Skip to comments.Ron Paul Is A Crackpot
Posted on 08/13/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by chatter4
Great video, well worth hearing. Ron Paul's remarks about Iran, followed by commentaries of Levin, Rush and Beck all in one place.
why? Because he didn’t threaten to nuke Iran immediately upon his election? Sometimes the truth hurts.
Ron Paul knows the constitution.
Evidence suggests he is an anti-semite.
Paul has no chance of winning the nomination and he should be banned from any future debates since he takes time away from other candidates who are serious, and potential, candidates.
His supporters are even worse. Go check out Ron Paul forums and read the slime these people spout - sometimes you’d think you were on DU or Daily KOS. The anti-war, drug legalization stuff mixed with Federal Reserve conspiracy theories are beyond bizarre.
Ron Paul is a libertarian. He brings absolutely nothing to the Republican party. Virtually none of his supporters will actually vote for the actual GOP nominee. The ones who actually understand what Paul stands for will vote for the Libertarian candidate, and the rest (most of the college mushheads) will vote for Obama.
The very best thing that could happen would be for Paul to be honest, leave the GOP and run as a libertarian. At least then his supporters would be doing us a favor of depriving Obama of the ignorant pot head, peacenik “youth” vote.
This is news?
Paul is a major distraction in the debates. He is wasting the time of other candidates who have to comment on his crackpot views.His son should get the old fool to get off the stage. Other candidates should refuse to participate in any later debate that includes Paul.
IF FR had a “like” button, I’d use it for your post.
No, because he isn't a conservative. He does not belong in the Republican party.
Paul is just using the Republican label because he knows no one would pay any attention to him as a Libertarian. Every other Republican primary candidate will endorse the eventual GOP nominee (and it won't be Paul), but Ron Paul likely won't and his supporters will end up voting Libertarian or for Obama.
Go away Ron Paul, go back to the Libertarian party where you belong.
You are dead on here. Paul is only running as a Republican because the Libertarian party is a joke. He has no business in the debates or the GOP primary. He is just using them for a platform to promote his stupidity.
Most here on FR wont even listen to anything positive about RP. They hate him because they’ve drank the neocon cool-aid and don’t even realize it. I voted for him in the last primary.
There are two unwritten rules here.
1. You can’t like RP.
2. You can’t ever say anything bad about Israel.
Other than that, feel free to speak your mind.
Here in Austin, it is common to see “911 Inside Job” and Ron Paul bumper stickers. The cars are usually beat up pieces of crap driven by mutilated freaks.
They are sick puppies without exception.
All the way.
I like everything he says but being a purist ain’t gonna get you along in the world.
I don’t hate RP. He appears to be a good guy. However, he is a delusional about foreign policy and boarders on anti-semitism frequently.
duh why don’t you just say you don’t like Ron Paul
“Paul is a major distraction in the debates.”
I agree, and at the risk of annoying some, I think the same thing about Herman Caine.
I don’t know how they set the criteria for these things and I admit it would be a difficult task.
But hopefully as things move along some of these folks will start to be excluded.
I do like Rand Paul so much, but his father really comes across like a crackpot. LOL, that is really the exact word for him. A nice old fashioned word for a crazy person.
Maybe he’s not actually a crazy person, but he sure comes across like one.
And I grew up in NYC so believe me, I know from crazy people. I’ve actually been in the Bellevue hospital psych ward. Luckily for me, as a visitor!
Ross Perot with a better haircut.
Thank you for your kind reply. I respect your opinion because of the civility you showed in expressing it. My opinion differs from yours but I am grateful we can have a civil exchange about the subject.
Truth liberates. Stupid hurts.
The big problem with Ron Paul’s proposed policy is that if every tin-pan dictator had a nuke, this world would be a much more dangerous place than it is. If Iran gets the bomb, then the Saudis will need one, the Syrians will need one, the Egyptians will need one, Turkey will need one, Libya will need one, and every other dictatorship in the region will need one. Eventually, one of them will use it. If they all have nukes, then we will be looking fondly on the time when the ME was only a powder keg, because we will be looking at Armageddon. And the fact that we made it thru the Cold War without a nuclear disaster is not very convincing. We came very close on several occasions, and it was not an isolationist policy that got us thru the danger.
See any disconnect in the majority of the Republican party and traditional conservative values? Your GOP goddess Ann Coulter now sits on the GOProud board.
So, where are the true conservatives?
That would be cool.
Every car I’ve seen sporting a “Paul” sticker also had “9/11 Was An Inside Job” and assorted crazy “Aliens Are Real!” stuff.
I don’t want the King of the Crackpots in the WH.
See my post #27!
Ron Paul frequents the Alex Jones show. The guy who works next to me absolutely loves both Alex Jones and Ron Paul. I found out thru him that many Ron Paul drones don’t vote in the general election because like all past Ron Paul for President endeavors, Ron Paul looses and doesn’t win a single state’s primary.
So, let’s just withstand his drones for one more election cycle but keep educating them in the meantime.
Personally, I've washed my hands of the whole affair, but I still focus on placing the right bets in order to at least enjoy a prosperous future.
If this country ever really embraced reform, it would destroy my existing portfolio. But, I sleep well at night knowing that your opinion is shared by those who control the political process.
Therefore, and I tell this to everyone, bet on the status quo. That means ever larger gov't, ever larger deficits, ever larger debt. That means currency devaluation, inflation (commodities, not leveraged instruments ie mortgages) and social unrest. That in turn means greater police power, which means more profits for suppliers - both military & domestic.
Once again, I must thank you for clarifying the issues. Nothing is worse than uncertainty - it makes for poor investment planning, and ultimately, a chitty, impoverished life.
“Evidence suggests he is an anti-semite.”
Curious as to what that evidence is. Because he would cut off foreign aid to all countries including Israel?
“Ron Paul Is A Crackpot”
And the Pope’s catholic
Apparently RP is too stupid to see that.
1. You cant like RP.
Ron Paul is libertarian, not a conservative. This is a conservative forum.
I know Paulbots get angry when they can't spam forums with nonsensical, conspiratorial nonsense, but this just isn't the place for a bunch of libertarian drivel. It's bad enough I have to deal with paulspam on even the weather and gaming forums I frequent, so thank God paulbots get some push back here and can't spam at will without being called on it.
Paul is one of those who live in the shadow of Obama, 10% facts 90% nonsense. His supporters grasp onto the 10% and ignore the 90% hyperbole and rhetoric.
Obama and Paul are on opposite ends of the teeter-totter trying to rock everyone else in between.
He’s an empty suit.
Ron Paul isn’t at all concerned about Islamic nations joining the nuclear club because he believes “mutually assured destruction” (MAD) will prevent a nuke disaster in the U.S., just like it did during the Cold War. This of course ignores a couple of facts -— 1) cult-crazed Islamics (like the Iranian mullahs and their puppet Ahmadinejad) don’t have the same self-preservation instincts as our old Soviet foes; and 2) the great potential for nuclear arms to end up in the possession of terrorist orgs. The Cold War doctrine of “MAD” doesn’t apply in these circumstances, obviously. In the era of Islamic fanaticism combined with advanced nuclear tech, the type of isolationism RP advocates is suicidal.
What about “Global Warming” Newt Gingrich ?
Is he a conservative? Lots of people on here like Newt
Talk about crackpots. Newt’s a big one.
What about mcCain? Lots of people on here liked him 3 years ago. Is he conservative?
Why about pro-abortion Romney ? Is he conservative? He leads some polls.
Rational debate requires the debaters to rise above disparaging comments and childish name calling. I sense that such debate may be above you.
Err, your welcome...
Was there something in my post you were actually disputing, or was this just a not so cleverly disguised (yet extremely whiny) post in defense of Ron Paul?
That geography no longer represents a serious obstacle to our enemies, and to the extent that Paul's isolationism continues to reflect the geopolitical realities of 1787, he is, indeed, a crackpot. But that does not change his Constitutional soundness.
If you can't see that alcohol and drug prohibition have done tremendous violence to our liberty -- while accomplishing virtually nothing to reduce consumption -- I have nothing more to say to you. I'm not a (L/l)ibertarian but I believe the "Drug War" is stupid, expensive, has bloated the government, robbed us of our freedom, and is ultimately counterproductive.
It needs to go away.
The Fed must be brought to heel, or it must be destroyed. Paul is simply NOT wrong about that. And it is good to hear there are actual conservatives now voicing many of the same opinions.
Libertarianism is an important component of the Republican party and is the source of a great many ideas (some good, some not) and energy (some good, some not.) Not all of Paul's supporters are going to vote for 0bama or for the Libertarian Party. Nevertheless, I would much rather have liberatarian influences in my Party than the influences of, say, the Maine Ladies or John McCain.
Rational debate to paulbots = spamming every forum they can find with a bunch conspiratorial nonsense.
Come on guys, at least stay off the sporting, gaming and weather forums. Nothing worse than going to forums to follow the news on the NFL training camps or a newly forming tropical depression and having to sort through a bunch of paulspam.
Yeah, well, it seems the conservatives don't belong there either, if the Republican voting record is any indication.
Actually, it's a Republican forum. Conservatives don't favor big government.
Actually, it's a Republican forum. Conservatives don't favor big government.
But there are some here who realize it, and in fact push the neocon Kool-aid.
How the neocons shills come suddenly crawling out of the woodwork making frenzied attempts to marginalize Ron Paul at the very mention of his name!
Their overreaction reminds me of something Winston Churchill once said:
"They are afraid of words and thoughts! Words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home, all the more powerful because they are forbidden. These terrify them. A little mouse a little tiny mouse! of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic."
Come to think of it, Winston Churchill was also marginalized between WWI and WWII, and his constant warnings about the growing danger of Germany only invited ridicule from his contemporaries.
But as England and the world soon found out--Churchill was right.
And Ron Paul is right.
while some of RP’s economics points may be valid,
he clearly has no understanding of Islam whatsoever!
Ron Paul is the most Conservative candidate in the field at the moment. He is actually FOR small govt, he doesn’t just talk the talk about it.
Palin is my first choice, Paul is my second.
Most will, and you know it. Just read the Ron Paul forums. These people have absolutely no use for any of the Republicans who may actually win the GOP nomination. And Paul's strongest base of support is college kids (and perhaps young techie types) who are focused mostly on his social libertarian agenda - drug legalization and isolationist/peacenik policies. I would suggest that the overwhelming vast majority of these kids will AGAIN end up voting for Obama as the lesser of 2 evils between the Republican and Democratic party. Oh sure, the people who truly understand what Ron Paul represents won't vote for Obama, but they'll end up voting for the Libertarian candidate.
Libertarianism is an important component of the Republican party and is the source of a great many ideas (some good, some not) and energy (some good, some not.)
I really want to agree with you here, but I ask you this - if Ron Paul is supposed to be a Republican yet won't even endorse the eventual nominee of his own party, what good is he? What good is he to Republicans if the supporters he supposedly brings simply bail the minute he loses the nomination? What good is he if his supporters won't even likely vote for Republicans downballot because they can't vote for socially conservative candidates?
Everyone knows Paul is simply using the Republican party label because no one would even pay attention to him if he ran as the Libertarian he truly is. I don't mind candidates having a libertarian streak, but Ron Paul isn't a conservative with some libertarian views, he is a straight up Libertarian candidate dishonestly using the GOP label.
This is the age of the death of reason.
I see my post has struck a tender nerve.
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