Skip to comments.Schwarzenegger, Perry, Napolitano, Richardson urge "comprehensive" immigration reform
Posted on 08/13/2011 2:11:40 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
The four border governers (Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, Rick Perry of Texas, Janet Napolitano of Arizona, and Bill Richardson of New Mexico) have sent a letter House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist urging them to pass "comprehensive" immigration "reform". While Perry says they aren't endorsing either the House or the Senate bill, they are in fact endorsing the Senate's version due to their use of the word "comprehensive".
And, they're also using a Democrat talking point: "Instead of holding dozens of field hearings that do little but stir the pot of discontent, we urge you to get back to work and pass legislation that puts the interest of taxpayers first and solves this crisis once and for all."
He is DONE!! and can go back to building Mosques/Muslim Statehouses.
How about comprehensive deportation?
Another outbreak of RINatOsis.
Yawn. Perry/Rubio 2012.
This doesn’t matter to you?
“Don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up.”
Drink the Kool-aid.
There are Perry-bots, just like there were Bushbots. They aren’t concerned whether Perry is conservative or not, just the same as they weren’t with Bush.
They are a RINO infestation.
As a Palin supporter you are going to soil yourself when she endorses him.
I am voting for him. This is a lib democrat attempt to scuttle his being the party’s nominee. Talking point coming from the DNC and Axelrod. Good work DemoBots
I thought the “Pile on Perry” hour started later on weekends or is it ALL THE TIME here on FR?
Nice work, I will be sure to add this to my ‘special’ rino Perry list
LOL! So true.
Did you READ what you posted?
Quit you whining and prove us all wrong...
If Perry can’t take it, then maybe he better go back to Texas...
Perry endorses Rudy Guiliani for president in 2008
Perry works toward increasing H1Bs...
Governor Perry throws support behind H1Bs
Perry opposes border fence
Amnesty as a big issue is soooo yesterday. Most conservatives don’t consider it very important.
Everyone is a RINO to you purists.
Exactly. The Dems are doing everything they can to turn conservatives agaist Perry, because he is the only one who can beat Obama, so they want to knock him out in the primary.
And some people around here are either so incredibly naive, that they do the Dems work for them, OR are Dem moles and know exactly what they are doing. My guess is that it's about half and half.
>>Amnesty as a big issue is soooo yesterday. Most conservatives dont consider it very important.<<
That statement is not only idiotic, it is false. It may have been surpassed by other life and death issues, but to say it is not important to conservatives is asinine.
Which candidate has made it a major issue like Tancredo or Hunter did in 2008?
Let’s start again from scratch — immigration reform should include sending all illegals back to place of origin and all new legal immigrants should bring something to contribute, i.e. skills, instead of just an empty hand.
As I said, Obama is driving us off a cliff, and other life-or-death issues are at hand.
But to say “most conservatives don’t consider it important” is a load of B.S.
You ask any conservative with an IQ above room temperature if the border issue is important, and they will say a resounding yes. For economic and national security reasons. If you think it is NOT important, you are not a conservative.
Only an outright IDIOT would not think the borders are an important issue.
You just want to minimize the issue to support your candidate. Shameful.
JESUS CHRIST couldn’t make it as a candidate with Christian values on freeper..ha.
Who would they like? Palin’s not in, Bachman can’t win, and the only one left that could win is romney..I’ll take Perry.
Even if he was a RINO, which I don’t think he is..but even so...he has a chance of beating Obama, and THAT is the goal.
Just say NO to drugs.
The issue is not important to conservatives in the sense that they do not use it as a litmus test in deciding who to vote for. Case in point: John McCain. Or Lindsay Graham. You can quote any polls you want, but the only ones that matter are on election day.
Why send them back? Mass deportation would cost us and it won’t happen with millions of illegals.
“send them all back” is the most ridiculous and non realistic position. You just create a stalemate which we have had for years, because mass deportations is not workable. this country will just not do that now....and we don’t need to do that to solve the problem.
Here’s what works:
1. Secure the border.
2. No sanctuary cities.
3. Cut their welfare, college education monies and non emergency medical care. Actually deport those that need major medical care.
4. enforce employment practices against hiring illegals.
5. Set up a realistic Work Visa program for those workers that are needed. No work visa, no job. and beef up the process so that it doesn’t take ten years to get a green card!
6. Grant amnesty to any illegals that the military will accept and put in a minimum of four years in a combat zone.
7. Arrest and imprison illegal criminals.
With that in a matter of one or two years our illegal immigration problem will be solved. the vast majority we don’t want here will self deport and the new influx with a border will radically diminish.
but, I guess it is so much easier just to rant and scream “Deport them all!” rather than come up with a viable plan and work it piece by piece.
>> You can quote any polls you want, but the only ones that matter are on election day.<<
You just nuked your own argument. Congratulations.
John McCain was notoriously weak on immigration (actually hostile to conservatives on this issue), and he LOST THE PRESIDENCY to Barak Hussein Obama.
And part of the reason he lost was precisely because of his views on amnesty. Don’t try to rewrite history, we were all there.
So for you to sit there and say conservatives don’t care about “immigration reform” or “amnesty” enough to make a difference in the election....that’s just plain idiotic.
You certainly make poor arguments for your case.
Just get it all out. Show us what they really got.
Quote a poll showing McCain lost the election due to his stance on immigration. Anyway, I was talking about his Senate seat in the above post.
It can be done in just 6 months using buses already available. Properly managed with modern state of the art scheduling software you can do it for under $300 million. You can use airplanes and do it in 6 months at a cost of about $3 billion. (Fewer personnel are required with planes).
You can even offer to pay them $10,000 at the border to be collected at a bank in their hometown with the three-dimensional hologram ID we provide them. All they need to do is step across and stay across (the selected border crossings will be heavily guarded during that period.
Remember, it may seem difficult to deport 10 to 20 million people but they got here on foot. Motor vehicles should make it much easier.
Fur Shur people who imagine it impossible to deport that many people simply have not studied the matter.
We dump the info on the holographic IDs into our "facial identification software" operations nationwide.
>>Quote a poll showing McCain lost the election due to his stance on immigration. Anyway, I was talking about his Senate seat in the above post.<<
If you think amnesty did not largely effect McCain’s loss among conservatives, you aren’t very bright.
And I know you were talking about his Arizona Senate Seat, which is irrelevant, because who in the hell do you think VOTED to keep him in office there? ILLEGALS and people soft on the border issue.
HE LOST the presidency, and amnesty was no small factor.
If you deny that, you are hopelessly deluded.
I've said it long ago, Palin & Perry will team up in some shape or fashion before it's all over.
And even with Rick's shortcomings, that's a team I could and will support.
You really need to start backing your statements up with facts.
I will vote for ANY candidate we nominate in 2012. And I have never said that, ever, in my whole life. :-/
First of all, genius, the McCain protest was people sitting out the election. They did NOT vote for Obama. They did not vote. Period.
So there ARE NO exit polls saying people stayed home because of amnesty.
But here on Free Republic, and on every conservative talk show I listened to (which is a bunch...Rush, Mark Levin, Steve Malzberg, Roger Hedgecock, Dennis Prager, etc. etc.) there were TONS of voters vowing to stay home because of McCain’s stance on amnesty.
I was not one of them. But that IS what happened. Bank on it.
But if you want to live in make-believe world, and delude yourself into thinking that didn’t really happen, then you go right on ahead.
And if you think the borders are not important to conservatives, you are (to quote Foghorn Leghorn) “about as sharp as a bowling ball.”
thank you for your informative post.
Many of these people have set up households, children in school, etc.
However, the main reason it is difficult to deport millions, it took 20 years plus for them to get here, by the hundreds and thousands per year.
the American public will NOT go for Mass Deportations that the mass media will show. It will look awful and will have to be enforced with physical removal by police , our National Guard or our military. They will not just hop on busses...there will be demonstrations and protests and THOSE people will have to be dealt with by police and our military.
IF Americans still can’t demand a border fence up and get THAT accomplished, what makes you think there would be mass support for mass deportations across the country. Think about it, there is not enough outrage and insistance yet to even demand enforcement of the laws we NOW have. There is no huge and voluminous outcry to deport the illegals en masse.
I do like the idea of paying them to leave,much cheaper than keeping them here.
All of this deporting illegals is a mute point with no border fence...
Rino McCain and Bush Split the Party Over THIS and Allowed Rats to Gain the house in 06 and Their Pet Zippy, the Oval Office,That is how much this means to Real AMERICANS!!
President Davis, of the Confederacy, would have had them shot.
In the end all these people would be sent back to their perfectly tolerable homes. Living in Mexico is not punishment.
Remember, it may seem difficult to deport 10 to 20 million people but they got here on foot.
But I do also like Ex-Hippies (#30) suggestions.
They are both valid.
The fact is the whole illegal thing is NOT that big of a task once the CFR, Media, and propaganda of certain interests are broken.
Indeed this article, as others on this thread have stated, is the intentional psycho-twist of the Left. "Immigration reform" can mean either of your approaches, or anything else for that matter.
We are dealing with a truly sinister public matrix of verbiage. Everywhere.
The Media should never never never be the instrument shaping the issues or conducting the debates. It should be us legitimate taxpaying citizens, asking the real questions, suggesting the real solutions.
A matter of values, and the courage to face them. I certainly trust Sarah, and possibly Rick Perry.
Every day the US fails to enforce immigration laws. Stop thinking of MASS DEPORTATION. What do think happens to drunk w/out papers? Or...the same 12 person family who visit the ER for cold medicine? Or community ESL classes, food stamps, voting...etc. Start tomorrow and the enforcement of 20+ millions will take some time.
I agree with you....
We are in different times...we have allowed this for over 30 years and we don’t have the guts to even enforce the laws we have on the books.
Mark my words, the first dirty bomb that comes across our southern border...the border will be shut down in 48 hours, with Nat Guard and army at the border with shoot to kill orders.Sad to say, that is probably what it takes to overide those who are apathetic to the situation or so politically correct they will go to their deaths singing Kumbayya.
excellant analysis also....
Our country is in peril...in the 40’s and 50’s we had this leftist threat and Hoover, then the congressional Joe Mccarthy hearings to rid ourselves of commies in the administration and elsewhere. We are at the tipping point..or with people like Van Jones, etc maybe beyond that.
they will self-deport...they already leave when our economy is bad...But nothing will work until we are committed to a border secure and enforcing our laws.
I am beginning to think Obama had a great idea...a moat with alligators! Or Herman Cain and his 20 ft electrified fence..he said he was joking, but its sounding less like a joke all the time.
yep, Bush all over again.
Thank God he’ll be old news in 3 weeks.
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