Skip to comments.Did the GOP get 98 % of what it wanted? [According to Boehner, they did]
Posted on 07/31/2011 7:54:54 PM PDT by Right Wingnut 2
...I just spoke with a House GOP lawmaker who told me he intends to vote no on the compromise. This lawmaker was present on the GOP conference call and quoted Speaker Boehner as saying both We got 98 percent of what we wanted and that The minority leaders on board, which prompted this lawmaker to ask: Really? Nancys cool with only 2 percent? Shes that stupid?...
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If solving the debt is a marathon, this bill moved us ten feet forward. Maybe.
He meant 98% of what the RINOs were willing to settle for.
This deal is a Ramadan gift to Obama from McConnell and Boehner. Disgusting.
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Source on the GOP call says no one on the conference call so far is opposed
1 hour ago
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From a House GOPer: “GOP has surrendered on (eliminating) health care law...revenue and Medicaid is walled off in sequestration.”
24 minutes ago
“If the Super Committee fails to pass a balanced deal, President Obama will be able to veto an extension of the Bush tax cuts, which expire on the same day the mandatory spending cuts will go into effect.”
So the “mandatory spending cuts” don’t even start until Jan. 1, 2013.
The Democratic line is that without raising the debt limit, we will continue to face crisis in the future.
If I run up my credit card to beyond my ability to pay, increasing my credit limit doesn’t lessen the amount of effort it takes to balance my budget. The tough tasks in deciding what to reduce are increased in magnitude and number.
The really scarey thing is that most liberals really, truly, believe that the debt will never be paid off, nor will they ever be made accountable to answer for it, so they really don’t understand or value any reason to address the issue.
Really Boehner? 98%? Did they repeal 98% of Obamacare? Coward.
Serious question: Is there something else going on with him that nobody’s telling us (some kind of personal “issue”)?
This is beyond bizarre.
I am done with the GOP
remember the rumors about him having an affair??
he might be blackmailed.
>> He pulled the number “98%” out of his wazoo aperture.
...with his teeth. Well, why not use his teeth to extract it, his head was up there already anyhow...
Have you ever tried to stop a freight train?
When have we ever had any conditions tied to a debt limit increase?
From the beginning it was “How do we cave in a way where we can claim we didn’t.”
GOP.. I mean conservatives got nothing in this deal as far I have know.
1. Debt ceiling raises pst next election (BAD)
2. No real spending cuts (BAD)
3. Debt Commission/SuperCongress will be able to recommend tax hikes and if Congress doesn’t they slash defense and medicare - giving Congress cover to raise taxes(BAD) (not to mention Constitutionally questionable)
So.... what did we get from this deal??
We came in with a new congress and get this Turd as speaker,How in the hell did this happen? It had to be planned to control the Conservative Reps,Infuriating!
I am putting my effort into the state GOP. The GOP controlled states are the only part of the party doing anything now.
No, this may be true. Remember what the GOP wants and what Americans want aren’t the same.
If Congress doesn’t act they will raise taxes?? or slash defense and medicare.
How will that motivate Democrats??
The can raise taxes and plunge us into another total long lasting depression that will last a generation. Sounds like a winning election strategy.
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and defense consume almost every penny of current revenue. We’re borrowing to pay for the interest on the debt and the rest of government functions. What would you cut?
Here’s hoping it gets voted down, Bonehead is a socialist asshole!
10 percent a year, every year.
If they vote for this, the GOP is asking to be blackmailed by the debt commission. Tax hikes or cut defense/medicare.
It’s that simple. They know exactly where this is going.
Not the answer. We have to build on what we did the last election. We need to elect more tea party candidates. Go after the rinos with challenges in the primarys to get rid of them. Let’s build the GOP with more conservatives. Get a super majority in the senate to go along with the house. Obama will be history with any republican being better than him. Down will go Obamacare and we will be able to get a bba passed by the states.
This agreement reflects basic framework of the Budget Control Act. I will wait and get clarification from the CBO score, however at this time I believe this is a good plan for the American people. There aren't any tax hikes and there isn't a clean raising of the debt limit. It is focused on real spending cuts of the federal government with draconian stop-gap measures to ensure we enact those spending cuts. A balanced budget amendment to the states is also a part of the agreement, which is a huge victory for Americans.
5000 Years Ago, Moses Said To Israel, "Pick Up Your Shovels,Mount Your Asses And Camels, And I Will Lead You To The Promised Land."
When Welfare Was Introduced, Roosevelt Said, "Lay Down Your Shovels, Sit On Your Asses, And Light Up A Camel, This Is The Promised Land."
Today The Government Has Stolen Your Shovel, Taxed Your Asses, Raised The Price Of Camels And Mortgaged The Promised Land To China.
Unless and until Obamacare is repealed or defunded (or an ATTEMPT made, at least) I will summarily dismiss any GOP fundraising efforts.
I’ve been thinking this the entire time.
Boehner opening his mouth claiming we got 98% was absurdly stupid. Almost as dumb as “We’ll pass CCB, but we need a backup plan incase the Dems don’t like it”.
We have a pathetic, incompetant negotiator doing our work for us int he house. This is disgraceful.
Bonehead and Mitchy insured
K street got its taypayer funds flowing until 2012 !
Which means they're never going to happen. What a complete joke.
Na the 98% is a baseline number, the real world number would have been 10% of what we wanted. But we only live in the real world and not the baseline world.
Hey Allen West......John McCain was a war hero too.
this deal should be canned.
In a word, rolled.
I don’t like the part about NOT eliminating obamacare. That is the one thing we absolutely must stop in it’s tracks. I’m not happy that even conservatives are not mentioning the health care nation-killer any more. Are they just going to let it become permanent? If so, we are done as a nation.
Senator Russ Johnson (R-WI) sounded quite negative, and he’s not a total Tea Partier. If he doesn’t like it, I’m thinking it’s a bad deal
Give or take 98%.
Seriously though, Boehner and the GOP caucus did get what they wanted. They made it clear from day one that the main thing they were after was a two to three TRILLION dollar increase in their ability to borrow and spend, same as Obama. All the bickering has only been over who gets what political cover.
I'm thinking that they aren't realizing that in fact, though, to every American with a brain and eyeballs, they are ALL standing buck naked.
Shoot, I'm even hearing the usually politically ignorant pronouncing a pox on both their houses in the coffee shops.
I sent a “VOTE NO!” email to my rep already.
NOTHING on the front end makes this a no-go. minimum $100 billion in the first year...
....bear in mind, these are not "cuts" as one would normally use the word in English...they are reductions in the RATE of government growth.
In MY HOUSE, when we do a "cut" it means we spend LESS than the previous year. It's the same in your house and in every business in the USA.
We should assume ALL politicians are Socialists, until they prove otherwise.
My tally is that approximately 526 congressmen and senators have either through votes or stated support come in on the side of borrowing and spending an additional two to three TRILLION dollars.
Nine have refused to support raising the debt ceiling.
Give or take a couple, maybe. But the bottom line is that almost all have sided AGAINST We the People and our posterity.
Doesn’t Boehner drink?
Doesn’t Boehner think of Pelosi as a friend?
Don’t we think Boehner should be replaced as Speaker?
Have you seen any information on just how much is cut next year? I heard Rep Chaffetz say on TV that the cuts next year are 4B?
Next year is all that matters. Anything past that can and will be changed.
So, basically, Boehner and McConnell land the rest of the GOP just handed Obama 2400B in exchange for Obama handing them 4B back and promising them a meaningless vote on a BBA. In fact, a vote that will help dems. Some of these red state dems like Nelson, McCaskill, Tester will now vote yes to pretend like they care knowing the whole time it won’t get the 67 needed. According to my math Obama 2400-4 is 2396. So Obama comes out $2,396,000,000,000 ahead of where he was this morning. Not too shabby for a day’s work. The GOP got cuts that = less than 1/4 of 1% of the total new spending they just authorized. Way to go, guys. It’s like if someone offered to give you $100 in exchange for a nickel. Obama ends up getting more than 99% of what he wanted.
And that’s just what we know now. Just wait until a couple weeks from now when we find out the real truth like we did back in April over the CR deal and how Boehner’s unprecedented 38B in cuts ended up being 350M in cuts. When all is said and done we’ll be lucky to get 1B in cuts next year.
This was just frustrating. Not one time in anyone in GOP leadershp stand up and call Obama and the dems out on their lies about the Aug 2 date and the default. Not once did anyone say “there won’t be a default, they’re all lying to you, and they know it”. Not once did anyone really explain the whole baseline budgeting deal and how now actual spending is being cut, we’re just increasing spending by a slightly lesser amount. Not once did anyone say “time is up, we’re out of money, the spending stops now”.
Not once did anyone take a stand and demand an end to it.
To get up and say as PM Thatcher once did:
if spending money like water was the answer to our country’s problems, we would have no problems now. If ever a nation has spent, spent, spent and spent again, ours has. Today that dream is over. All of that money has got us nowhere but it still has to come from somewhere. Those who urge us to relax the squeeze, to spend yet more money indiscriminately in the belief that it will help the unemployed and the small businessman, are not being kind or compassionate or caring. They are not the friends of the unemployed or the small business. They are asking us to do again the very thing that caused the problems in the first place. We have made this point repeatedly.
Just a huge missed opportunity.
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