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The Glaring Differences Between Palin & Perry
Conservatives 4 Palin ^ | August 19 2011 | Stacy Drake

Posted on 08/19/2011 7:09:07 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: ontap
Public schools mandate certain inoculations every year....While I opposed Rick Perry on this one I don't question his intentions. Rick Perry like all the other candidates has certain flaws, he like all the others is not the perfect candidate but is leagues above the present occupant of the whitehouse!!!

Except that we are not talking about a genetic disease, or even a communicable disease, but a disease that is, like AIDS, contracted by a choice(for the most part) of sexual contact.

This is bad from a conservative perspective for several reasons not the least of which are the following:

1. It basically surrenders the Morality argument since it sends a permissive message to young girls that we expect you to have sex before you are married with multiple partners no less.
2. It takes away the responsibility of the parents and gives it to big government, this would seem to undermine in a big way any claim by Rick Perry to be a limited-government movement conservative. This is simply more Nanny-State, big-government, compassionate conservative nonsense.
3. It's just one more UNNECESSARY cost driving our taxes throught the roof.

21 posted on 08/19/2011 7:45:16 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: ontap

if you are cool with transforming the USA into Mexico. He is the purrrfect candidate.


22 posted on 08/19/2011 7:49:38 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree, but the Governor cannot legislate morality.

Just like birth control pills, it seems we have lost the will to control our urges, and teach our children to do the same.

The original issue , though, is that the governor was trying to deal with a health issue, regardless of why it was occurring. Had he asked the public in his state to bring God back into their lives, and follow the Bible, how do you think the public would have reacted?


23 posted on 08/19/2011 7:50:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SoConPubbie
Now, if she had said something like "Rick ALWAYS does what is right regardless of whether it is popular. He ALWAYS walks the walk of a true conservative." you'd have a good point.

"I'll take lamest rebuttal of the day for $100, Alex!"

24 posted on 08/19/2011 7:53:31 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: magna carta
if you are cool with transforming the USA into Mexico.

In what way would he be doing that? How would you handle the immigration problem with Mexico?

25 posted on 08/19/2011 7:53:31 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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The original issue , though, is that the governor was trying to deal with a health issue, regardless of why it was occurring. Had he asked the public in his state to bring God back into their lives, and follow the Bible, how do you think the public would have reacted?

Sorry, but that is simply a dodge.

If he was/is really a limited government conservative, he wouldn't have thought twice about trying to usurp a parent's rights and perogatives concerning a vaccine for under-age girls for a sexually transimitted disease.
26 posted on 08/19/2011 7:54:48 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: markomalley

The ETF and TEF example is just the tip of that iceberg...and we haven’t even touched on Perry’s repressive small business tax policies yet.


27 posted on 08/19/2011 7:57:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Free Republic- Still AAA++ rated)
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To: pepperdog

Nobody’s perfect, and when it comes down to election time I will vote for nearly anyone against Obama (even Ron Paul). However, at this point in time we are not there. We have the opportunity to vet these candidates and it’s not yet time to jump on the bandwagon without knowing all about them. That’s all I have been saying (and getting pilloried by some for saying it). We don’t want another John McCain as our choice.
Perry has done things that should give conservatives pause. I know many Texans who are not enamored with him (I lived there most of my adult life, until 7 years ago, btw). I have been playing catch up the past week, but I was hoping he wouldn’t jump into the race. I really wish we could discuss these things without rancor, but that never seems to happen. We ARE all on the same side. We all want the same thing, ultimately.


28 posted on 08/19/2011 8:01:33 AM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: SoConPubbie
Sorry, but that is simply a dodge.

Why? It was in response to your exact statements about what was the source of the problem.

"1. It basically surrenders the Morality argument since it sends a permissive message to young girls that we expect you to have sex before you are married with multiple partners no less.

2. It takes away the responsibility of the parents and gives it to big government, this would seem to undermine in a big way any claim by Rick Perry to be a limited-government movement conservative."

Had he followed your thoughts and asked the public to be more responsible, rather than order the vaccines, how do you think they would have reacted?

It's a fair question.

29 posted on 08/19/2011 8:02:30 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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The thing about this particular vaccine (avoiding issues like safety—for this discussion let’s assume it’s safe and effective) is that this is not spread by casual contact. The other things we all got shots for were spread by casual contact. Measles, mumps, smallpox, whooping cough, etc. HPV is not. Of course, this is even more complicated by the political/money issues. But just the fact that it is not spread by casual contact to me means there is no reason the govt should be mandating it for school kids. Period.
It’s a parent’s right to decide if their daughter should get the vaccine. No business of the government’s.


30 posted on 08/19/2011 8:07:55 AM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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Had he followed your thoughts and asked the public to be more responsible, rather than order the vaccines, how do you think they would have reacted?

Fair enough.

Conservatives would have applauded him, but then, IMHO, that was not what Rick Perry was looking for, he was doing the Compassionate Conservative thing, trying to show just how much he cared, vs. actually being a conservative.

He was looking for a position that would make him more popular to the greatest amount of voters.
31 posted on 08/19/2011 8:09:58 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: tarotsailor

Interestingly I was lukewarm on Palin. DIdn’t dislike her, but was not sure about her because I was concerned about her electability (I still wish her kids would straighten up, I see some of that as a liability because the press hates her so!). However, every time I see her on tv she is just so darned charismatic and she is always saying what I want to hear. And she really IS the real thing. I just don’t think Perry is. I’m sorry, I have known of Perry going way back and he just has an air of never being who you think he is. I hope all of you who support him really really look at his record. It’s there. Please check him out. He may seem very electable right now, but remember the press will hate him too if he’s the nominee.


32 posted on 08/19/2011 8:12:21 AM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: UCANSEE2
For a long time, it has mostly been based on LOOKS, and media LIES.

Sadly so true!

33 posted on 08/19/2011 8:13:58 AM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: brytlea

The press will hate any candidate the Rs nominate. As for Perry, the smear machine is now in overdrive.


34 posted on 08/19/2011 8:43:26 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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Obviously they will hate any Republican. My point is that his bounce right now may simply be that he is the shiny new thing (it may not be, but you would expect him to get a bounce—but I hear people saying they support him simply because he has high poll numbers, to me this is NOT the reason to support him if it’s their ONLY reason since over time as people take a good look these numbers may well change).
Define smear.


35 posted on 08/19/2011 9:28:06 AM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: SoConPubbie
undermine in a big way any claim by Rick Perry to be a limited-government movement conservative.

It only proves he was wrong on this issue....no politician is going to be right on everything.

36 posted on 08/19/2011 10:45:12 AM PDT by ontap
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Gov. Palin supports some rhinos...I like her a lot but like every other candidate she is not perfect.
37 posted on 08/19/2011 10:48:06 AM PDT by ontap
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To: UCANSEE2

Courage like Martinez of NM, GA,AL,AZ...etc


38 posted on 08/19/2011 10:59:54 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: pepperdog

Yes but what are we willing to get with Perry.
Abuse of power
Arrogance
Open borders
Cronyism

You up for that?
I’m not.


39 posted on 08/19/2011 11:12:36 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: magna carta

You’ve got that and worse right now, want to keep it? I’m not.


40 posted on 08/19/2011 11:26:21 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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