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Gov. Rick Perry Admits to Being For Open Borders
EllisCountyO.com ^ | February 26, 2010

Posted on 08/16/2011 8:11:46 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

The full context of the paragraph, as well as the speech, can be found below:

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it.

Direct Link: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; immigration; immigrationlist; perry; perrybashers; rickperry; rinoperry
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1 posted on 08/16/2011 8:11:49 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Nuff said. Buh-Bye.


2 posted on 08/16/2011 8:14:49 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: SoConPubbie; Admin Moderator

Troll.

Don’t you you think you better stop? Your latest troll-fest just got the “No Thanks”.

I’ll LMAO if you get the zot, not just your lame old articles.


3 posted on 08/16/2011 8:16:17 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: SoConPubbie

So, Mr. Perry; life is good for you, you look to be a shoe in .... now you open your mouth and alientate 95% of the RNC base. Why not concede now and save some money?


4 posted on 08/16/2011 8:17:54 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Don’t you you think you better stop? Your latest troll-fest just got the “No Thanks”.

If I'm breaking the rules, please let me know and I'll change direction, until then, keep your comments to yourself troll!
5 posted on 08/16/2011 8:18:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Responsibility2nd; Admin Moderator

Admin,

If there is something wrong this post please let me know or if I am breaking the rules.

Thanks.


6 posted on 08/16/2011 8:19:48 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Responsibility2nd

Perrywinkles wilt from the heat in the kitchen?


7 posted on 08/16/2011 8:20:43 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Murray / Baucus / Kerry / Upton / Clyburn? I've had better picks come out of my nose.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
From the speech:

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it.

8 posted on 08/16/2011 8:21:10 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: SoConPubbie

If I’M breaking the rules?

Tell me FRiend. What just happened to that latest (of many) 10 year old article you just posted semaring Gov. Perry?

“Keep my comments to myself”?

Har de har hardly! Looks like I struck a nerve. Actually I want to thank you for replying. I keep calling you out as a post and run troll. Looks like you CAN retort if need be.


9 posted on 08/16/2011 8:22:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: Hodar

Perry didn’t say any of this stuff.

Romney trolls are out trashing Perry.


10 posted on 08/16/2011 8:23:05 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What’s wrong with simply posting what Perry has said?


11 posted on 08/16/2011 8:23:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hodar; Responsibility2nd

Could there be a difference between the “open border” Rick Perry describes in which both countries work together to solve problems faced by both and the BROKEN border we now have?


13 posted on 08/16/2011 8:24:49 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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14 posted on 08/16/2011 8:25:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Jewbacca
Perry didn’t say any of this stuff.

Uhh, yes he did, it's all out there on his official page.

15 posted on 08/16/2011 8:25:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Admin Moderator
This old, parsed BS...

Please save the bandwidth and sent it away.

16 posted on 08/16/2011 8:27:48 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Jewbacca
Perry didn’t say any of this stuff.

With all due respect, do you mean that Perry did NOT make that speech, and that the poster is lying? If it indeed is from ten years ago, has Perry gone on record changing his opinion since then?

17 posted on 08/16/2011 8:28:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: SoConPubbie

This is the truth. One he can’t get away from. He said it.

A killer diller for me.

I do not want an open borders candidate.


18 posted on 08/16/2011 8:28:28 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dfwgator

Nothing. But this thread has nothing to do with what Perry has said.

It’s all about SoCon’s lame attempts to dig up old dirt on Perry and stir up agit-prop on FR.

SoCon is to Rick Perry as Pissant was to Sarah Palin. As Chet 99 was to pitbulls.

SoCon is putting on a helluva show. Too bad it won’t end well for him.


19 posted on 08/16/2011 8:28:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well, so much for Perry.

Like 2008, the Republican Establishment wants a candidate who will not bring up the immigration issue. And like McCain, it will give Obama a free ride on the issue which would be the tie breaker in the coming election.

Americans don’t want amnesty (75%); don’t want birth citizenship; don’t want citizenship as a reward for law-breakers; and don’t want employers violating laws and avoiding taxes with illegals.

Republicans in the ruling class want cheap labor; want easy profits for their Chamber of Commerce cronies who write all Republican immigration laws; want open borders and off-shoring.

The MSM and pundits want a weak Republican who will guarantee an Obama win by demoralizing the potential campaign workers and contributors with a RINO candidate.

In the last campaign, Obama’s people were everywhere, visiting neighborhoods multiple times.

McCain’s were nowhere, because nobody wanted to work for a guy who would stab them in the back on immigration, judicial appointments, defense necessities, and most conservative issues.

It is true that illegal immigration is but one of several existential issues facing America, along with the economy/jobs, collapsing national security, and uncontrolled debt and spending. But it is a litmus test for these Republicans. If they follow the open borders/amnesty call of the party elites, they will show their contempt for the American people, best exemplified by the Tea Party.

If the elites get their guy again, like a Romney or Perry, the conservative majority in this nation will sit this one out again.


20 posted on 08/16/2011 8:29:12 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: SoConPubbie

The date if this speech is Wed, Aug 22nd, 2001.

I’m not sure how Gov. Perry would feel about his open borders stance today. Also, in the speech the kind of “open borders” he’s talking about certainly isn’t the reality of even back then, much less today.

What I would have a problem with would be where he talks about giving instate tuition rates to illegal immigrants. Is this true. Did he and the Texas legislature do this? That has been done here in MD recently, and I can tell you, no true conservative is a fan of that at all here in MD.

If his version of the Dream Act did give illegals the ability to pay for college at in-state rates, I’m sorry that’s not conservative, and a deal breaker for me. I mean goodness, we here in MD are castigating the MD legislature and Gov O’Malley for doing the same thing! Wouldn’t it be hypocritical to give Gov Perry a pass on it just because he has an R next to his name?


21 posted on 08/16/2011 8:30:34 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Har de har hardly! Looks like I struck a nerve. Actually I want to thank you for replying. I keep calling you out as a post and run troll. Looks like you CAN retort if need be.

Check out my posting history, FRiend, I respond quite regularly.

Sorry your feelings got hurt because I didn't have time to respond to you, but I'll make sure I don't hurt your feelings in the future and respond to you when you post to me.

I wouldn't want to make you cry.
22 posted on 08/16/2011 8:30:53 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Responsibility2nd; Jim Robinson
I doubt that Jim Robinson will zot anyone or allow anyone to be zotted for post the words right out of the subject of the posts mouth. I have pinged Jim just to make certain.

LLS

23 posted on 08/16/2011 8:31:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Jewbacca; Hodar
This is a direct link to Perry's STATE home website. Notice that the above reference is a DIRECT QUOTE:

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/

Show us where Perry ever retracted that statement.

Also this speech is full of goodies the invasion highway corridor and other juicy bits.

So rather than calling the OP a Romneybot (which he/she may be) dispute it with facts.

24 posted on 08/16/2011 8:32:09 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Responsibility2nd
SoCon is to Rick Perry as Pissant was to Sarah Palin.

Stuff on Palin was made up...SoCon is just regurgitating what Perry has said in his own words....big difference.

We're not just going to anoint Perry because he is the Chosen One. He's got a lot of 'splainin' to do.

25 posted on 08/16/2011 8:32:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jewbacca
Perry didn’t say any of this stuff.

Romney trolls are out trashing Perry.


Go to the link, it's from his own speech.

Gov. Rick Perry's Remarks to the Border Summit
26 posted on 08/16/2011 8:33:14 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: FourtySeven
I’m not sure how Gov. Perry would feel about his open borders stance today.

If he has not not shown a complete change of heart on the subject, then, regrettably, he is unacceptable.

27 posted on 08/16/2011 8:33:41 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: SoldierDad

Read what he said.

An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues.

Sounds to me like we’ll have open borders when Hell freezes over.


28 posted on 08/16/2011 8:34:48 AM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Admin Moderator
Tell me FRiend. What just happened to that latest (of many) 10 year old article you just posted semaring Gov. Perry?

Please point me to where the rule is posted or Admin let me know and I'll stop posting older articles?
29 posted on 08/16/2011 8:34:58 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
Wednesday, August 22, 2001

10 years ago. Taken out of context much?

30 posted on 08/16/2011 8:36:27 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
10 years ago. Taken out of context much?

Point me to an article that shows he has changed his tune.

Bet you can't!
31 posted on 08/16/2011 8:37:38 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: smokingfrog

Words mean things. Even if they were from 10 years ago.


32 posted on 08/16/2011 8:37:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoConPubbie

33 posted on 08/16/2011 8:38:32 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m still trying to find out more about Perry, as I don’t really know much about him.

This statement, though, doesn’t actually say he supports open borders in any way, any time soon. He says he hopes for a future where illegal immigration is no longer a problem because Mexico has fixed their problems and their people have opportunities on their own side of the border. That is, a day when Mexico is more like Canada and our southern border is more like our northern border.

There’s nothing particularly wrong with that opinion.


34 posted on 08/16/2011 8:38:48 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: mad_as_he$$; Jewbacca; Hodar
So rather than calling the OP a Romneybot (which he/she may be) dispute it with facts.

Just to clear this misunderstanding up, I'll never vote for Romney, in either the Primary or General elections.

Romney is a serial Liar.
35 posted on 08/16/2011 8:38:58 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: LibLieSlayer; SoConPubbie; Jim Robinson

SoCon is to Rick Perry as Pissant was to Sarah Palin. As Chet 99 was to pitbulls.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Adding.

As Willie Green was to trains. As many, MANY FReepers were to Mitt Romney.

Look. I don’t have a real problem with digging up 10 year old dirt on Perry. It’s called vetting. What I do have a problem with is posting the same articles (albeit from different links) over and over. Apparently the mods have a problem with it too, as they just deleted SoCon’s latest thread.

And as I’ve said. These threads would be fine except, SoCon is using this as AGIT-PROP to stir up factions between FReepers. SoCon’s threads are not about focusing on Perry’s problems. But on SoCon himself. As is the case here... SoCon has hijacked his own thread with useless arguments.

What’s the deal?


36 posted on 08/16/2011 8:39:05 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: SoConPubbie

This is an utter bullshi- post by a simpleton in Connecticut. Perry’s remarks are taken out of context.

He said, “If” a litany of remedial actions are taken. “If!”

The poster knew full well that this post is a damned lie!


37 posted on 08/16/2011 8:40:06 AM PDT by IbJensen (God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made politicians.)
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To: satan

I got that from it as well.

Translation for those in Rio Linda: ‘I will be for open borders when Mexico is no longer a social and economic basket case.... i.e. “when hell freezes over”’.


38 posted on 08/16/2011 8:40:20 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: All
Let menmake it clear, the following is, I believe, something Gov. Perry should have to answer for, at least, if not something that automatically disqualifies him as a "conservative" candidate. I mean really, am I the only one who has a problem with tue following? (from the same speech in the OP)

That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate.

39 posted on 08/16/2011 8:40:53 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: satan

You have summed it up quite well. It’s a very substantive statement he makes and essentially says FIX MEXICO.


40 posted on 08/16/2011 8:41:18 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: IbJensen
Direct quote: "President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it."

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/

That is the entire paragraph. Please show where it is out of context.

41 posted on 08/16/2011 8:43:47 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Responsibility2nd; LibLieSlayer; SoConPubbie; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
Look. I don’t have a real problem with digging up 10 year old dirt on Perry. It’s called vetting. What I do have a problem with is posting the same articles (albeit from different links) over and over. Apparently the mods have a problem with it too, as they just deleted SoCon’s latest thread.

Now you're just making stuff up.

I made one mistake yesterday, I believe, or maybe Sunday where I posted the same article from the LA Times and NY Times with different titles.

The article today, was not a duplicate, apparently the Admin Moderator had a problem with it for another reason, but it was not for posting a duplicate.

Before you tattle, please make sure you have your facts in place.

Search for yourself:

Here's the title of the article that got rejected:

"Governor Rick Perry Signs Hate Crime Bill"

It's an article from I believe a TV station's website. It is not from a wire-service so it cannot be a copy.

Furthermore, it seems apparent to me that your real beef is that this information is harmful to your candidate, and it bugs you that it gets posted multiple times, albeit from different sources and different articles.
42 posted on 08/16/2011 8:45:10 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Responsibility2nd
SoCon is to Rick Perry as Pissant was to Sarah Palin. As Chet 99 was to pitbulls

Perfectly stated.

A one man vendetta it seems, with a laser focus.

43 posted on 08/16/2011 8:46:30 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SoConPubbie

As I said upthread....

SoCon is putting on a helluva show. Too bad it won’t end well for him.

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44 posted on 08/16/2011 8:47:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: Responsibility2nd

SoCon reports, you decide.


45 posted on 08/16/2011 8:48:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TexasCajun; Responsibility2nd
Perfectly stated.

A one man vendetta it seems, with a laser focus.


Yes, let's just ignore the myriad of posts by other Freepers and the general distate shown by many on FreeRepublic for Rick "Open-Borders / Pro-Compreshensive Immigration Reform / Hate Crimes Supporter / Guardisil / TTC" Perry.

It's just little ol' me, a one-man band, tilting at windmills.
46 posted on 08/16/2011 8:49:07 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: mad_as_he$$
It's a speech that was made a decade ago and included this qualifier:

An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity.

You're being as obtuse, apparently, as the poster.

47 posted on 08/16/2011 8:49:09 AM PDT by IbJensen (God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made politicians.)
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To: FourtySeven

I don’t agree with all parts of the in state tuition but it isn’t a blanket freebie covering everyone. It only applies to students who have lived in Texas and attended public/private schools for at least 3 years prior to graduation. I don’t like them getting any aid while attending school because I think that should go to citizens.


48 posted on 08/16/2011 8:49:37 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Going into Rehab means never having to say you are sorry....)
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To: SoConPubbie
I made one mistake yesterday, I believe, or maybe Sunday...

Or was it last week or last month?

49 posted on 08/16/2011 8:51:36 AM PDT by IbJensen (God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made politicians.)
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To: IbJensen

“President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace,” Rick Perry.

Show where he ever retracted that statement.


50 posted on 08/16/2011 8:52:04 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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