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Ambassador to Honduras in Billy Hoover's office at ATF HQ now
http://www.sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/ ^ | 7/15 | http://www.sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/

Posted on 07/15/2011 4:46:09 PM PDT by RummyChick

In Billy Hoover's office today: U.S. Ambassador to Honduras Hugo Llorens.

My favorite Hugo Llorens quote:

"One can't violate the Constitution in order to create another Constitution, because if one doesn't respect the Constitution, then we all live under the law of the jungle." Hugo Llorens, June 2009, in reference to President Manuel Zelaya's planned referendum on a proposed constitutional assembly.

I guess we'll see if what Llorens thinks is good for the goose is equally good for the gander. Maybe he's there to give Billy Hoover a lesson on our Constitution. He could sure as hell use it.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: atf; castaway; gunrunner; gunwalker; honduras; llorens; ms13; zelaya

1 posted on 07/15/2011 4:46:13 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

and

The latest from Proceso Digital: ATF did not inform Honduran government of “walked” firearms.

http://www.proceso.hn/2011/07/14/Caliente/Tr.C.A/39817.html

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/07/latest-from-honduran-newspaper-proceso.html

Guns Trafficking: Defense and Security Unknown Operation in Honduras


2 posted on 07/15/2011 4:47:28 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; HonCitizen; Girlene; livius; stephenjohnbanker; Son House; ABQHispConservative; ...
Honduras ping

Freepmail me to be added to / removed from Honduras ping list.
Please ping me to threads of interest.
Logo by kanawa

3 posted on 07/15/2011 4:50:50 PM PDT by don-o (This post is certified to be spam free.)
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To: RummyChick

What are the odds that the guns went to President Manuel Zelaya’s supporters?


4 posted on 07/15/2011 5:07:03 PM PDT by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: rocksblues

That’s what I was thinking.


5 posted on 07/15/2011 5:20:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: RummyChick

Llorens is the son of a Cuban refugee. An economist by training, he is not a rock the boat type. If Washington tells him to sneeze,he will ask how many times. He is not, however, a liar. If brought before Congress you can expect him to tell the truth.


6 posted on 07/15/2011 5:21:57 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: rocksblues

I wouldn’t bet against it.


7 posted on 07/15/2011 5:23:18 PM PDT by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: pingman

And what does F&F stand for.......
8 posted on 07/15/2011 5:30:31 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Rep. Darrell Issa: ‘It’s Hard To Believe’ AG Eric Holder Didn’t Know About ‘Operation Fast And Furious’

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rep-darrell-issa-its-hard-to-believe-ag-eric-holder-didnt-know-about-operation-fast-and-furious/

“If he was so engaged that he would fly to Mexico, do this speech, talking around ‘Fast and Furious,’ it’s hard for us to believe that all throughout that year-plus process and even as this program fell apart and became a problem for [the Department of] Justice, that nobody should have told him something.”


9 posted on 07/15/2011 5:33:02 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Fact: In a Jan. 25, 2011, Phoenix press conference, Special Agent in Charge William Newell was asked whether ATF agents were ever ordered to allow guns to “walk” into Mexico. He answered, “Hell no!”


10 posted on 07/15/2011 5:35:28 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

can’t find a video of Newell at that press conference


11 posted on 07/15/2011 5:41:59 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

ATF Death Watch 35: The Reluctant Attache

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/07/daniel-zimmerman/atf-death-watch-35-the-reluctant-attache/


12 posted on 07/15/2011 5:45:23 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

you have got to see this interview with Bill Newell.

OUTRAGEOUS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCRDHuwc_7I


13 posted on 07/15/2011 5:49:57 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Nachum; MestaMachine

Gunwalker Honduras, fyi.


14 posted on 07/15/2011 6:00:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

Thanks for the heads up little jeremiah

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


15 posted on 07/15/2011 6:12:34 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
This are wicked cool

16 posted on 07/15/2011 6:16:54 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

is dat you?

:)


17 posted on 07/15/2011 6:19:12 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
I didn't know guns were such high fashion. Chanel even made one

18 posted on 07/15/2011 6:24:35 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
What could possibly go wrong carrying one of these

19 posted on 07/15/2011 6:33:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I guess it is one use for the gun buy-back programs!


20 posted on 07/15/2011 6:36:01 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: RummyChick

Just what is Demand Letter 3. Not sure yet..but here is another reference

http://viewfrombajaarizona.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/atf-seeks-to-counterspin-news-reports-of-gunrunner-scandal/


21 posted on 07/15/2011 6:45:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: MestaMachine

gunwalker ping.


22 posted on 07/15/2011 6:45:01 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: RummyChick

here we go...how the ATF uses demand letters.

http://www.nraila.org/media/pdfs/ATFLongGunSalesReporting.pdf

probably demand letter 3

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2010/12/122010-hdqrts-melson-webcast.html

Recently, ATF announced through the Federal Register our intent to initiate a new Demand Letter requiring the reporting of multiple sales of certain long guns by Federal Firearms Licensees, known as FFLs, in the four Southwest Border States. We took this step as a way to help gain actionable law enforcement intelligence which we believe will help reduce criminal firearms trafficking along the Southwest border.
Before we can actually issue the Demand Letter we must receive approval from the Office of Management and Budget for purposes of the paperwork reduction act. We expect to receive that approval in early January, 2011.


23 posted on 07/15/2011 6:53:10 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rocksblues

Does any of this spark your interest?

A man from Honduras named “Albin Zelaya” is in prison in Houston for horrible crimes. He is a member of MS-13.

“MS-13 gang members targeted by international task force”
http://www.khou.com/news/MS-13-gang-members-targeted-by-teams-of-law-enforcement-87732327.html

Operation Castaway placed 1,000 weapons in the hands of MS-13.

Questions:

Is “Albin Zelaya” connected to Mel Zelaya?

Were the 1,000 weapons intended for supporters of Mel Zelaya (before he was removed as president of Honduras)?

Was MS-13 behind Mel Zelaya?

I have been told by Hondurans that Mel Zelaya had drug flights out of his home town on a weekly basis toward the end of his presidency.

Did Obozo send weapons to Honduras for MS-13 to start a revolution there?

IF there is a connection (lots of coincidences exist) this one could be the “Big One”.


24 posted on 07/15/2011 8:04:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: don-o

That’s a nice quote about the Constitution but as I recall Hugo Llorens parroted 0bama and Hillary and backed Zelaya.


25 posted on 07/15/2011 9:12:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...
Apologies. Got thrown offline for awhile. Late ping.

FOR REFERENCE:

26 posted on 07/15/2011 9:33:30 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: RummyChick

I would guess fast and furious.


27 posted on 07/16/2011 7:28:14 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Texas Fossil

I wouldn’t put anything past this administration. What really gets my goat is that the MSM would deliberately cover it up.


28 posted on 07/16/2011 7:48:57 AM PDT by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: rocksblues

Yep.


29 posted on 07/16/2011 7:52:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: don-o

Ping

“It is like sticking a knife in Israel’s heart” (Honduras advocates recognition of Palestine at UN)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2758357/posts


30 posted on 08/03/2011 7:12:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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