Posted on 08/20/2011 11:52:40 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
I simply stated that on Free Rebublic Mesta is far more knowledgable of the Leadership and movements of the Islamic Agenda than most here...the trustworthiness of what is posted and the resources linked or spoken of can always be confirmed and or built upon by others who investigate further...and Mesta is always open for those discussions...and as much further investigation.
Most here do indeed do their own research. Freepers are well known for "digging" until the truth is revealed. Thereafter, and or along the way , each is of course left to draw their own conclusions....and these will differ as well as find agreement with.
I'd agree to that when you set aside the criminal element. All nations have their own misfits.
I moved to an area which had a Hispanic area of the city. I was astounded how welcoming and polite these people were, having not been around any prior to this. It didn't matter where you ran into them they were always courteous. So yes, I can agree with what you say.
But with their 'kindness' in mind. I do think that is one of the reasons their government rides roughshot over them. You would think LaRaza and the groups who make their demands in our nation would do so in Mexico.....to change their nations governance.
Thanks for the link.
You might be interested in this... offers a chilling operational insight into the mindset, planning, and vision of the Islamic movement in North America.
“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’...(’stealth jihad’) with all the word means.....
Their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ’sabotaging’ ...”its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”..as they so often state.
In other words, the Muslim Brotherhood’s strategy for destroying the United States is to get us, ..’specifically our leadership’,.... to do the bidding of the MB for them.
The Muslim Brotherhood intends to conduct ‘Civilization Jihad’... by co-opting our leadership into believing a counterfactual understanding of Islam and the nature of the Muslim Brotherhood,... thereby coercing these leaders to enforce the MB narrative on their subordinates.
At the ground level, this means....
.... that when police officers, federal agents, military personnel, or any other Americans who have sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution challenge their leadership with facts, the latter is faced with a hard choice:...... admit a lack of understanding of the threat and that he or she has been duped,..... or the leader must suppress the facts and his subordinates in the interest of protecting his or her professional reputation.
Extensive anecdotal evidence obtained from law enforcement professionals, federal agents, and military service members suggests that.... there is considerable suppression of the facts about shariah and efforts by the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies to bring it to America..... This behavior frequently impedes ongoing investigations and countervailing efforts.
For instance,..... police officers in a number of communities around the country have been pushed out of their Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) or counterterrorism positions by their chiefs or deputy chiefs for factually articulating that certain MB operatives working with their police leadership are, in fact, hostile to the United States and the police department in question....
.... A similar phenomenon has also been evidenced within the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and other federal, as well as state and local, entities. That is what is meant by “‘sabotaging’ Western Civilization by ‘their hands.”’
Also this, and note this has been presented to Congress Recently:
In the words of Muslim Brotherhood theoretician Sayyid Qutb,.....
“Whenever an Islamic community exists which is a concrete example of the Divinely-ordained system of life, it has a God-given right to step forward and... ‘control the political authority’... so that it may establish the divine system on earth…”
The Goals of Civilization Jihad in the USA” (’stealth jihad”)
• Expanding the Muslim presence by.. birth rate,... immigration, ...and ‘refusal’ to assimilate.
• Occupying and expanding domination of ‘physical spaces’.
• Ensuring the “Muslim Community” knows and follows MB doctrine.
• ‘Controlling the language’ we use in describing the enemy.
• Ensuring we do not study their doctrine (shariah).
• Co-opting ‘key’ leadership.
• ‘Forcing’ compliance with shariah at ‘local levels’.
• Fighting all counterterrorism efforts.
• ‘Subverting’ religious organizations.
• Employing ‘lawfare’ – the offensive use of lawsuits and threats of lawsuits.
• Claiming victimization / demanding accommodations.
• Condemning “slander” against Islam. (MB coined ‘Islamphobia’)
• Subverting the U.S. education system, in particular, ‘infiltrating and dominating’ U.S. Middle East studies programs.
• Demanding the right to practice shariah in segregated Muslim enclaves....(thus ‘protected’ commuities)
• ‘Demanding recognition’ of shariah in non-Muslim spheres.
• Confronting and ‘denouncing Western society’,... laws, and traditions.
• ‘Demanding that shariah ‘replace’ Western law. Note that many of the foregoing techniques entail, in one way or another, ‘influencing and neutralizing’ ...’the American government at all levels’.
Shariah is fundamentally about power – the enforcement of a body of law, not faith...... Therefore it is a political force, not a religious one.
You *resist* the temptation and claim to have credentials. I am hardly invisible as it would seem to want me to be, yet you discuss me as if I am. Has it occurred to you that you might not be the only one with *credentials*?
So far, you have offered no, zip, nada proof to refute anything I have stated. I have offered proof to backup my claims.
Either you, or someone else here, or even maybe on another thread, has stated that aga khan just “came into” his position 50 years ago. That is not quite true. He was born into it.
BUT, your challenge, if it is that, has absolutely nothing to do with the irrefutable FACT that whitewashed islam is being taught in the Texas public school system where the mere mention of Christianity is couched in terms which imply it is evil and islam is good.
This is a program that was instituted by rick perry. There is no either/or, no if or but.
As for biases, everybody has them, but I don’t see where my *bias* changes FACTS. And all I have given are facts. Refute them if you can. You don’t need to shadowbox. Just offer some proof to back up your own claims. If you cannot, then I would appreciate it if you would keep your snide innuendo to yourself.
Why nizkor?
I’m sure that you saw the recent thread here on FR in the past week or so that described the presence of at least 3 mB members high up in the current administration?
Uhm.. there’s been a few people around grabbing that part of nizkor for a debating crutch. Funny thing, they tend to be either muslim potted plants or neonazi potted plants.
Nothing new under the sun. Maybe u should go back to inactive?
Yes I did. Chilling to the bone isn't it. And those are the ones known...imagine those unknown because it is taught to refrain from revealing you're a Muslim. Obvious to acknowlege at this time would not be favorable to them....but it will be.
No, he didn’t sign a law for the gardasil vaccinations. Instead, he overreached with the big government and issued an executive order mandating the vaccines. Fortunately, the Texas legislature smacked that idea down decisively. However, Perry’s actions were pretty revealing of a viewpoint that apparently thinks it is ok to bypass the legislature on controversial issues that might not get through the legislative process.
As to the muslim history, can’t say that I’m familiar with this issue, so I’ll just stick to the issue that Gov. Perry’s action do concern me about.
Thank you for being an informed American. Only when enough people are informed and not afraid to speak the truth can we defeat these enemies within. Defense begins at our borders, so why I often wonder, do we even need Muslims in our country anyway? Is every human being in the world born with the automatic right to immigrate to America? We have made a religion out of immigration so that we cannot even have any sensible immigration rules that can keep our nation safe. Our leaders are clueless wonders, from the president on down to the mayor of NYC. They only want middle eastern money and an opportunity to be the top dog. I am disgusted with most of the politicians in our country and I will not vote for someone like Rick Perry or others who are empty suits just looking out for themselves. The political leadership is made up of clowns for the most part. As I said previously, we expect our police and FBI to be grown ups but the people who are above them, who actually give the orders are total jackasses. The politicians undue all the good that the protectors of our country struggle to do.
But why do you think that Perry’s heart is in the right place? He seems like a sell out to any globalist party who will offer him some cash. The guy is just not for real.
Tucson and Phoenix seem to be sanctuary cities so maybe it isn’t only the Tohono Indians who are accepting “gifts” from the cartels.
This is why it is so important to them to put a mosque at the World Trade Center site. The mosque building will look over a building across the street and will have the vantage point of looking right at the WTC looming over them. They will have as close up a view of the WTC as you can get. It will be allahu ackbar every day, the perfect place to gloat over their victory over us. Of course, if we continue to elect people who are warm and cozy with Islam, there will be more cause for gloating.
The Tohono corridor leads directly to Tucson.
From there its a straight shot up I-10 to Phoenix
And Perry tries to masquerade as a Christian.
humblegunner has never been much on facts.
What he feels is his guide, always.
>> “She cant win on the national stage.” <<
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Obviously, but neither can Perry.
Perry’s missteps are so odious and frequent that he will be stripped naked in the election, giving Obama the win by default.
There is but one choice that has been unsuccessfully attacked, and vetted to the max, even to the extent of coming up squeeky clean after 26,000 emails were made public. No other candidate is clean enough and intelligent enough to take us to victory in 2012. To choose another would be folly.
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