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Thad McCotter To The Tea Party: Time To Grow Up
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Posted on 07/31/2011 10:32:24 AM PDT by mnehring

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To: Longbow1969

To be honest, the Republican Party hasn’t been conservative at all. Through the power of 20/20 hindsight, it is becoming pretty obvious now that the endgame is in sight that it has been the party of western European Socialism for at least 20 years and probaby much longer. If they’ve had a benevolent goal for all these years, it has been to ease us into a nanny-state socialism, with plenty of chances for corporate leaders to still make money off our labor, but with a comfortable but very well-planned existence for the rest of us who are destined to he human animals living on a farm. They will treat us well enough to make revolution unthinkable and we’ll be fed and cared for as long as we are productive. But farm animals is all we are to them.

They are much smarter than the Dems, who would herd us into communism with no plans other than “it will get better once everyone gets with the program”. Their way ends with such poverty and hopelessness that revolution becomes a strong possiblity, and that’s not good for the business of the crony capitalism, which is the only form of free enterprise the Dems champion.

So, considering the choice, I am happy that the Republicans are the smarter and kinder Marxists (and people farmers).


41 posted on 07/31/2011 11:22:29 AM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: Gene Eric

Fair enough.

IMHO he also deserves some support.

He’s got mine.


42 posted on 07/31/2011 11:23:31 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we're good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
This obsession with destroying unions won’t work, We will destroy America long before we destroy unions.

Public unions should be abolished. Period. They should not exist and have done enormous damage to this nation. When thinking about big things to turn this country around, one of the first is to outlaw all public sector unions.

Private sector unions are destroying themselves without any help. The last thing we need to do is help prop them up by denying American workers the right to a secret ballot when it comes to whether they want to join a union. And under absolutely no circumstances should American taxpayers be bailing out irresponsibly managed union pension funds.

Somewhere between the first step of destroying America, and the second step of destroying unions - America’s economy will collapse and we will be replaced utterly, by the People’s Republic of China. Which is ironically - history’s single largest LABOR UNION.

Had labor unions in the manufacturing sector acted more responsibly (and had management treated them more adversarially instead of cozying up to them) we would be competing much more effectively with overseas competition today.

I am not entirely anti-union. There does have to be a balance between labor and management, but American unions have long ago ceased being anything more than a far left lobby group living off the dues of the workers it is supposed to represent.

McCotter’s not a union toady.

Well, I think some of the positions he takes is all the proof one needs. But yeah, I know he's a rep from Michigan and congresscritters aren't perfect in their attempts to represent their districts. Still, come on now, you know he has absolutely no chance to win the nomination. No candidate that ever supported Card Check is going to win the GOP anytime soon. Even George McGovern opposes Card Check!

43 posted on 07/31/2011 11:24:01 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: crosshairs
Yeah, all of these guys just LOVED the Tea Party when they were giving them the majority in the House. Now, not so much.

The Tea Party hasn't changed. They want the spending to stop. I guess these guys in charge didn't think the Tea Party candidates actually meant what they were saying.

44 posted on 07/31/2011 11:26:34 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

In context of the article, what are you supporting? You realize McCotter is disparaging the TEA Party in his statements, don’t you?


45 posted on 07/31/2011 11:26:56 AM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: Gene Eric

He’s attempting to be a go-between. A hobbit liaison.

I think. Can’t speak for the guy, but that’s what it seems.

He’s a refreshingly blunt speaker. Not given to pc syrup - if he’s saying “grow up”, it’s like you would say to a sibling.

Seriously I think everyone’s a bit too quick to find fault with McCotter. I believe he’s one of the good guys.


46 posted on 07/31/2011 11:30:46 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we're good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: mnehring

Okay, Thad, that’s it. You just lost a vote from your home state.


47 posted on 07/31/2011 11:33:51 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Well at least until you calm with the anti-TEA talk.


48 posted on 07/31/2011 11:35:15 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Bryanw92
To be honest, the Republican Party hasn’t been conservative at all.

No, it hasn't. When people howl about how the GOP is full of RINO's now, I wonder what period of history they are hearkening back to when the Republican party was supposedly conservative.

The modern Republican party, at least for the last 75 years or so, has been the go-along, get-along party. It is more conservative than the Democrats, but since WW2 has basically accepted (sometimes grudgingly) the premise that an expanding social welfare state was an ideal goal. The GOP of the 60's and 70's was downright liberal compared to today. Just look at the stuff Richard Nixon was pushing (universal healthcare, EPA, price controls, etc).

If they’ve had a benevolent goal for all these years, it has been to ease us into a nanny-state socialism, with plenty of chances for corporate leaders to still make money off our labor

I think you give them too much credit to be honest. Their primary goal has been getting elected. The left and their media allies had shaped the battlefield so comprehensively for so long that just stopping some of the worst liberal Democratic impulses was the only goal they really had.

With the rise of the new media, the left no longer has a stranglehold on the information the citizenry gets. This, and the ability to communicate and organize with ease, has allowed the Tea Party and movement conservatives to drive the Republican party further and further to the right. If we keep pushing, if sites like FR continue to stay active, if we continue challenging the establishment that is always looking to hold on to theirs gains - if we do those things the Republican party might, for perhaps the first time in its existence, become a genuine conservative party.

49 posted on 07/31/2011 11:39:40 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: sauropod

You should care because his name has lots of consonants in it and we should all exercise our left brain, or is it right brain? And also because he is running somewhere for president of the US. So there.


50 posted on 07/31/2011 11:39:43 AM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: Waywardson

>>>>> “ National Right to Work called him “Big Union’s Manchurian Candidate ”. <<<<<

I think your factoid deserves repeating.


51 posted on 07/31/2011 11:41:13 AM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: mnehring

Can somebody explain the hobbit reference? Hobbits were the true heroes of Tolkien’s trilogy. I found references to a WSJ editorial that called Tea Bag congressmen hobbits, and apparently McCain picked it up. By why call them hobbits?


52 posted on 07/31/2011 11:45:58 AM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

He and Boehner invite the scorn for the ridicule they espouse notwithstanding any commitment and affection you have for the congressmen.


53 posted on 07/31/2011 11:48:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: mnehring

The TEA Party are the grown ups. The only ones.


54 posted on 07/31/2011 11:48:58 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Actually, he’s running for president.

Much like Santorum, Paul, Gingrich and Huntsman, he's pretending to run for president. They have as much chance as you or me.

55 posted on 07/31/2011 11:52:08 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: mnehring
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (Mich.), a Republican presidential candidate,

A Who McWhatnow??

I'd sooner vote for Vinnie McBarbarino.

56 posted on 07/31/2011 11:53:09 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
This obsession with destroying unions won’t work, We will destroy America long before we destroy unions.

John Kasich, Scott Walker and I disagree. Unions are incredibly vulnerable right now and it's time for the death blow.

57 posted on 07/31/2011 11:57:07 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: central_va

They’re called rinos for not being conservative. I think we’re about to the point of just going ahead and calling them republicans. It’s becoming fashionable for republicans to be anything but conservative.


58 posted on 07/31/2011 11:59:29 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: gitmo
Tea Bag

Excuse me?

59 posted on 07/31/2011 12:01:03 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: gitmo
Can somebody explain the hobbit reference? Hobbits were the true heroes of Tolkien’s trilogy. I found references to a WSJ editorial that called Tea Bag congressmen hobbits, and apparently McCain picked it up. By why call them hobbits?

Why call them "Tea Bag congressmen"?

60 posted on 07/31/2011 12:09:44 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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