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Super Congress: Echoes of Tyranny Rising
http://noisyroom.net/blog ^ | 7.24.11 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

Posted on 07/24/2011 4:46:45 PM PDT by Whenifhow

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To: Huck
Full story at link... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929392/posts

Even more so then Albert Nock, Garet Garrett, writing in
1938 lays it out pretty well. R and D are just useless labels that serve only the central government by keeping the populace almost evenly divided...while it has it's own agenda...one which seems to have a lot to do with imperialism and little to do with nationalism.

Not Communist...more fascist, with a corporatist twist to it.

21 posted on 07/24/2011 8:58:45 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I am a huge fan of John Quincy Adams and I am not saying that Nock was and is considered somewhat of a radical. But like Garet, he was there.

My favorite of Adams is this speech to the U.S. House of Representatives on July 4, 1821, in celebration of American Independence Day.

And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?

Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.

She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.

She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.

She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.

She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.

Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.

But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....

She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

[America’s] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.

John Quincy Adams on U.S. Foreign Policy (1821)


22 posted on 07/24/2011 9:08:11 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD

Nice.


23 posted on 07/24/2011 9:18:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Return to the strictures of the Enumerated Powers. The budget will balance.)
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To: EternalVigilance
We long ago put Washingtons' warnings on our stern...

“If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.” —
George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796

Whatever you want to say this country is...one can no longer consider it a confederation of sovereign States.

The reality is that we have become more a Social Democracy to a great extent. Tilting at windmills is all we do and probably all we can do anymore.

I agree with Professor Ortega y Gasset when he wrote about Americans,

"The unquestioning, determined, even truculent maintenance of the attitude which Professor Ortega y Gasset so admirably describes, is obviously the life and strength of the State; and obviously too, it is now so inveterate and so widespread - one may freely call it universal - that no direct effort could overcome its inveteracy or modify it, and least of all hope to enlighten it.

This attitude can only be sapped and mined by uncountable generations of experience, in a course marked by recurrent calamity of a most appalling character. When once the predominance of this attitude in any given civilization has become inveterate, as so plainly it has become in the civilization of America, all that can be done is to leave it to work its own way out to its appointed end. The philosophic historian may content himself with pointing out and clearly elucidating its consequences, as Professor Ortega y Gasset has done, aware that after this there is no more that one can do. "

24 posted on 07/24/2011 9:24:57 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Of course I liked Ross Perot...and in hindsight believe that Alan Keyes would have been a far better President then GW Bush was. In 1998 most of the posters here would have agreed with me. I think Jim Robinsons’ first gut reaction(not a good one)to Bush entering the race turned out to be prescient.
25 posted on 07/24/2011 9:42:31 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD

Perot was a pro-abort populist demagogue, not a conservative.


26 posted on 07/24/2011 9:45:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Return to the strictures of the Enumerated Powers. The budget will balance.)
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To: EternalVigilance

He was right about the giant sucking sound.

I question the the sincerity of those who say they oppose the barbaric act of abortion while ignorning politicians who year after year propose laws that would end this terrible practice. Ron Paul is one such politician. Since the religious right see his stance against the drug war as immoral, they ignore his efforts in Congress to change these laws.

Year after year he has proposed a “Sanctity of Life Act” only to find no backing from his fellow Congressman or the leadership of the Moral Majority. The Act still reads thus:

H.R. 2533:

Sanctity of Life Act of 2009
111th Congress

To provide that human life shall be deemed to exist from conception, and for other purposes.

Summary:

Sanctity of Life Act of 2009 - Deems human life to exist from conception, without regard to race, sex, age, health, defect, or condition of dependency and requires that the term “person” include all such human life. Recognizes that each state has authority to protect the lives of unborn children residing in the jurisdiction of that state . Amends the federal judicial code to remove Supreme Court and district court jurisdiction to review cases arising out of any statute, ordinance, rule, regulation, or practice, or any act interpreting such a measure, on the grounds that such measure: (1) protects the rights of human persons between conception and birth; or (2) prohibits, limits, or regulates the performance of abortions or the provision of public funds, facilities, personnel, or other assistance for abortions. Makes this Act and the amendments made by this Act applicable to any case pending on, or commenced on or after, the date of enactment.

Full Text:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-2533

This Act has been presented to the House multiple years in a row and few have even heard of it. Why is that?


27 posted on 07/24/2011 10:00:38 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD
That legislation contains a huge dog that doesn't bark: while it says states can ban abortion, it does not say that they MUST, as the explicit, imperative provisions of the Constitution require.

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

To put it simply, Ron Paul is pro-choice for states.

"[W]hile Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid."

-- Ron Paul, 'Federalizing Social Policy,' January 31, 2006


28 posted on 07/24/2011 10:08:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Return to the strictures of the Enumerated Powers. The budget will balance.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

Some might consider that Roe v Wade came about through due process of law. It had it's day in court. You might not like the outcome but the process was served.

Bad law perhaps...but then so is the Patriot Act.

As far as equal protection? Well no one is prohibited from getting an abortion. The law does not recognize that life exists as a person until some arbitrary gestation period has passed. Once again the Courts claim the ability to make such laws(regulations, in fact) based on the same reading of the commerce clause that allowed the Feds to wage a "drug war" against its own citizens.

"[W]hile Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid."

And he is right. Nothing in the Constitution gives the Feds or the Courts any power to make such laws. The use of the Commerce Clause or The Necessary and Proper Clause (also known as the Elastic Clause, the Basket Clause, the Coefficient Clause, and the Sweeping Clause)to make such law is imo, a usurption of power by the Central Government.

29 posted on 07/24/2011 10:36:55 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD
Nonsense. Due process simply means a fair trial. On a capital offense.

The first responsibility of all officers of government, at every level, in every branch, is to protect innocent human life.

And there is no longer any shadow of scientific doubt about when the physical existence of the human person begins: at the biological inception or creation of that person.

30 posted on 07/24/2011 10:47:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Return to the strictures of the Enumerated Powers. The budget will balance.)
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To: KDD
And he is right. Nothing in the Constitution gives the Feds or the Courts any power to make such laws.

Other than the supreme right, the right to life, which other unalienable rights of the people do you apply this "logic" to?

31 posted on 07/24/2011 10:49:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Return to the strictures of the Enumerated Powers. The budget will balance.)
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To: kittymyrib

You said, “The only way to kill this monster is to cut off its blood supply...money from the taxpayers. There should be some creative ideas how this can be done, but the example of the East Germans in bringing down their Communist masters holds some important clues.”

I would be very interested in learning more about that. Could you elaborate or give me a good reference to read on that?


32 posted on 07/24/2011 11:33:53 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" This phrase is commonly attributed to the Constitution, but it comes from the Declaration of Independence. The 5th Amendment does offer protections to our "life, liberty, or property," noting we cannot be deprived of any of them without due process of law.

If you think life is such an absolute unalienable right you should protest at Starke in Fl. or Huntsville in Texas every time a person is executed by the State. We are a war like people. We do not respect life as a first principle. You would have to be blind not to see that.

I myself have never had an abortion nor would I. Of course I am a man.

What it's like.

33 posted on 07/24/2011 11:52:39 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: EternalVigilance

You go ahead and stand on that hill.

I salute you...but I have my own windmills to tilt at.

A good night to you.


34 posted on 07/25/2011 12:19:32 AM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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35 posted on 07/25/2011 12:23:40 AM PDT by csense
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To: Whenifhow

This is a tremendous piece of writing.


36 posted on 07/25/2011 12:34:31 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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37 posted on 07/25/2011 12:37:42 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem

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38 posted on 07/25/2011 1:51:35 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Whenifhow

BUMP


39 posted on 07/25/2011 10:51:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Whenifhow

BUMP again.


40 posted on 07/25/2011 10:52:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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