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Schwarzenegger, Perry, Napolitano, Richardson urge "comprehensive" immigration reform
24ahead.com ^ | Sat, 08/26/2006 - 01:09

Posted on 08/13/2011 2:11:40 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

The four border governers (Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, Rick Perry of Texas, Janet Napolitano of Arizona, and Bill Richardson of New Mexico) have sent a letter House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist urging them to pass "comprehensive" immigration "reform". While Perry says they aren't endorsing either the House or the Senate bill, they are in fact endorsing the Senate's version due to their use of the word "comprehensive".

And, they're also using a Democrat talking point: "Instead of holding dozens of field hearings that do little but stir the pot of discontent, we urge you to get back to work and pass legislation that puts the interest of taxpayers first and solves this crisis once and for all."


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; disinformation; larazaperry; noamnesty; nocitizenship; perry; perrybashers; perryisnotbush; perryisnotmccain; rinoperry
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So much for the Perry Apologists and their claim that Perry was not for Amnesty.
1 posted on 08/13/2011 2:11:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

He is DONE!! and can go back to building Mosques/Muslim Statehouses.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 2:16:58 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: SoConPubbie

How about comprehensive deportation?


3 posted on 08/13/2011 2:17:29 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SoConPubbie

Another outbreak of RINatOsis.


4 posted on 08/13/2011 2:18:30 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: SoConPubbie

Yawn. Perry/Rubio 2012.


5 posted on 08/13/2011 2:22:02 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

This doesn’t matter to you?

“Don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up.”

Drink the Kool-aid.


6 posted on 08/13/2011 2:25:07 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: SoConPubbie

There are Perry-bots, just like there were Bushbots. They aren’t concerned whether Perry is conservative or not, just the same as they weren’t with Bush.

They are a RINO infestation.


7 posted on 08/13/2011 2:27:08 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: SoConPubbie

As a Palin supporter you are going to soil yourself when she endorses him.


8 posted on 08/13/2011 2:29:25 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: SoConPubbie

I am voting for him. This is a lib democrat attempt to scuttle his being the party’s nominee. Talking point coming from the DNC and Axelrod. Good work DemoBots


9 posted on 08/13/2011 2:29:35 PM PDT by veritas2002
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To: SoConPubbie

I thought the “Pile on Perry” hour started later on weekends or is it ALL THE TIME here on FR?


10 posted on 08/13/2011 2:31:59 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: SoConPubbie

Nice work, I will be sure to add this to my ‘special’ rino Perry list


11 posted on 08/13/2011 2:34:29 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'..An Obamaism)
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To: traderrob6

LOL! So true.


12 posted on 08/13/2011 2:35:16 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
More like, "Misrepresent the facts, pretend it means something it doesn't." Sounds like Obama. And Axelrod. You should be very proud. The real facts are out there, what he really said, in context. His record. All of it. Read it, don't read it, I don't care.

Perry/Rubio 2012
13 posted on 08/13/2011 2:35:30 PM PDT by DRey
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To: SoConPubbie
"While Perry says they aren't endorsing either the House or the Senate bill"

Did you READ what you posted?

14 posted on 08/13/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: PMAS

Quit you whining and prove us all wrong...

If Perry can’t take it, then maybe he better go back to Texas...

Perry endorses Rudy Guiliani for president in 2008
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/019691.html

Perry works toward increasing H1Bs...
http://www.globalmobilityreport.com/50226711/us_governors_seek_h1b_visa_increase.php

Governor Perry throws support behind H1Bs
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9776360-7.html

Perry opposes border fence
http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/006987.html


15 posted on 08/13/2011 2:37:34 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'..An Obamaism)
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To: SoConPubbie

Amnesty as a big issue is soooo yesterday. Most conservatives don’t consider it very important.


16 posted on 08/13/2011 2:37:56 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: traderrob6
you are going to soil yourself when she endorses him.Yep. I can't wait.
17 posted on 08/13/2011 2:38:26 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Fred

Everyone is a RINO to you purists.


18 posted on 08/13/2011 2:39:24 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: veritas2002
"I am voting for him. This is a lib democrat attempt to scuttle his being the party's nominee. Talking point coming from the DNC and Axelrod. Good work DemoBots.

Exactly. The Dems are doing everything they can to turn conservatives agaist Perry, because he is the only one who can beat Obama, so they want to knock him out in the primary.

And some people around here are either so incredibly naive, that they do the Dems work for them, OR are Dem moles and know exactly what they are doing. My guess is that it's about half and half.

19 posted on 08/13/2011 2:39:55 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Cheetahcat
He is DONE!! and can go back to building Mosques/Muslim Statehouses.

Yes, that's right. After 27 years and millions of dollars in trying, SoCon (not the media or Perry's many fallen opponents) has finally exposed Perry for a RINO and pulled the wool from our eyes. We are saved and can now vote for Palin.

Oh, wait. She's not running. And what's that rumbling? She's going to ENDORSE PERRY?

Oh! The humanity!!!
20 posted on 08/13/2011 2:43:31 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Sarabaracuda

>>Amnesty as a big issue is soooo yesterday. Most conservatives don’t consider it very important.<<

That statement is not only idiotic, it is false. It may have been surpassed by other life and death issues, but to say it is not important to conservatives is asinine.


21 posted on 08/13/2011 2:44:47 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: DRey
Honestly I question if some of these people are even supporters of Sarah. I mean I'm one of her biggest fans and I have no problem with supporting Rick. I smell the distinct and rotten stench of Mittens emanating from some posters.
22 posted on 08/13/2011 2:45:23 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Which candidate has made it a major issue like Tancredo or Hunter did in 2008?


23 posted on 08/13/2011 2:47:22 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: SoConPubbie

Let’s start again from scratch — immigration reform should include sending all illegals back to place of origin and all new legal immigrants should bring something to contribute, i.e. skills, instead of just an empty hand.


24 posted on 08/13/2011 2:48:00 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Sarabaracuda

As I said, Obama is driving us off a cliff, and other life-or-death issues are at hand.

But to say “most conservatives don’t consider it important” is a load of B.S.

You ask any conservative with an IQ above room temperature if the border issue is important, and they will say a resounding yes. For economic and national security reasons. If you think it is NOT important, you are not a conservative.

Only an outright IDIOT would not think the borders are an important issue.

You just want to minimize the issue to support your candidate. Shameful.


25 posted on 08/13/2011 2:52:09 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: PMAS

LOL!!

JESUS CHRIST couldn’t make it as a candidate with Christian values on freeper..ha.

Who would they like? Palin’s not in, Bachman can’t win, and the only one left that could win is romney..I’ll take Perry.

Even if he was a RINO, which I don’t think he is..but even so...he has a chance of beating Obama, and THAT is the goal.


26 posted on 08/13/2011 2:52:09 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: SoConPubbie
Rick Perry on Immigration * Secure the Mexican border against drug cartels. (Feb 2011) * Illegal immigration cost TX $928M in one year. (Nov 2010) * End the notion of sanctuary cities. (Jan 2009) * $100 million investment in a more secure border. (Feb 2007) * Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal. (Feb 2001) * Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation. (Feb 2001) * Import farm workers from Mexico. (Sep 2001) On The Issues
27 posted on 08/13/2011 2:52:09 PM PDT by RC one (whatever.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Why do these pinheads think we need "comprehensive" immigration reform? The lowlifes in the government won't enforce the immigration laws that are on the books now. Why bother creating more of them? That's just stupid.

Just say NO to drugs.

28 posted on 08/13/2011 2:54:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

The issue is not important to conservatives in the sense that they do not use it as a litmus test in deciding who to vote for. Case in point: John McCain. Or Lindsay Graham. You can quote any polls you want, but the only ones that matter are on election day.


29 posted on 08/13/2011 2:59:32 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: 353FMG

Why send them back? Mass deportation would cost us and it won’t happen with millions of illegals.

“send them all back” is the most ridiculous and non realistic position. You just create a stalemate which we have had for years, because mass deportations is not workable. this country will just not do that now....and we don’t need to do that to solve the problem.

Here’s what works:
1. Secure the border.
2. No sanctuary cities.
3. Cut their welfare, college education monies and non emergency medical care. Actually deport those that need major medical care.
4. enforce employment practices against hiring illegals.
5. Set up a realistic Work Visa program for those workers that are needed. No work visa, no job. and beef up the process so that it doesn’t take ten years to get a green card!
6. Grant amnesty to any illegals that the military will accept and put in a minimum of four years in a combat zone.
7. Arrest and imprison illegal criminals.

With that in a matter of one or two years our illegal immigration problem will be solved. the vast majority we don’t want here will self deport and the new influx with a border will radically diminish.

but, I guess it is so much easier just to rant and scream “Deport them all!” rather than come up with a viable plan and work it piece by piece.


30 posted on 08/13/2011 3:06:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Sarabaracuda

>> You can quote any polls you want, but the only ones that matter are on election day.<<

You just nuked your own argument. Congratulations.

John McCain was notoriously weak on immigration (actually hostile to conservatives on this issue), and he LOST THE PRESIDENCY to Barak Hussein Obama.

And part of the reason he lost was precisely because of his views on amnesty. Don’t try to rewrite history, we were all there.

So for you to sit there and say conservatives don’t care about “immigration reform” or “amnesty” enough to make a difference in the election....that’s just plain idiotic.

You certainly make poor arguments for your case.


31 posted on 08/13/2011 3:11:02 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Berlin_Freeper
And what about comprehensively political enemas and pumped stomachs for the four of them!

Just get it all out. Show us what they really got.

32 posted on 08/13/2011 3:17:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Quote a poll showing McCain lost the election due to his stance on immigration. Anyway, I was talking about his Senate seat in the above post.


33 posted on 08/13/2011 3:19:35 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Sarabaracuda

34 posted on 08/13/2011 3:23:20 PM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I've provided the numbers several times but it's actually easy to deport all of them right back to their own villages.

It can be done in just 6 months using buses already available. Properly managed with modern state of the art scheduling software you can do it for under $300 million. You can use airplanes and do it in 6 months at a cost of about $3 billion. (Fewer personnel are required with planes).

You can even offer to pay them $10,000 at the border to be collected at a bank in their hometown with the three-dimensional hologram ID we provide them. All they need to do is step across and stay across (the selected border crossings will be heavily guarded during that period.

Remember, it may seem difficult to deport 10 to 20 million people but they got here on foot. Motor vehicles should make it much easier.

Fur Shur people who imagine it impossible to deport that many people simply have not studied the matter.

We dump the info on the holographic IDs into our "facial identification software" operations nationwide.

35 posted on 08/13/2011 3:25:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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>>Quote a poll showing McCain lost the election due to his stance on immigration. Anyway, I was talking about his Senate seat in the above post.<<

If you think amnesty did not largely effect McCain’s loss among conservatives, you aren’t very bright.

And I know you were talking about his Arizona Senate Seat, which is irrelevant, because who in the hell do you think VOTED to keep him in office there? ILLEGALS and people soft on the border issue.

HE LOST the presidency, and amnesty was no small factor.

If you deny that, you are hopelessly deluded.

Wake up.


36 posted on 08/13/2011 3:33:48 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: traderrob6
As a Palin supporter you are going to soil yourself when she endorses him.

I've said it long ago, Palin & Perry will team up in some shape or fashion before it's all over.

And even with Rick's shortcomings, that's a team I could and will support.

37 posted on 08/13/2011 3:36:16 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

You really need to start backing your statements up with facts.


38 posted on 08/13/2011 3:38:45 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: TexasCajun

I will vote for ANY candidate we nominate in 2012. And I have never said that, ever, in my whole life. :-/


39 posted on 08/13/2011 3:39:27 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Sarabaracuda

First of all, genius, the McCain protest was people sitting out the election. They did NOT vote for Obama. They did not vote. Period.

So there ARE NO exit polls saying people stayed home because of amnesty.

But here on Free Republic, and on every conservative talk show I listened to (which is a bunch...Rush, Mark Levin, Steve Malzberg, Roger Hedgecock, Dennis Prager, etc. etc.) there were TONS of voters vowing to stay home because of McCain’s stance on amnesty.

I was not one of them. But that IS what happened. Bank on it.

But if you want to live in make-believe world, and delude yourself into thinking that didn’t really happen, then you go right on ahead.

And if you think the borders are not important to conservatives, you are (to quote Foghorn Leghorn) “about as sharp as a bowling ball.”


40 posted on 08/13/2011 3:47:02 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: muawiyah

thank you for your informative post.

Many of these people have set up households, children in school, etc.
However, the main reason it is difficult to deport millions, it took 20 years plus for them to get here, by the hundreds and thousands per year.

the American public will NOT go for Mass Deportations that the mass media will show. It will look awful and will have to be enforced with physical removal by police , our National Guard or our military. They will not just hop on busses...there will be demonstrations and protests and THOSE people will have to be dealt with by police and our military.

IF Americans still can’t demand a border fence up and get THAT accomplished, what makes you think there would be mass support for mass deportations across the country. Think about it, there is not enough outrage and insistance yet to even demand enforcement of the laws we NOW have. There is no huge and voluminous outcry to deport the illegals en masse.

I do like the idea of paying them to leave,much cheaper than keeping them here.

All of this deporting illegals is a mute point with no border fence...


41 posted on 08/13/2011 3:50:35 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rino McCain and Bush Split the Party Over THIS and Allowed Rats to Gain the house in 06 and Their Pet Zippy, the Oval Office,That is how much this means to Real AMERICANS!!


42 posted on 08/13/2011 3:52:41 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
President Wilson would have simply imprisoned the news media during the deportations, and so would Abe Lincoln!

President Davis, of the Confederacy, would have had them shot.

In the end all these people would be sent back to their perfectly tolerable homes. Living in Mexico is not punishment.

43 posted on 08/13/2011 3:55:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Remember, it may seem difficult to deport 10 to 20 million people but they got here on foot.

Absolutely correct.

But I do also like Ex-Hippies (#30) suggestions.

They are both valid.

The fact is the whole illegal thing is NOT that big of a task once the CFR, Media, and propaganda of certain interests are broken.

Indeed this article, as others on this thread have stated, is the intentional psycho-twist of the Left. "Immigration reform" can mean either of your approaches, or anything else for that matter.

We are dealing with a truly sinister public matrix of verbiage. Everywhere.

The Media should never never never be the instrument shaping the issues or conducting the debates. It should be us legitimate taxpaying citizens, asking the real questions, suggesting the real solutions.

A matter of values, and the courage to face them. I certainly trust Sarah, and possibly Rick Perry.

Johnny Suntrade

44 posted on 08/13/2011 4:00:09 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; muawiyah

Every day the US fails to enforce immigration laws. Stop thinking of MASS DEPORTATION. What do think happens to drunk w/out papers? Or...the same 12 person family who visit the ER for cold medicine? Or community ESL classes, food stamps, voting...etc. Start tomorrow and the enforcement of 20+ millions will take some time.


45 posted on 08/13/2011 4:25:13 PM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: muawiyah

I agree with you....

We are in different times...we have allowed this for over 30 years and we don’t have the guts to even enforce the laws we have on the books.

Mark my words, the first dirty bomb that comes across our southern border...the border will be shut down in 48 hours, with Nat Guard and army at the border with shoot to kill orders.Sad to say, that is probably what it takes to overide those who are apathetic to the situation or so politically correct they will go to their deaths singing Kumbayya.


46 posted on 08/13/2011 4:26:16 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Perry”?

That’s disappointing.


47 posted on 08/13/2011 4:27:27 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: jnsun

excellant analysis also....

Our country is in peril...in the 40’s and 50’s we had this leftist threat and Hoover, then the congressional Joe Mccarthy hearings to rid ourselves of commies in the administration and elsewhere. We are at the tipping point..or with people like Van Jones, etc maybe beyond that.


48 posted on 08/13/2011 4:29:38 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: endthematrix

they will self-deport...they already leave when our economy is bad...But nothing will work until we are committed to a border secure and enforcing our laws.

I am beginning to think Obama had a great idea...a moat with alligators! Or Herman Cain and his 20 ft electrified fence..he said he was joking, but its sounding less like a joke all the time.


49 posted on 08/13/2011 4:33:08 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: SoConPubbie

yep, Bush all over again.

Thank God he’ll be old news in 3 weeks.


50 posted on 08/13/2011 4:57:01 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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