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'Irrefutable' proof of Obama forgery
WND ^ | July 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/18/2011 4:28:59 AM PDT by RobinMasters

NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama's purported Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.

"Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.

As WND previously reported, it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter, according to Irey.

"These are irrefutable proofs of forgery," he said.

His newest analysis suggests the document was assembled from images of letters or words taken from other documents.

"The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike," he said.

"To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles," he continued. "So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That's why the letters in the forged document do not match each other."

Irey used as a source document the Xerox copy of the Obama birth certificate the White House press staff handed to the press assembled in the White House pressroom on April 27, as seen in Exhibit 1:

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; corruption; corsi; eligibility; farahsfolly; forgery; hawaii; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; thistimeforsure; usurper; wnd
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1 posted on 07/18/2011 4:29:03 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

And why should we think anything will ever happen because of this? The One was elected, end of story. You have to to convince the voters that “ rule of law” matters. Good luck with that........


2 posted on 07/18/2011 4:40:11 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: RobinMasters

. . . looks like another job for BUCKHEAD to take on .


3 posted on 07/18/2011 4:57:31 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLENN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: RobinMasters

good to see a presentation that just involves Xerox and typography-very good presentation for the ‘man or woman in the street’


4 posted on 07/18/2011 4:58:35 AM PDT by 1234 ("1984")
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To: RobinMasters

I still find it interesting that within a week of Obama releasing the so called “Long Form Birth Certificate” that Bin Ladin is killed and the news quickly shifted to that story from then on, burying the BC story.


5 posted on 07/18/2011 5:00:54 AM PDT by Federalist Society
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To: vanilla swirl
I will go to my grave not understanding how this fraud continues, How an Army Dr. went to prison over this and His Generals washed their hands of Him and they all knew as did the press, and politicians on both sides knew. The whole world knows and just because zer0 is a half breed every one elected to be responsible to the people who put them there stand idle while this fraud and his minions swing a wrecking ball at the economy, and health care system, start a war then say its not a war, ship weapons to drug kings, in another country, people are killed over this, and then lie every day to the American people about it all.
What happened to the Country? How can it survive if the elected sit ?
6 posted on 07/18/2011 5:04:16 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: RobinMasters
I have noticed a distinctly different trend in the afterbrither responses recently. They no longer even attempt to defend the various Obama “birth certificates” as being legitimate. By now it is flamingly evident that they are forgeries.

The emphasis by the Obot afterbirthers is now some variation of, “No body cares. This is hopeless. Give it up and concentrate on the issues. Who's going to hold Obama accountable? “...etc. Yes, they have used this debating point since the 2008 primaries, but now, it's the **only** argument that they have left.

Obama posted crudely made forgeries. **That** can not be defended even by the best of the Obot afterbirthers!

Well...( sigh)...Maybe God will provide us with justice this time. Who knows? I do know that there are still too many good people, living good and righteous lives, in this country who pray every day for our nation. He will not abandon us.

7 posted on 07/18/2011 5:05:20 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Federalist Society

Agreed. Like how Fast and Furious blew up and suddenly we had a debt ceiling issue that would lead to crisis....


8 posted on 07/18/2011 5:08:11 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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To: reefdiver

The GOP policy is don’t,t ask don’t tell. That is why.


9 posted on 07/18/2011 5:09:02 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: RobinMasters
As if we needed more evidence ...

But this is really a clear and well presented analysis of variations in the typefaces that could not occur if the letters examined had been produced on a single typewriter. I thought this one was particularly devastating:

That this grifter hasn't been frog-marched out of the White House yet is beyond belief.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 07/18/2011 5:26:06 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: RobinMasters

Sure it’s a forgery but the SCOTUS, CIA NSA, FBI, etc are all in on the treason,so don’t expect much help there.


11 posted on 07/18/2011 5:34:09 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: reefdiver
I will go to my grave not understanding how this fraud continues, How an Army Dr. went to prison over this and His Generals washed their hands of Him and they all knew as did the press, and politicians on both sides knew.
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I feel your pain. At any given time, depending on the article I've just read, I go from being completely flummoxed, to disappointed, to furious. Every governor, attorney general, secretary of state, legislator, judge, prosecutor, and law enforcement agency, the highest military, and the media has chosen to ignore this. UNBELEIVABLE!

There are two groups that are especially disappointing: The very highest military and the conservative media. Geeze! I trusted these guys. ( Silly me!)

As for the very highest military: The guys are IGNORING forgeries, identity theft, social security fraud, impersonating a president and Commander in Chief, and election fraud! Huh? When did this become part of the military code of honor? Is this how they defend the Constitution? Is this what they teach at West Point and the other academies? Do these guys even know for certain who they are saluting when that questionable person climbs off of Air Force One with the Wookie?

Where is the evidence that they sought peaceful and legal certifiable clarification from congress and the courts of Obama’s identity and natural born citizenship? When these guys crawl into bed at night to the pull up the covers of fraud, deceit, usurpation, and forgery to cover themselves?

When our brave, dedicated, and honorable troops salute why doesn't lightning strike? When these guys with the maximum brass meet with the families of our nation's military why don't they shrivel up in a puddle in shame?

12 posted on 07/18/2011 5:35:40 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

No body cares. This is hopeless. Give it up and concentrate on the issues.


13 posted on 07/18/2011 5:42:20 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: wintertime

Just one more shining example of how brilliant the founders of this country were.

They knew citizenship was important and if not required, some day we just might get a communist, non-citizen, black liberation follower, G-D America hater, mudslime piece of sub-human debris elected to the highest office in the land.


14 posted on 07/18/2011 5:44:25 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: raven92876

ping


15 posted on 07/18/2011 5:47:31 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

This IS THE ISSUE!


16 posted on 07/18/2011 5:49:10 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: RobinMasters

Forgery or not, this whole birth certificate is a dead-end.

One could form an airtight case that Obama is not a natural born citizen and the majority of Americans will still dismiss the claim.

It’s basic psychology. People are disinclined to believe the very worst about those whom wield the greatest power over them. The more horrible that truth might be, the less they will be inclined to believe it. The reason for this is pretty simple - to accept such horrible truths would be to accept the precarious fragility of one’s state of existence. Human beings, being creatures of habit, want to believe that our lives are stable and safe until something cataclysmic convinces us otherwise. This, incidentally, is why it takes a Pearl Harbor or a 9/11 to wake the people up to what otherwise ought to have been obvious threats.

This, incidentally, is also why people are willing to accept the Big Lie and why, when attacked most feverishly, the Big Lie can only grow stronger.

I don’t write any of this to discourage people from seeking the truth about the birth certificate - far from it. The truth matters. But I do believe that doing so too loudly and making it a focal point can only hurt us. The fact of the matter is that the majority of people will always dismiss as “fringe” even the greatest truths if they fundamentally threaten the way those people view the world.


17 posted on 07/18/2011 5:49:21 AM PDT by MWS
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To: Tex-Con-Man
No body cares. This is hopeless. Give it up and concentrate on the issues.

This IS an issue. It should not be discarded, but put into the mix of the reasons why Obama needs to go, no later than 1/20/13.

18 posted on 07/18/2011 5:51:14 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: MWS

I don’t write any of this to discourage people from seeking the truth about the birth certificate - far from it.
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Excuse me! But...Did you notice that your nose is growing?


19 posted on 07/18/2011 5:53:14 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: charlene4

See my post #17.

It absolutely SHOULD be “The Issue”... but, sadly, it never will be.

The majority of people will always accept the Big Lie over the Uncomfortable Truth. The more strongly that the truth threatens their comfortable view of the world, the more that truth is marginalized as being of the fringe.


20 posted on 07/18/2011 5:53:14 AM PDT by MWS
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To: Big Giant Head
"It's all, you know, thinking ahead thinking ahead. "


21 posted on 07/18/2011 5:55:31 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

You wish!


22 posted on 07/18/2011 5:55:38 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: exit82
This IS an issue. It should not be discarded, but put into the mix of the reasons why Obama needs to go, no later than 1/20/13.

If this is an issue with you and some others, I say...do whatever it takes or believe in whatever it takes to vote against the stain in November of 2012.......

Therefore, whether it is a huge national issue...or your personal one....if it drives you to voting to eradicate the stain in November of 2012, then I'm all for you...and the issue.

23 posted on 07/18/2011 5:56:02 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: wintertime

Knock yourself out - research and prove that the birth certificate is false to your heart’s content. I’m not discouraging that.

What I’m discouraging is thinking that it will make a practical difference short of some cataclysmic event that changes the majority of people’s fundamental opinion of Obama for the worst.

At the end of the day, people believe what they want to believe and the majority of people don’t WANT to believe that their president is illegitimate, any more than the Germans back in the 1930s wanted to believe that their rulers were genocidal monsters.

This is how tyrants have always been able to rule over otherwise decent people — people are disinclined to believe the worst of those that rule over them, even when those rulers are monsters.


24 posted on 07/18/2011 5:58:32 AM PDT by MWS
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To: MWS; Tex-Con-Man
Again.....It is now soooooo **BLAZINGLY** evident that Obama posted forgeries, even the hardest core Obot afterbirther no longer tries to defend these Internet images as legitimate. Not any more! Remember all those afterbirther posts about layering attempting to explain this or that? Gone! All those bizarre and improbable afterbirther attempts to explain the impossible are **gone**!

The robotic, knee-jerk, defending afterbirthers can't even use the “nut” half of the “nut and slut” attack any more. The forgeries Obama posted really are **that** crudely made.

The **only** argument left to the robot Obot afterbirthers is the “Give it up!” ploy.

Sorry! Not a chance. The American people understand about forgery. Have you seen the polls about this recently? Obama made things worse by posting forgeries. They are great, big, stink, hunks of road kill blocking the road to his re-election. There is NO WAY Obama can drive around that stinking mess.

25 posted on 07/18/2011 6:08:16 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Tex-Con-Man
No body cares.

I think the problem is, "everyone cares" in D.C. because most of D.C. is complicit at this point. Its all about watching elitist backsides now, not the welfare of the Country..

26 posted on 07/18/2011 6:10:06 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: MWS
Gee! That's a lot of words on the “Give it Up” debating tactic.

I am so unimpressed. Surely you could come up with something more original.

Hm? I have a suggestion! Check in with the DNC. They may have some fresh talking points to use.

By the way....you are **wrong** about the American people. The polls show that the less than half of those polled believe Obama was born in the U.S.

Obama’s in trouble and his forgeries are a big part the poop swilling around in the toilet.

27 posted on 07/18/2011 6:19:01 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RobinMasters

Is there a single document expert in the world who has declared the BC to be genuine?


28 posted on 07/18/2011 6:22:52 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o)
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To: wintertime

I’m sorry, I had accidentally mistaken you for someone capable of intelligent discussion.

My bad. Won’t happen again.


29 posted on 07/18/2011 6:23:37 AM PDT by MWS
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To: Tex-Con-Man
No body cares. This is hopeless. Give it up and concentrate on the issues.
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I was a registered nurse before I earned my doctorate in my current profession. I learned an important lesson about doctors that applies to almost all professionals. The lesson:

Professionals care **more** about the opinion that other professionals have of them than they do about the opinion of their patients or clients!

So...Honestly...Obama has posted unbelievably carelessly made forgeries. Our highest military **know** that. Our highest military **know** that the officers under them know that they know! I wonder if these guys with the maximum amount of brass are feeling uncomfortable when the troops salute? Do they feel a hotness around the collar, while all watch, when they salute the usurper climbing down from Air Force One? ( Just wondering.) If not, they are past feeling and will be major players in the coming tyranny.

30 posted on 07/18/2011 6:28:53 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: vanilla swirl
Assume for a moment that the birth certificate is proved in federal court to be a forgery. There was a time when this could have been the basis for creating a Constitutional crisis. The man who holds the office of President would have no proof that he was a natural born American citizen. Given the fact that the three branches of government, President, Congress and the Federal Judiciary are plainly willing to completely ignore the plain language of the US Constitution, does anything in the Constitution still matter?

Ever since Marbury versus Madison, people have been willing to accept lies as truth. The biggest lie, and the one that has caused most of our problems, is accepting the lie that Congress has the power to take property from anybody and give that property to somebody else.

It probably has not occurred to most Americans to even wonder where or who gave Congress the authority to create the Social Security Act, Medicare, or Medicaid. Not one of these programs is Constitutional. Think I am wrong or mistaken? Think again; here are some quotes that backup this claim:

These are reliable experts from history. Do you believe them or the people today who are committed to usurping or circumventing the Constitution?

31 posted on 07/18/2011 6:30:32 AM PDT by Vintage Freeper
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To: MWS
Wow! Personal insult. That really is scraping the bottom of the debating tactic fish tank.

I am sooooo unimpressed!!

32 posted on 07/18/2011 6:30:46 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

33 posted on 07/18/2011 6:45:10 AM PDT by MWS
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To: wintertime

It really is telling that the Folks defending the wh LFCOLB have dropped out.


34 posted on 07/18/2011 6:47:59 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Vintage Freeper
Given the fact that the three branches of government, President, Congress and the Federal Judiciary are plainly willing to completely ignore the plain language of the US Constitution, does anything in the Constitution still matter?
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Tyranny is coming. If it isn't Obama it will be a different cabal.

As I have posted previously, Obama is merely the stink in the room. The illness that will kill our nation is the gangrene of moral and spiritual rot that eating at our souls. Only prayer and repentance will save our nation!

Finally....You forgot to add our fourth and final “balance of power”to your list of corruption: Our military’s oath to defend the Constitution and its military code of honor!

Where is the evidence that our highest military peacefully and legally sought certifiable clarification from congress and the courts that Obama was a natural born citizen? Honor? What is that to these guys?

35 posted on 07/18/2011 6:49:33 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: MWS

Is that a personal insult?

Gee! I guess I too straight forward and honest in my thinking, because I don’t “get it”.


36 posted on 07/18/2011 6:51:13 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RobinMasters

The 2nd birth certificate was a forgery design to thwart the release of Corsi’s book: “Where’s the Birth Certificate”

IT worked... because the media will never question “The One”

Corsi need to release a new book “Where’s The Birth Certificate: Part 2- Obamas Latest Forgery”

Does anyone know how to contact Corsi?


37 posted on 07/18/2011 6:51:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: RobinMasters
Consider these two silhouettes:
The one on the left looks a little like one of Abe Lincoln. And the one on the right looks more like Bart Simpson! Doesn't it!

So where did these come from?

They are both inversions and enlargements (same scale) of the areas framed by the bottom part of the letters 'R' supposedly produced by the same typewriter. What a joke! The first, the Lincoln one, comes from the 'R' in Barack Obama's given name on the "birth certificate" he released on April 27, 2011. The other one, the one that looks like Bart Simpson, comes from his father's name on the same document.

ML/NJ

38 posted on 07/18/2011 7:00:46 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Triple; MWS
It really is telling that the Folks defending the wh LFCOLB have dropped out.
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It really is telling that the Folks defending the wh LFCOLB have dropped out.
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Yes! It is!

The **only** argument left to the Robot Obot Afterbirthers is the “Give it Up” argument.

And...Even the “Give it Up” strategy is getting hard for them to defend because polls clearly and plainly show that more than half the nation doubt Obama was born in the U.S. And...This is **after** Obama posted the forgeries!

The Robot-Obot Afterbirthers can NOT even use the “Nut and Slut” strategy because Obama’s forgeries were so laughably bad! Only a afterbirther nut would claim they could be legitimate!

By the way....Now that I have exposed MWS on his “Give it Up” defense of Obama, he is now reduced to personal insult. When posters need to use personal insult,...well... that really is scraping the scum off the bottom of the intellectual fish tank. :-)

39 posted on 07/18/2011 7:01:53 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: MWS
From a bit of history about THE BIG LIE:
40 posted on 07/18/2011 7:06:13 AM PDT by Vintage Freeper
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To: Wurlitzer
President Soebarka said we need to move past this silliness.
41 posted on 07/18/2011 7:07:49 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: wintertime

The anti-birther ‘layering’ explanation website and you tube videos were worse than the forgery itself.

One of them tried to show how a layer was created by showing a demo of OCR and how it removed the text and made a layer of it. It was so laughable- because it showed the security paper UNDERNEATH the letters- if the OCR software removed the letters, how did it know what was supposed to be underneath???

But the OCR argument gave them some cover long enough to make the issue calm down-

WHERE IS CORSI? DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONATC HIM? I NEED TO TALK TO HIM!!!!


42 posted on 07/18/2011 7:09:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: ml/nj
Maybe the typist was Mechanically inclined and swapped out typewriter parts as she typed?

It could happen. This is the most logical explanation.

43 posted on 07/18/2011 7:12:36 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Triple
It really is telling that the Folks defending the wh LFCOLB have dropped out.

Many FReepers on both sides of this issue have simply moved on. If you look at the eligibility threads (which seem to be fewer and fewer in number each week) it's more or less the same people posting more or less the same comments.

The issue is dead.

44 posted on 07/18/2011 7:12:44 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: RobinMasters
Before we get too excited over this, could we have some other BCs from the same time and place checked for non-matching letters? It's possible that, for instance, SOP was for the first part of the form to be filled in in anticipation of the birth and the second part later, on a different machine. I'm not saying it's so, but we need to be able to say that it's not so.
45 posted on 07/18/2011 7:26:46 AM PDT by Grut
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To: vanilla swirl
Seems some Hawaii officials are complicit in this. Now they have to cover their own backs.
46 posted on 07/18/2011 7:30:28 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Seems some Hawaii officials are complicit in this. Now they have to cover their own backs.

Your Congressman is complicit.

And that's the problem isn't it.

ML/NJ

47 posted on 07/18/2011 7:42:03 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

True, house of cards


48 posted on 07/18/2011 8:05:51 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: RobinMasters

I appreciate and support the idea that the so-called long form is problematic, but minutely examining character shapes seems a waste of time, since scanning commonly introduces distortions like this.


49 posted on 07/18/2011 8:15:56 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Vintage Freeper

The thing about the Big Lie is that it can never be tackled directly, head-on. That’s part of what makes it so insidious.

The Big Lie tends to be comfortable and convenient. Rejecting the Big Lie tends to be uncomfortable, inconvenient, and sometimes outright dangerous. People tend to choose a nice falsehood over a difficult truth. They will seize on whatever is at hand to validate themselves in sticking to that falsehood, no matter how flimsy.

That’s not a particularly hard thing to do when they are surrounded by a media and by politicians offering countless excuses and rationales for accepting that lie. It gets to the point where if you reject the lie, you get marginalized and no one takes you seriously.

When it comes to Obama, we cannot afford to be marginalized. This man is dangerous and needs to be ousted from office. We’ve got him on the ropes - there is no need to throw a political haymaker when a simple hook should do, especially when that haymaker might very well provide an opening for a counterattack should it miss.

And the birth certificate has a very strong chance of missing, even if proven to be a forgery.


50 posted on 07/18/2011 8:20:53 AM PDT by MWS
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