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The Continuing Malicious Prosecution of Julie Bass, from veggie gardening to dog owning
Food Freedom ^ | July 15, 2011 | none stated

Posted on 07/15/2011 8:59:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Contrary to recent media reports, the malicious prosecution of Julie Bass of Oak Park, Michigan has not ended. Authorities have also charged her with having unlicensed dogs, though they never escaped or threatened anyone. Here’s the unedited scoop straight from her own blog, Oak Park Hates Veggies:

Home-grown: Julie Bass has fallen foul of local authorities by growing vegetables in her front yardHome-grown: Julie Bass has fallen foul of local authorities by growing vegetables in her front yard

1- the charges against us were not actually “dropped”. they were dismissed by some judge we have never heard of or seen. we hope this person is a real judge, and had the real authority to dismiss our case, but we are going to double-check on that today

2- the dismissal without prejudice means that the prosecutor can come back at any time and reinstate the garden charge as well (he has already reinstated the dog license charge, but i will get to that in a minute). there has been no final disposition of the case, so we can’t take a deep breath and relax.

3- the prosecutor wants more time to review the ordinance. not that he has given up on the garden charge. to the contrary, he wants more time to look things over. i think usually the prosecutor in normal cases would ask the judge for a continuance or an adjournment or something. why they handled it this way is a suspicious mystery…

4- we still have our same court date- july 26th. we still have to appear for a pre-trial, only this time it will be for 2 misdemeanors (the dogs), instead of 1 misdemeanor for the garden.

5- when we got the citation for the dog licenses we cleared it up right away. we went in that friday, only to find that our government is closed on friday due to budget cuts (!). we went back as soon as we were able the following week and took care of it. we paid the license fees. we paid late fees. we got proof from them that the dogs were current and paid up, and we took this proof to court and we showed it to the prosecutor.

6- our current and valid dog licenses were shown on at least on TV news program, and i’m sure were re-broadcast many times over. there is no controversy about whether or not our dogs are licensed. they weren’t current and now they are. that’s it.

7- i can’t think of anything else to clarify, but please keep the word out there that we are not off the hook. a lot of places have been printing and posting “charges were dropped!”- but that’s only part of the story, and gives the incorrect impression that we have won. that’s not true, and i really worry that if the focus goes away, they will renew their prosecution/persecution of us. please take it upon yourself to correct errors in other places and to spread the truth.


TOPICS: Gardening; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bass; dog; gardening; illegal; lawsuit; michigan; municipal; socialists; strategy
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There is a video on the link where Fox stated that the city had dismissed the charge about the garden to give more time to review the statute. But the city did issue a citation for unlicensed dogs, which the owner said had been licensed properly and showed paperwork. The court when called by Fox stated that anyone who receives a citation must appear in court and if their paperwork is OK the charges will be dropped. Harassment?? You bet yah.

My advice to Julie Bass, move to a community who appreciates good gardeners and loves pets. It is not Oak Park, Michigan.

1 posted on 07/15/2011 8:59:10 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

“Internet Buzz: Concept of Jail Time for Growing a Vegetable Garden “

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/why-cant-i-grow-a-vegetable-garden-in-my-front-yard_20110712_dk

This is where the video is.


2 posted on 07/15/2011 9:01:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

She pleads at the end of the article for people to continue to get the word out. I think she has learned a big lesson about the power of the government to interfere in her life. I feel badly for the woman.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 9:20:00 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: Texas Fossil

OK the local government reaction is extreme but I saw the photo of this lady’s yard on another article and the vegetable plots do nothing to improve an already dumpy looking house, seriously would you want someone growing a vegetable garden in their front yard on your street? What’s next chickens?


4 posted on 07/15/2011 9:34:14 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: battousai

This is better than her getting food stamps, more attractive than piles of deteriorating play equipment in the front yard or old cars left out. On the scheme of things, it is very wrong for her to be punished for a garden in the front when there are so many not willing or able to maintain their property.
And I grew up next to several people with gardens in the FRONT, including a tulip grower.


5 posted on 07/15/2011 9:40:37 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: battousai

I have no problem with either.

In fact my neighbor did keep chickens for a while. He is a great mechanic, good neighbor and county commissioner.

And there are no local ordinances about either.

I have blueberry, strawberry, blackberry plants and plum and fig bushes in my back yard and flower beds. The majority of my garden is on another lot and at our farm.

Here in the middle of “The Big Nothing” in central Texas you can do about whatever you want as long as you are a good neighbor about it.

Free men need not ask permission!

Note my tag line.


6 posted on 07/15/2011 9:40:37 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

I could never live in a mess like Oak Park or Detroit.

They would do far worse to me than they are doing to her.

That is why I am so comfortable here in Texas. We do not need all those “rules”. And it is clear that the ones they are applying to her are “arbitrary”. It is about punishing not about the law.

The weenee little “Planner” does not see that he is largely useless. But he is “in charge”. He would not last long around here.


7 posted on 07/15/2011 9:44:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

The municipal there may be trying to get her busy and stressed enough to keep her from suing, which she has already signaled. As for pets, many people in most locales are regarding them in a somewhat worshipful way, as though they are more human than humans. But gardening, no. Most are against gardening, because they’re lazy, vain, wouldn’t do it themselves, and are simply against their neighbors doing or having anything.

People are getting more weird and illogical every year now. Maybe the default ahead is what our nation needs to get it back in shape.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 9:53:19 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness smelled around the earth.)
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To: battousai
OK the local government reaction is extreme but I saw the photo of this lady’s yard on another article and the vegetable plots do nothing to improve an already dumpy looking house, seriously would you want someone growing a vegetable garden in their front yard on your street? What’s next chickens?

What part of "it's HER HOUSE" don't you understand, comrade?

9 posted on 07/15/2011 9:54:03 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Does a person have to live far out in the country to even begin to be free? In a city they have cameras everywhere, police everywhere and a few thousand rules about how to do every little thing.


10 posted on 07/15/2011 9:54:05 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: battousai

I wonder if they’ll send the SWAT team in to take her and her garden down?


11 posted on 07/15/2011 9:54:05 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Some whiny tight butt definitely has some agenda against her. Next they’ll complain about what color her living room curtains are. Good luck to her.

I have a garden, two front yards and no back yard (or maybe it’s two back yards and no front yard). What to do, what to do.


12 posted on 07/15/2011 9:54:20 PM PDT by bgill
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To: familyop
People are getting more weird

Yep. Total detachment from reality. The more connected to nature that a people are the more sane they are.

13 posted on 07/15/2011 9:57:21 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: battousai
"What’s next chickens?"

LOL...never been to Louisiana, have you?

14 posted on 07/15/2011 10:00:22 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: dog breath
Does a person have to live far out in the country to even begin to be free?

Probably not, but it works for me. My family has lived in this county since 1889. I was away for about 25 years but have been back for 15. It is still home. And the last time I looked, in spite of Obozo, This Is Still Texas.

FUBO!

15 posted on 07/15/2011 10:00:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Joe 6-pack

My I love Cajun Food. Some of it starts with chicken.

I even like the accents in Louisiana. hee hee hee


16 posted on 07/15/2011 10:04:52 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: battousai

Hey! I have a mixed vegatable/flower garden in my front yard!


17 posted on 07/15/2011 10:06:55 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Texas Fossil

I was born in Wayne County, not far from Detroit. I grew up in a rural village about an hour away from Detroit. It was a really desirable area to live in at the time. I lived there until after high school.

Michigan is in a sad state.

It has beautiful landscape. The Great Lakes are a national treasure. I loved the seasons. It was great being so close to Canada. There are some special things about Michigan that make it like no other state, and I have fond memories of my youth there.

But, wild horses couldn’t drag me back there to raise my own children.

I have two brothers that live there, way, way out in the county. I think they would bolt, if they had the opportunity to do so.


18 posted on 07/15/2011 10:11:46 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

I have lived in TX, NM and OK. Loved things about all of them. I traveled 11 states at a point in time. Texas will always be home.

But I had some ancestors that were born in TX during the Republic of Texas.

We will outlast the O bastard.


19 posted on 07/15/2011 10:20:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: VietVet
The deed says you own it. Why should some bureaucrap be able to tell you how to live on it?

Free men need not ask permission!

20 posted on 07/15/2011 10:23:27 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

My advice to Ms. Bass is to send a $250 donation to the local Fraternal Order of Police or Sheriff’s Office. That should help her cucumbers grow freely.


21 posted on 07/15/2011 10:28:36 PM PDT by GreatRoad
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To: battousai

“What’s next chickens?”

Please! Don’t knock chickens.

Bureaucrats keep them in their yards.

That is how their children learn how to walk.


22 posted on 07/15/2011 10:35:38 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, Kill the EPA!!!)
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To: Talisker
What part of "it's HER HOUSE" don't you understand, comrade?

The part where her 'garden' impacts the value of her neighbours houses...that is why cities have such ordanances, otherwise as you say to hell with your neighbours everyone could do whatever they wanted, don't mow the lawn for months on end, dump rusted old cars on the driveway... why not, everything goes on 'your property' right?

We all generally take the side of the 'downtrodden' facing the big government bureaucrats, but in this case this lady is being selfish and inconsiderate of her neighbours, if she wants a vegetable garden... put it in the back like everyone else, and replant the sod on her front lawn. Instead she wants the easy way out and expects her neighbours to live with the eyesore.
23 posted on 07/15/2011 11:40:11 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: tbw2
On the scheme of things, it is very wrong for her to be punished for a garden

I agree that the way the city is handling it is overkill, not sure if they had taken other approaches prior to this... but I still say if she wans vegetables... she has a back yard...
24 posted on 07/15/2011 11:43:42 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: battousai
if she wants a vegetable garden... put it in the back like everyone else

Spoken like a true collectivist authoritarian...

A vegetable garden isn't exactly tantamount to a rusty old car or an unmowed lawn, now, is it?

25 posted on 07/15/2011 11:47:46 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: battousai

Looking at the photos tells me that she doesn’t particularly live in an upscale neighborhood with an HOA. Knowing Oak Park, I would imagine that her house could look similar to another house on her street. This is a suburb of Detroit, where property values have plummeted.

My brother looked at buying a 1950’s 3bedroom, brick home in Taylor, MI. It’s not that far away from Oak Park, really. He could have bought the house for $5000 in 2009.

For the amount of property taxes that are paid in those areas, and the crushing machine of the government that has destroyed metro Detroit, Oak Park should leave its inhabitants alone and be grateful that they haven’t fled for greener pastures. Do they want more empty homes in Oak Park? This article is not helping the city of Oak Park’s reputation, any.


26 posted on 07/15/2011 11:49:46 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: battousai

So you have no problem paying for her property taxes I assume? I mean since you want to tell her what to do with HER property as it does or does not appeal to YOUR eyes.

Good grief.


27 posted on 07/16/2011 1:25:19 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: dog breath

In most states, moving far out in the country because the sheeple in the cities insist on making statewide ordinances.


28 posted on 07/16/2011 4:33:17 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Let me say about Oak Park, Michigan what Ernest Hemingway said about Oak Park, Illinois: Wide lawns, narrow minds.

I have a neighbor who made her front yard a vegetable garden. It is absolutely beautiful - so well-cared for. Her neighbors have all stopped talking to her. Now, that could be because she’s a somewhat cold person but I think it’s because they can’t deal with a front yard that looks “different.” To me, it’s like a garden of Eden.


29 posted on 07/16/2011 4:58:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: battousai

Well, did you see the other houses and yards on her block? They appeared in one of the early videos. Unimaginative landscaping on the best and weed filled trash heaps on the the worst.

Did you miss the part of this story where the city started this by tearing up her yard and destroying the existing landscaping by replacing a sewer line?


30 posted on 07/16/2011 5:05:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: battousai

I’ve looked at the same pictures you’ve looked at and the garden is perfectly nice and neat. The veggies are in raised beds which always make things much nicer and neater. If her neighbors and the city council were smart, they’d befriend her and maybe get a nice fresh tomato or ear of corn.

I hate to tell you but there is a strong movement to bring back chickens to the suburbs. Not roosters but hens. For the fresh eggs of course. I recently took a course on raising hens for the backyard but rejected it. A hell of a lot of work and you must - obviously - devote a lot of time to it.


31 posted on 07/16/2011 5:10:02 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: VietVet

Can you show us a picture? I have a mixed flower/herb garden in my side yard - far more beautiful and interesting than some lousy ole lawn.


32 posted on 07/16/2011 5:16:02 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: battousai
Lol. There is a reason chickens are called “yard bird”.

Overheard in the Potlatch Idaho post office.

“Those darn Nivens and all their animals in town, next thing you know they will have a PIG” Shelly Smith, next door neighbor.

Grandpa Niven went out the next day and got the biggest fattest sow he could find.

When he saw her looking at it from her back yard he went out to slop it “SUUUU-EEEEE Shelly pig, Come and get it Shelly pig!”

33 posted on 07/16/2011 5:25:51 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: battousai
What’s next chickens?

If little Barry Hussein gets what he wants we'll all be doing this.

Cordially,

34 posted on 07/16/2011 5:27:04 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Texas Fossil

Who in the world would want to live in Oak Park, MI, poster city for the nanny state?


35 posted on 07/16/2011 5:36:26 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: miss marmelstein

If you have limited space and resources it makes perfectly good sense to plant and cultivate that which can be eaten vs something that is simply pleasant to look at.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


36 posted on 07/16/2011 5:38:56 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: kittymyrib

Agreed. Good point.


37 posted on 07/16/2011 5:39:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: battousai

When choosing a retirement home, one of our top requirements was: No Home Owners’ Association. We had to check out 55 places, but found exactly the right spot in Central Texas. As long as you are minding your own business on your acre of land, people leave you alone.

It is a wonderful way to live, and it’s a shame it is increasingly rare.


38 posted on 07/16/2011 5:44:21 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Texas Fossil

I have two neighbors on either side of my suburban home. Both houses and yards are a MESS. They have hard jobs and don’t seem to have much money or time to take care of their yards. They are extremely pleasant, kind people and I just ignore their yards. Sometimes a kind and concerned neighbor down the street shows up with his lawn mower and mows their lawn.

In the 6 years I’ve lived here, I’ve never once complained. But then they don’t complain if my dog or cat gets into their yard or my crazed honeysuckle takes over their forsythia bush. I have really learned the hard art of live and let live.

I can’t imagine anyone complaining about a neat and clean vegetable garden. As someone else said, if Obama continues in office, we’ll all have vegetable gardens.


39 posted on 07/16/2011 5:49:58 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: Texas Fossil
If you have limited space and resources it makes perfectly good sense to plant and cultivate that which can be eaten vs something that is simply pleasant to look at. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, I'm stunned that in those areas in the Southwest where water is truly becoming scarce, that watering ones lawn is not an outright crime. How can a pretty color in the front yard ever be more important than having water for consumption?

40 posted on 07/16/2011 5:52:15 AM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: miss marmelstein

I identify with your post and certainly agree.

For most people, a garden is not really about saving money, but about better quality of food.

In 2003 my grandmother had a heart attack at 96. The doctors told her she could no longer live alone as she had done for 17 years after my grandfather died. My wife and I stayed with her every night and cooked her meals and spent the day with here for about 1 year. We did not move in, but had a few changes of clothes there. She always had beautiful flower beds and working in the yard is what kept her going. We planted a garden the 2 summers we were there with her and she really enjoyed it. My wife (city girl) learned to love fresh garden veggies.

My son broke his back in a fall of his cutting horse and my wife and I turned my grandmother over to my father (her son) so we could nurse my son. He and my mom took care of my grandmother for about 9 months and then she was in a nursing home for a few months. She died at 98.

My grandmother was from old pioneer stock and was never happy again when it got to the point she could not work in her yard.

She taught me many lessons as a child and others when I was an adult. I truly miss her.


41 posted on 07/16/2011 6:03:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Teacher317
I'm stunned that in those areas in the Southwest where water is truly becoming scarce

Water has always been scarce in the Desert Southwest. We are nearing the point that this will be a serious issue. Water tables are dropping to the point that a lot of farming will revert to "dry land" practices. The high plains of Texas are a good example. Many have abandoned sprinkler irrigation for drip irrigation systems because they no longer have sufficient water to supply their needs.

This is the hottest and driest year in my lifetime here in Texas. I am not sure that even the benchmark dry year of 1895 was dryer. This is driven by the sunspot cycle. We have known that during sunspot minimums and maximums that the weather patterns are more variable. Not dryer, nor wetter. Not hotter, nor cooler. But more variable depending on your location. We are just coming out of the longest and deepest sunspot minimum in my lifetime. This too shall pass.

42 posted on 07/16/2011 6:12:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

I am a city girl too - maybe that’s why I love my little patch of vegetables and herbs. All surrounded by my beloved hydrangea bushes (called snowball bushes in NYC).

I’m sorry to hear about your son. I hope he recovered! What is a cutting horse?

Your grandmother sounds wonderful. I come from city people who arrived during the famous famine - the other half of my family were vaguely criminal 19th century NYC types until my grandfather was born and lived a wonderfully clean and wholesome life. Grow vegetables?? Fuhgeddabodit!


43 posted on 07/16/2011 6:55:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: miss marmelstein

We raised chickens...once. Cleaning the coop is about the worst job I can imagine for a hot, humid summer day. I am an avid tomato gardener. My friend with *free range chickens* cannot keep any sort of plant alive because her chickens eat everything, right down to the ground. She cannot bear the idea of penning them. So: my tomatoes for her eggs and everyone is happy.

Also, my chicken-raising experiment took place back in the 1970s. I can’t remember the exact accounting, but I believe it cost me about 10x the supermarket price to raise my own chickens and back then, cracked corn was cheap. Of course, so was chicken.


44 posted on 07/16/2011 6:58:53 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

It looks like I made the right decision! I think it’s Martha Stewart who popularized the idea of suburban chickens with her beautiful aracuna chicks. But she has a thousand flunkies to push around - and I don’t.

There is a small inner city where I live and I naively used to love the sound of the cocks crowing. Oh! I’d think, someone is raising chickens! Took me two minutes to realize it was all about cock-fighting.


45 posted on 07/16/2011 7:06:30 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: miss marmelstein

Aracuna bantams!

LOL! THAT is exactly what we raised. Long story, but they were given to us in partial payment for some work I did for a show breeder. They were 1/2 wild, hated their pen, fought, produced too many roosters, produced tiny little eggs (which _are_ tasty)and are quite scrawny when plucked for cooking.

2nd chapter: we decided to add some big White Plymouths (I _think_ that is what they were called) to the flock. We first got rid of all the aracuna roosters. However, the aracuna hens fought with the big white hens, knocked over a heat lamp in the middle of a December snow storm and almost burnt us down. They did burn their coop down. The dogs feasted on BBQ chicken all winter!

Aracunas are pretty birds, but they are a handful.


46 posted on 07/16/2011 11:13:43 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

First a reformed liberal, now a reformed chicken raiser! So glad I’ve read your posts in case I get another yen for a hen.


47 posted on 07/16/2011 1:49:58 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: battousai
would you want someone growing a vegetable garden in their front yard on your street?

Frankly, I'd rather have someone tending their garden than some lawn fanatic who sprays Round-Up on his lawn and flower beds. Julie Bass is an organic gardener, so at least there wouldn't be any chemicals wafting into my house.

48 posted on 07/16/2011 1:59:22 PM PDT by giotto
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To: miss marmelstein

LOL!

Also former hippie back-to-the-land-er. But all that has turned out to have been a good trial run for this economy.
Little did we know, way back then.


49 posted on 07/16/2011 2:35:51 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Well, it’s nice to know an ex-hippie has come full circle. It sounds like you’ve lived a very interesting life!!


50 posted on 07/17/2011 4:41:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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