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Could President Obama Invoke Amendment Number 14?
http://annem040359.wordpress.com/ ^ | July 28, 2011 | annem040359

Posted on 07/28/2011 7:14:54 PM PDT by Biggirl

What President Barack Hussein Obama’s press secretary, Jay Carney, by how he is talking, it sure sounds like the Obama White House and the Democrats are getting desperate. It is a sure sign that the Democrats with President Obama are on “the ropes”. The is should come as no surprise because it is a sign that the American people are starting to scream out to the White House, Senate, and House that ENOUGH is ENOUGH. What start with many tea party movement protests going back to early 2009, has come to this late week and the efforts to resolve the federal budget debt stalemate in Washington D.C. and the need to make the needed cuts.

Could President Obama end up invoking the USA Constitution’s 14th Amendment in regards to resolving the federal USA budget debt?

The out-of-control federal budget debt and the out-of-control federal regulations could very much be a BIG FACTOR in the upcoming 2012 USA Presidential elections.

From White House Press Secretary Jay Carney himself:

“We are also realistic. That grand bargain if you will is still on the table. The one that the Speaker of the House walked away from. And while often Republicans don’t like to admit it, they came very close to an agreement. And that agreement is still available. now, if we are not able to achieve that in the next several days, we still need — we have no other alternative, we have to take action to ensure that we do not default. And we have to take action to reduce our deficit.”


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KEYWORDS: 0bamarigged; 14thamendment; carney; obama
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Sounds like a President and a political party getting desperate.

Long title: Carney: “If We Have No Other Alternative We Will “Take Action” (Could President Obama Invoke Amendment Number 14?)

1 posted on 07/28/2011 7:15:00 PM PDT by Biggirl
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Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7BIpOMlksE


2 posted on 07/28/2011 7:16:10 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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What part of Amendment 14 empowers the President to do anything?


3 posted on 07/28/2011 7:21:29 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Biggirl

The 14th Amendment requires that debts be honored...it does not require, or give power to the President, to ignore the will of Congress in taking on NEW debt.


4 posted on 07/28/2011 7:21:36 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Biggirl

Obviously this Harvard graduate does not fully understand the Constitution. He has no idea of what the 14th. Amendment is all about. Is he truly that ignorant?


5 posted on 07/28/2011 7:24:09 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: GeronL

That part of the 14th which goes back to the right after the civil war period about paying war-related debt.


6 posted on 07/28/2011 7:24:35 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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In fact, the amendment expressly grants Congress authority over the amendment....not the president.


7 posted on 07/28/2011 7:25:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: SkyDancer

In other words, using and abusing the Constitution for your own purpose.


8 posted on 07/28/2011 7:25:57 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

He can do whatever the hell he wants. The press, Reid and Pelosi will give him cover.


9 posted on 07/28/2011 7:26:31 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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Yep, and this is why 2012 will play a big role.


10 posted on 07/28/2011 7:27:20 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SkyDancer

Perhaps he should become familiar with Section 4 of Amendment 25.


11 posted on 07/28/2011 7:28:06 PM PDT by edpc (I disagree. Circle gets the square.)
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Appears to me that the 14th amendment was adopted to address Reconstruction issues relating to the aftermath of the Civil War. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see how the "validity of the public debt" section was ever intended to be applied to outside of that context:

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

12 posted on 07/28/2011 7:29:18 PM PDT by Starboard
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Call his bluff. Let's just sit and wait for Obama do something.

Will he unilaterally adopt a "spending bill" of his own creation?
Will he unilaterally raise taxes on "the rich"?

Dictators get shot for stuff like that.

13 posted on 07/28/2011 7:30:51 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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He won’t be able to get a reputable lawyer to agree that it is legal, but then again he wasn’t able to get a reputable lawyer to agree that his War Powers Act interpretation was legal and that didn’t stop him.


14 posted on 07/28/2011 7:31:33 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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He will if he thinks he should and who's goint to stop him ? Boehner? The Fifth Estate?

This is the problem with having an untouchable affirmative action chief executive. The honor of a community agitator coupled with the ignorance of a freaking monkey.

15 posted on 07/28/2011 7:31:58 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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I copied this from ‘somewhere’.........

The 14th says “The congress shall have the power to enforce by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article”.

Geitner has repeated OVER AND OVER that there is NO 14thAmendment Option that applies here, since CONGRESS controls the purse strings as a separation of powers.


16 posted on 07/28/2011 7:32:09 PM PDT by potlatch (They that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind......)
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He can just create 2 one trillion dollar coins and fix everything:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/28/balkin.obama.options/index.html

17 posted on 07/28/2011 7:33:20 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: potlatch

You mean “turbo tax Ted” said that? Amazing.


18 posted on 07/28/2011 7:34:20 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Who would stop him?

Obama could nuke Omaha without MSM even reporting it.


19 posted on 07/28/2011 7:34:35 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Let the nation collapse. DNC vote buys killed it.)
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To: Biggirl

I don’t put anything past The Won...but I really think if he thought he could get by with he would have already done it.

Last Friday’s presser showed him to be very much in tantrum mode.


20 posted on 07/28/2011 7:35:18 PM PDT by berdie
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