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Fox Lineup | 8/12/11

Posted on 08/12/2011 11:15:42 AM PDT by pabianice

Stephen Spielberg has remade "Jurrasic Park" for TV. It starts in September. It is described as a tree-hugger version of a time-travel story (Earth's atmosphere becomes so polluted that people have to flee back in time 85 million years.) An updated Robinson family (per "Lost in Space") is described as the main characters.

The trailers look like outtakes from "Jurrasic Park." My question: does this thing have a chance at "something over $4M" per episode?


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1 posted on 08/12/2011 11:15:44 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

*shrug* I’ll watch it.

Who could resist watching tree-huggers get eaten by dinosaurs?


2 posted on 08/12/2011 11:30:41 AM PDT by null and void (Day 932. The mob is decisive when the law is not.)
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To: pabianice
Earth's atmosphere becomes so polluted that people have to flee

That's all I need to know. Scratch this off of the "to watch" list.

Too bad

3 posted on 08/12/2011 11:31:30 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: pabianice

Oh darn. Until I read the premise, I thought maybe it would be a “Lost” replacement.


4 posted on 08/12/2011 11:41:03 AM PDT by bayareablues
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To: pabianice
He's certainly been busy on TV lately... I really got into "Falling Skies," although I'm pissed that I get to wait until next summer to see the rest of the cliffhanger!

Mark

5 posted on 08/12/2011 11:45:10 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: pabianice

From Wikipedia for the Cretaceous period: Mean atmospheric O2 content over period duration ca. 30 Vol %[1]
(150 % of modern level)
Mean atmospheric CO2 content over period duration ca. 1700 ppm[2]
(6 times pre-industrial level)
Mean surface temperature over period duration ca. 18 °C[3]
(4 °C above modern level)


6 posted on 08/12/2011 11:45:15 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Puppage
Of course, because fleeing back into the past 85 million years is so much easier technologically (and morally) than just staying to do the hard work of cleaning up your environment.

The show would probably be more beliveable if it was about a long duration scientific expedition (hence bring along the kids) that gets marooned unexpectedly (e.g., the regular shipments of supplies stop coming through the time portal, communications go unanswered, don't know why, etc.). Faced with the prospect of being there forever, the family begins to adapt to its changed circumstances...etc.

But taking that approach would eliminate liberal Mr. Speilberg’s opportunity to moralize and we can't have that now, can we?

7 posted on 08/12/2011 11:50:35 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: pabianice

My general reaction on watching the trailers is:

“Get the hook!”


8 posted on 08/12/2011 11:51:31 AM PDT by Ole Okie (!!)
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To: Puppage
Of course, because fleeing back into the past 85 million years is so much easier technologically (and morally) than just staying to do the hard work of cleaning up your environment.

The show would probably be more beliveable if it was about a long duration scientific expedition (hence bring along the kids) that gets marooned unexpectedly (e.g., the regular shipments of supplies stop coming through the time portal, communications go unanswered, don't know why, etc.). Faced with the prospect of being there forever, the family begins to adapt to its changed circumstances...etc.

But taking that approach would eliminate liberal Mr. Speilberg’s opportunity to moralize and we can't have that now, can we?

9 posted on 08/12/2011 11:52:38 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Please excuse the double post. The Internet link is slow today.


10 posted on 08/12/2011 11:56:50 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: MarkL
I really got into "Falling Skies,"

I call it the "John Kerry" show since it flip-flops so much. Some of it I think is really good, some is beyond horrible. I thought the cliff hanger was beyond stupid.

11 posted on 08/12/2011 11:56:55 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: pabianice

It will fail.

I anticipate that it will look stunning in high definition, it is less likely to have good actors and is unlikely to have good writing.

If they manage to get everything in line and produce a show that I like, they will cancel it. It is an ongoing thing I have with the networks.


12 posted on 08/12/2011 12:01:39 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Captain Rhino
The show would probably be more beliveable if it was about a long duration scientific expedition (hence bring along the kids) that gets marooned unexpectedly (e.g., the regular shipments of supplies stop coming through the time portal, communications go unanswered, don't know why, etc.). Faced with the prospect of being there forever, the family begins to adapt to its changed circumstances...etc.

You just described "Stargate: Universe," which failed spectacularly and ended abruptly after one season too many.

13 posted on 08/12/2011 12:14:48 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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You have me there. Never got into Stargate spinoffs.


14 posted on 08/12/2011 12:31:12 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: pabianice
40 episodes of SGU. Two seasons by SyFy’s count.
15 posted on 08/12/2011 12:36:41 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes. Canceled two seasons too late.


16 posted on 08/12/2011 12:48:28 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: pabianice

The show would not get a go ahead if the financials did not make sense. Foreign markets no doubt like the show due to compelling visuals and a cast that will reach beyond traditional American characters. Foreign distribution deals are no doubt already arranged and will defray a significant portion of the production costs. Story and script quality are another matter.


17 posted on 08/12/2011 1:05:43 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: pabianice
My question: does this thing have a chance

Only if it has nude women.......

18 posted on 08/12/2011 1:13:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: pabianice

I kept waiting for them to kill off Lou Diamond and other Colonel. The story actually started to get good the last two episodes - they all went into suspended animation capsules and shut up - except the kid who was left alone.


19 posted on 08/12/2011 1:40:19 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: pabianice

The problem is it would never work...Much like the Back to the Future movies, they will change things so much when they go back in time that they will destroy the planet before they are born and everyone on the show will just dissapear “Vanished from existance” to quote Doc Brown.


20 posted on 08/12/2011 2:10:40 PM PDT by bayoung18
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21 posted on 08/12/2011 2:12:42 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: pabianice

Maybe it will at last explain how human footprints appeared with dino prints . . . .


22 posted on 08/12/2011 2:41:18 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: null and void

The Dinasaurs will be smarter and wiser than the people.
And there will be a gay T Rex{Just Kidding}
I think I will give this one a pass.


23 posted on 08/14/2011 3:21:00 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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Who needs TV when you've got T Rex?


24 posted on 08/14/2011 3:27:50 PM PDT by null and void (Day 934. The mob is decisive when the law is not.)
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To: pabianice

I watched tonight’s series premiere and it was pretty much as I imagined it would be.

However, did you happen to catch a glimpse of the Obama money in the first half of the show? Yes indeed...it seems that by 2149 Obama has made it onto US currency. You can see him in all his monetary glory when the Jim character pays the bribe to get his baby daughter who is being hidden in a backpack.

Regards,


25 posted on 09/26/2011 7:22:54 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: VermiciousKnid
This show just begged for mutlichannel audio so I could turn off the @#($(@ background music. During the scene at the Stargate time rift thingy, I had to turn on closed captioning so I could see what the actors were saying. Apparently the sound director gets paid per decibel.

My overall rating: meh!

The special effects were good, but I just really didn't get into the characters. I had the same feeling I did when watching Jurassic Park: the the dinosaurs were more three dimensional than the people. I would have probably thrown my shoe at the TV if I had seen the Obama money.

A book series of similar topic with one way time travel into the past which I would love to see filmed is Julian May's Saga of Pliocene Exile.

26 posted on 09/27/2011 7:38:02 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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they jump into the past... bring loads of futuristic weapons... and what do they use on the BIG carnivorous dinosaurs? sonic weapons and trank guns. nothing lethal.

such pc crap.

on the bright side, a bunch of people were munched in the episode... yet not one dinosaur (can’t even kill fictional, deceased, killer animals)

and of course... only the women were intelligent. all the men were half a step above neanderthals... the male children were emotional tools, and the only father figure had no respect from his children.

tone down the pc garbage, start killing the monsters trying to eat you, allow men to have half a clue... and maybe it’ll have a chance


27 posted on 09/27/2011 10:00:06 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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However, did you happen to catch a glimpse of the Obama money in the first half of the show?

Now I've gotta go back and check that - figures Obama would be on money that's worthless.

28 posted on 09/27/2011 12:36:06 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: sten

Someone should have read “A Gun for Dinosaur” and “A Sound of Thunder.” Two great short stories that will be read 100 years from now. Terra Nausea will quickly slide into deserved oblivion and be a question on a Friday bar drinking pop quiz in ten years: “Who was Clinton Spillsbury?”


29 posted on 09/27/2011 1:20:08 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: VermiciousKnid
Since one of my grandsons is crazy about dinosaurs I had to watch it to keep up with him.

Leader of the pack (why is he only a Colonel?) talking to the ex-cop, "We were sent back to get it right."

Had to smile at this line as it is a favorite opener for me whenever I encounter a reincarnation believer who says, "We keep getting re-incarnated until we get it right." My questions, "OK. Sounds good. But, who decides what "it" is? And who decides when we get "it" right?

So, no mention of what "it" is in Terra Nova or when they will get "it" right.

And apparently, they are off on the wrong foot as there are the evil "Sixers" who are the non-conformists, antagonists, warring, faction that managed to get through the portal. It explained what a "Sixer" was, something about the sixth group or travelers, but it didn't quite make sense. So, I'll just call them "climate change deniers."

And speaking of getting off on the wrong foot, the ex-cop "married to a woman" doctor(how refreshing that traditional marriage is still the norm in the year 2149) , is despised by his 16 year old son for having a third, unauthorized child. But same son is OK with his Mom who might have had a small part in that family planning decision.

Basic review from me is that the brief, infrequent, action scenes with the dinosaurs were quite good.

However, the story line sucks more than a 440Volt Industrial Strength Dyson vacuum on steroids.

Only two ways this can go. New writers or some fossil fuel and a match.

30 posted on 09/27/2011 1:53:49 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Obama - Wear The Fail!)
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To: N. Theknow
there are the evil "Sixers" who are the non-conformists, antagonists, warring, faction

You care to take any bets how long it will be before they're compared to the Tea Party?

31 posted on 09/27/2011 4:55:57 PM PDT by twhitak
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Shocked outrage. That’s how a liberal I know reacted to the premier of Terra Nova. They changed the channel, that’s how awful it was to them. 2145, and there, on the sign, is a representation of an ‘ideal’ family, a man, a woman, and two children. How could it be, over a hundred years into the future, and yet gay marriage still isn’t accepted.

Maybe that was just a bone tossed towards conservatives whom they figured would be ticked off about the show, I don’t know, but I’m going to have to watch the next episode just for that, as she busily works her contacts to boycott the show and ‘send that homophobic trash off the air.’

Though, biggest laugh came today, when my daughter noted, ‘Dinosaurs 6, people 0. And by the end of the season, it’ll be dinosaurs 120, people 1, but only because they failed to save it.’


32 posted on 09/27/2011 11:30:39 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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