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To: SmithL

I’m feeling a little bit vindicated. Been telling people this for years, and have had some people call me everything from an egg-sucking dog to a Rethuglican liar and worse.

The truth is often hard to accept: the Democrats have been telling bald-faced lies about the SS issue for years. There is no contract. It isn’t a pension. The US doesn’t “default” if the SS checks don’t go out. There is no contractual obligation, written stone, sand, the water or in the air. There is no trust fund. That cute little account statement the SSA sends you every year is NOT “your account,” and there is no “sacred trust” - it is only a welfare program. And Congress can both increase and decrease the benefits any time they’d like.

BTW, the pivotal case as to whether SS is a pension fund or a contract with defined benefits or a welfare scheme was decided in the SCOTUS in Fleming v. Nestor in 1960:

http://www.ssa.gov/history/nestor.html

As I like to tell liberals: “Hey baby, it’s decided case law.... just like Roe v. Wade. And you guys love to talk about how Supreme Court cases are the law of the land, right?”


5 posted on 07/15/2011 1:30:21 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

You and me both.

How many freepers will defend their “right” to SS because it was earned? Many on this forum believe that since they were “promised” they are now “owed” especially because they “earned’ it. Others defend it because its is “all I have”.

Then there are the ones who believe its just a matter of not wasting money elsewhere and giving it to them instead.

Bottom line...SS is the program that turns conservative, small government limited government freedom loving Freepers into welfare queens.

But don’t worry Obahmmy will preserve you benefit. You will just have to give up a strong defense, some liberties, and tax your children and grand children into oblivion.


6 posted on 07/15/2011 2:45:33 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: NVDave

Did you ever see my thread where Peter Schiff gets the Trustee of SS to admit its a ponzi scam ?


8 posted on 07/15/2011 3:11:00 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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