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Won't One Brave Conservative Call for the Rich to Chip In?
Illinois Review ^ | July 25, 2011 A.D. | John F. Di Leo

Posted on 07/25/2011 12:59:54 PM PDT by jfd1776

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41 posted on 07/25/2011 1:38:52 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: unixfox
How bout a brave conservative ask the question why 50% pay NO INCOME TAX?

While you're at it, let's find out why people who pay NO income taxes receive income tax refunds (the Earned Income Tax Credit).

42 posted on 07/25/2011 1:39:30 PM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: jfd1776
I have a cousin, who at 49, the only job she has had was baby sitting others' kids. Her husband, who she met when he was a carnival worker, has worked in factories for maybe up to $13 an hour.

They have refused to pay Dr and dentist bills, because they have no insurance and no money, and cry poor about everything, and say that the government should help them because they're poor, and thats what taxes are for. Meanwhile, with an income of about $26k, with the EITC, they got a "refund" from the government for $9+k, about $5k more than they paid in.

Here it is July, 4 months after getting their "refund" they've bought ANOTHER computer, but have no money for property taxes.

They have a motorcycle, a fishing boat, 2 campers, about 4 computers, all on about $26k a year.

I work 60-70 hours a week. Pay all my bills, try to save and plan for the future, and am by NO MEANS "rich". I've never had a boat or motorcycle or camper. I'm on my second computer, after my first one died after 10 years of use

And now other people EXPECT me, or people like me, to carry others like my cousin and her family.


43 posted on 07/25/2011 1:43:41 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mnehring
Give us a number. Should the 'super rich' top 1% pay, let's say, 25% of all taxes? Maybe they should pay 30% of all taxes? How about the top 10%? Should they pay, let's say, 40% of all taxes? Maybe 50%?

Tell us, how much extra burden should they bear? Give us some numbers.

How is it that having different tax rates for different people doesn't violate the Equal Protection Clause of the U S Constitution? If everyone had some skin in the game the amount of money the government confiscated from us would be a lot less.

44 posted on 07/25/2011 1:43:41 PM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: jfd1776

I’m calling for the POOR to pitch in and pay their fair share, which while debatable is certainly greater than the nothing they pay now.


45 posted on 07/25/2011 1:43:47 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: treetopsandroofs

Read much?


46 posted on 07/25/2011 1:44:37 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nina0113

Heard on CNBC this am that Baraq set another food stamp record last month.

We’re up to 45 million.


47 posted on 07/25/2011 1:46:26 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: jfd1776

The 40-some% of the population that presently pays ZERO income taxes needs to share in the sacrifice, step up to the plate and get some skin in the game. Start at $10 a week...


48 posted on 07/25/2011 1:46:35 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: jfd1776

Nice job on this.

Ubanga’s constant whining for a “balanced approach” has cracked me up from the beginning. It’s like he’s saying, “Hey, my Democrats are going to have to get by with a little less free stuff, and so to balance it out you Republicans are going to have to pay more taxes.” LOL, yeah, that’s “balanced”.

The audacity of that freaking dope..!


49 posted on 07/25/2011 1:49:42 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jfd1776

Warren Buffet is on record as saying his secretary pays more taxes than he does.
So I call on all the very wealthy Democrats to “pitch in”, first. Demonstrate some real leadership.
The ability to pay more than one owes has always been there and yet these people do not choose that option. It’s time they did. Buffet, Soros, Bloomberg, Kerry, the Clintons, Jobs, et all.

Oh, and Warren, while you’re at it, loan your secretary your tax attorney and pay for his time. It’s the least you can do.


50 posted on 07/25/2011 1:50:28 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism is the greed of the poor and the polticians who exploit them.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Too much, thanks.


51 posted on 07/25/2011 2:02:48 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: jfd1776

Having actually read the article, I would suggest that the writer is correct. If the government just go out of the way, the rich would really do something to help the country. They would fire up the engines of growth.


52 posted on 07/25/2011 2:15:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: nascarnation

Nascarnation (or anyone else), do you know if the value received from food stamps would be considered taxable income?

I don’t know the answer, but my presumption is that it isn’t taxable. I think all government handouts should be taxed as regular income and the recipients should be required to prove certain things. Namely, a legal right to be in this country, actual legal guardianship of any kids they claim as their own, that they are 100% drug-free and nicotene free, that their application for assistance correctly reflects their cohabitation situation so they’re not collecting money while an undisclosed roommate earns enough to support them.

On a side note, would it be constitutional to limit the number of years a person can collect government assistance? Maybe require 5 years off after collecting for 7, or something like that?


53 posted on 07/25/2011 2:31:09 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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Answer: no, not taxable

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4128.pdf


54 posted on 07/25/2011 2:33:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: mnehring

Another good question to ask a liberal is what is the maximum percentage of income the government should be able to take from the people? Try and get them to state a specific percentage ... I have not encountered a single one who has given this any thought. Of those that I have pushed for an answer most will say 25%. Occationally I will get a 30%.

I then try and get them to support a constitutional amendment that would allow the government to tax up to 30% of income but no more. The vast majority of liberals I talk to support that position. Every single one of them was shocked to learn that the “rich” pay far more that in taxes already.


55 posted on 07/25/2011 2:39:54 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: mnehring

Setting him up...lol


56 posted on 07/25/2011 2:40:05 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: jfd1776

Taking more from the private sector is stupid.

Taking more from those who employ and invest is even stupider.

Tax increases get passed on to the consumer, with the economy lacking consumer demand, this is also stupid.

Time for the federal government to “chip in”.


57 posted on 07/26/2011 4:32:16 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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