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Reid to offer $2.5 trillion debt deal with NO TAXES?
Zero Hedge ^ | 7/24/2011 | CNN Twitter

Posted on 07/24/2011 2:37:05 PM PDT by SDShack

Just out from CNN's Lisa Desjardins

BREAKING - NEW Dem. debt plan: Reid to offer at "least $2.5 Trillion" in deficit redux w/ no revenue increases, Dem. source tells CNN. NEW REID PLAN: "At least $2.5 T in deficit redux" w/ no revenue increases. BUT, unclear what baseline he's using and what he'd cut. REID PLAN: Dem aide tells our @tedbarrettcnn they think it meets GOP call for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts with debt increase.

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To: RummyChick

Perhaps it means fiscal cuts from their own districts - Which of course is fine by me.


41 posted on 07/24/2011 3:00:37 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: RummyChick

The freshmen should have told Boehner that they did pass a bill, and that it’s up to the Senate to do something about it.


42 posted on 07/24/2011 3:00:40 PM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: kristinn

The republicans must keep the never-passed budget a driving force for 2012.


43 posted on 07/24/2011 3:01:44 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: mwl8787

There is no way that any deal that would get through the Senate could pass the House...


44 posted on 07/24/2011 3:01:44 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: mwl8787

“The aide, speaking on condition of anonymity because the plan has not been publicly released, said the package would include up to $1.2 trillion in cuts to government agencies, including the Pentagon. It would not include tax increases, the aide said, but could include cuts to entitlement programs. It is also likely to rely heavily on savings from ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,...”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/boehner-hints-at-a-unilateral-debt-plan-geithner-shoots-down-short-term-options/2011/07/24/gIQAR0HAXI_story.html


45 posted on 07/24/2011 3:02:03 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: SDShack

I won’t believe this any more than the 129 “Boehner’s Gonna Cave” threads I’ve seen this week.

If it’s true though, then perhaps the Dems finally cracked.


46 posted on 07/24/2011 3:02:14 PM PDT by RockinRight (If we're "teabaggers" then they're "d-baggers.")
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To: kristinn
it would allow Congress to extend the debt limit through the end of next year

And help obamma's reelection campaign, since this major issue would be off the table as a campaign issue. The Pubs need to refuse to help him.

47 posted on 07/24/2011 3:02:27 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: plain talk
I think the story line for 2012 will be the Repubs are “unreasonable obstructionists” being controlled by the lunatic fringe AKA the Tea party.

I think Obama is going to raise the DC by Executive order even though it's not constitutional.

He's probably getting assurances from the Dems - especially Reid - that he won't let impeachment proceedings happen in the Senate.

48 posted on 07/24/2011 3:02:28 PM PDT by Pebcak
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl; cranked; Politically Correct

And they are cuts in planned increases in spending, not actual spending.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.


49 posted on 07/24/2011 3:02:28 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: RockinRight

They didn’t crack.

It will be redefined cuts that aren’t real, just like the CR’s 100B.


50 posted on 07/24/2011 3:03:11 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Pining_4_TX

Yep, fake cuts, Washington style.


51 posted on 07/24/2011 3:03:20 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: kristinn

That’s a pretty big capitulation from Pelosi.

It’s a lose-lose for the RATS. If they enact a real plan with real cuts, they infuriate their base.

If they enact a sham deal, we face a default and downgrade, further depressing the economy well into 2012.

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of RATS.


52 posted on 07/24/2011 3:04:17 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: RummyChick

up by 1-3%.

big day for them actually


53 posted on 07/24/2011 3:05:05 PM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: SDShack
"Haven't seen any confirmation of this yet. But if true, then maybe the Dems blinked."

This is only to give the media an anti-compromise story against the repubs when they tell Harry to take a flying flip.

54 posted on 07/24/2011 3:05:41 PM PDT by John 3_19-21
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To: SDShack
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55 posted on 07/24/2011 3:06:25 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: SDShack
Reid to offer at "least $2.5 Trillion" in deficit redux w/ no revenue increases

And Zero Hedge also said, "If true, it is probably a ten year plan with deficit cuts on the back end. IOW, no deficit cuts."

Pretty clever...

56 posted on 07/24/2011 3:06:29 PM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Long term, yes, short term, it would just be another increase in the unemployment rate and would probably hurt more than help.


57 posted on 07/24/2011 3:06:43 PM PDT by RockinRight (If we're "teabaggers" then they're "d-baggers.")
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To: kristinn

“the $1.5 trillion in cuts identified by a bipartisan group led by Vice President Joseph Biden, added to $1 trillion from ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq”

Likely what’s in mind.


58 posted on 07/24/2011 3:07:15 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: SDShack

Cuts first...no taxes later

If they cut spending why do they need a ceiling increase?

$2.5 Trillion over how many decades, Hairy?


59 posted on 07/24/2011 3:07:43 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Pebcak

Raising the debt ceiling by executive order can happen, maybe, but it’s pointless.

The FY 2011 CR expires 1 Oct. If he were to do such a thing, the House will never EVER approve FY 2012 expenditures that don’t take 500B off immediately. He would be cutting his fiscal throat, which in an election year will matter a great deal more than impeachment. He cannot . . . he simply cannot have fiscal contraction that takes 9.2% to 29% and have any chance of winning.


60 posted on 07/24/2011 3:08:27 PM PDT by Owen
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