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'Irrefutable' proof of Obama forgery
WND ^ | July 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/18/2011 4:28:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters

NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama's purported Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.

"Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.

As WND previously reported, it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter, according to Irey.

"These are irrefutable proofs of forgery," he said.

His newest analysis suggests the document was assembled from images of letters or words taken from other documents.

"The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike," he said.

"To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles," he continued. "So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That's why the letters in the forged document do not match each other."

Irey used as a source document the Xerox copy of the Obama birth certificate the White House press staff handed to the press assembled in the White House pressroom on April 27, as seen in Exhibit 1:

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; corruption; corsi; eligibility; farahsfolly; forgery; hawaii; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; thistimeforsure; usurper; wnd
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To: Wurlitzer
President Soebarka said we need to move past this silliness.
41 posted on 07/18/2011 7:07:49 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: wintertime

The anti-birther ‘layering’ explanation website and you tube videos were worse than the forgery itself.

One of them tried to show how a layer was created by showing a demo of OCR and how it removed the text and made a layer of it. It was so laughable- because it showed the security paper UNDERNEATH the letters- if the OCR software removed the letters, how did it know what was supposed to be underneath???

But the OCR argument gave them some cover long enough to make the issue calm down-

WHERE IS CORSI? DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONATC HIM? I NEED TO TALK TO HIM!!!!


42 posted on 07/18/2011 7:09:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: ml/nj
Maybe the typist was Mechanically inclined and swapped out typewriter parts as she typed?

It could happen. This is the most logical explanation.

43 posted on 07/18/2011 7:12:36 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Triple
It really is telling that the Folks defending the wh LFCOLB have dropped out.

Many FReepers on both sides of this issue have simply moved on. If you look at the eligibility threads (which seem to be fewer and fewer in number each week) it's more or less the same people posting more or less the same comments.

The issue is dead.

44 posted on 07/18/2011 7:12:44 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: RobinMasters
Before we get too excited over this, could we have some other BCs from the same time and place checked for non-matching letters? It's possible that, for instance, SOP was for the first part of the form to be filled in in anticipation of the birth and the second part later, on a different machine. I'm not saying it's so, but we need to be able to say that it's not so.
45 posted on 07/18/2011 7:26:46 AM PDT by Grut
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To: vanilla swirl
Seems some Hawaii officials are complicit in this. Now they have to cover their own backs.
46 posted on 07/18/2011 7:30:28 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Seems some Hawaii officials are complicit in this. Now they have to cover their own backs.

Your Congressman is complicit.

And that's the problem isn't it.

ML/NJ

47 posted on 07/18/2011 7:42:03 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

True, house of cards


48 posted on 07/18/2011 8:05:51 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: RobinMasters

I appreciate and support the idea that the so-called long form is problematic, but minutely examining character shapes seems a waste of time, since scanning commonly introduces distortions like this.


49 posted on 07/18/2011 8:15:56 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Vintage Freeper

The thing about the Big Lie is that it can never be tackled directly, head-on. That’s part of what makes it so insidious.

The Big Lie tends to be comfortable and convenient. Rejecting the Big Lie tends to be uncomfortable, inconvenient, and sometimes outright dangerous. People tend to choose a nice falsehood over a difficult truth. They will seize on whatever is at hand to validate themselves in sticking to that falsehood, no matter how flimsy.

That’s not a particularly hard thing to do when they are surrounded by a media and by politicians offering countless excuses and rationales for accepting that lie. It gets to the point where if you reject the lie, you get marginalized and no one takes you seriously.

When it comes to Obama, we cannot afford to be marginalized. This man is dangerous and needs to be ousted from office. We’ve got him on the ropes - there is no need to throw a political haymaker when a simple hook should do, especially when that haymaker might very well provide an opening for a counterattack should it miss.

And the birth certificate has a very strong chance of missing, even if proven to be a forgery.


50 posted on 07/18/2011 8:20:53 AM PDT by MWS
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To: ml/nj
Remember, I think it was Butter, posted txe thing about *it was in front of us all the time?* txe pesky fact that Hawaii stamps are either embossed or debossed and txe stamp on txe forgerieS were txe opposite? To me THAT along with Alvin's smiley face and txe *TXE* for *the* is hard to refute.
Any answers to that?
51 posted on 07/18/2011 8:23:01 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: charlene4

ML/NJ Sorry did not mean to post to you!


52 posted on 07/18/2011 8:25:07 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: P-Marlowe

“Is there a single document expert in the world who has declared the BC to be genuine?”

Probably not. But that’s because real document authentification experts like those who are certified by the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners would never do an analysis of a third or fourth generation digitized scan of a document as opposed to an analysis of the original document.
If you wanted to find out if a twenty dollar bill was counterfeit, would you want to have an expert look at a scan of that particular twenty or would you rather that they have the original alleged counterfeit twenty in their hot little hand?
Every generation of reproduction can introduce its own set of artifacts into a copy. The first being, did the person who made the original copy clean the photocopier glass before making the first generation copy?

To the best of my knowledge, only four people have seen the original, long form, vault copy, birth certificate over the last 50 years: two Hawaii Directors of Health, the current Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii and whoever the clerk was who made the two hard copy photocopies of the original.


53 posted on 07/18/2011 8:26:06 AM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: jh4freedom

One *expert* who Fox used denied that he told Fox it was Legit.

Check this! If true, I would gladly miss my SS check!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
August 4th 2011, Millions of Senior Citizens Could File Suit Against President Obama

Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:33

Well well well, Mr. Obama has slipped up! what he fails to recognize is IF he does withhold Social Security Checks.. he opens himself up to millions of lawsuits! Did you know that on June 16, 2011 Supreme court of the U.S. decided Bond v. United States, 564 U. S. ____ (2011) that if Obama‘s actions or inaction’s cause financial harm to an individual or group of individuals, that they have STANDING to file suit against him!?!?!
Ever wanted a shot at taking him down? now could be your chance to have standing to sue him bowlegged and once and for all prove he is not who he says he is. ie; ss#, lfcb, colb, selective service fraud, wire fraud, mail fraud, etc etc etc.
So kids, on August 4th 2011, you can file suit and have standing against President Barack Obama, Call your attorney NOW! don’t wait for the rush and reclaim what you not only earned but deserve!


54 posted on 07/18/2011 8:49:15 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: ml/nj

Superman left, Gumby right.


55 posted on 07/18/2011 9:03:51 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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56 posted on 07/18/2011 9:04:06 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Genoa
I appreciate and support the idea that the so-called long form is problematic, but minutely examining character shapes seems a waste of time, since scanning commonly introduces distortions like this.

To you, I say, "BS"!

I just happen to have a scanned copy of a Xerox copy of a letter I typed back in 1971 on a manual typewriter with a cloth ribbon. Here are the four capital 'R's from that letter:

The differences are entirely due to the force with which I struck the key when I typed.

ML/NJ

57 posted on 07/18/2011 9:28:45 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: MWS

Interesting how the Murdoch scandal in Britain is bringing down police officials, Mayors, journalist. It was a culture of looking the other way. Same with Atlanta Schools cheating. When it falls it is big.


58 posted on 07/18/2011 9:38:18 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The fact that you follow these threads contradicts your claim that this is a non-issue.

If you want to be consistent, we should not see any more of your posts on this topic.


59 posted on 07/18/2011 10:00:03 AM PDT by nosf40
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To: jh4freedom; xzins
To the best of my knowledge, only four people have seen the original, long form, vault copy, birth certificate over the last 50 years: two Hawaii Directors of Health, the current Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii and whoever the clerk was who made the two hard copy photocopies of the original.

All of this is hearsay. This document would not be admitted in any court of law as being the genuine birth certificate or a facsimile of the original. There is nothing to back up the fact that it is a copy of an original.

The issue could be resolved by Obama ordering a certified original and then giving the Certified Original to the press. He has posted a PDF on the White House web site with no documentation as to where it came from and there have been dozens of software engineers and documents experts who have not only questioned the authenticity of the document, but have declared it to be a fraud.

60 posted on 07/18/2011 10:05:31 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o)
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