:17:40 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Vulgar creative geniuses...


20 posted on 07/15/2011 11:31:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Tyrants never tire.

They shall rue the day however.

21 posted on 07/15/2011 11:46:31 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: MikeSteelBe; Nachum; MestaMachine

Another Gunwalker article. MikeSteelBe has a good comment.


22 posted on 07/15/2011 2:14:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


23 posted on 07/15/2011 3:24:00 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I see you already have a plan. Good! :-)


24 posted on 07/15/2011 3:47:22 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: marktwain

bump


25 posted on 07/15/2011 6:11:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: MestaMachine

Can you put me on the ping list?


26 posted on 07/16/2011 8:45:49 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Liz Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012)
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