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Rick Perry back to basics (didn't he promise to serve out his full term if re-elected?)
August 20, 2011 | techno

Posted on 08/20/2011 6:43:09 PM PDT by techno

According to the Austin-American Statesman's Politifact Texas Perry-O-Meter Rick Perry at least twice promised he would not not run for President in 2012:

a)He told a questioner at a January 2010 debate that he would "absolutely" serve out his full new 4-year term.

b)In December 2010 Perry told Reuters, "I don't want to be president of the United States. I'm not going to run for the presidency of the United States."

And from EFC polfacts:

a) In a Nov 8, 2010 interview with Newsweek (after he had been re-elected):

"Not going to run for president. Not going to be a vice-presidential candidate. Not going to be in anybody's cabinet. And I suspect I'm not going to be anybody's ambassador either."

But in announcing the launch of his book tour on October 30, 2010, Perry was more ambiguous.

Responding to a question of his running for President in 2012 Perry said:

"No, I've answered that about as many times and as many ways as I can."

But he refused to commit to serving out a full term if re-elected:

"I'm guaranteeing people that I'll get in there and do the best job I can for 'em as governor...I just think it's all premature to be making a statement about you're going to be doing two, four, six or eight years from now--I don't ever take anything off the table."

From yahoo.com on May 25/2011:

"Rick Perry has repeatedly said he won't run for president in 2012 but there are signs he might not stick to his PLEDGE."

To whom it may concern:

I am a Palinista and I understand once Sarah Palin gets into the Presidential race she will be attacked for "quitting" (leaving office before her full term was up).

But here are the parameters on the issue imho;

1)Sarah Palin cannot be criticized by Rick Perry, a Perry operative or Perry supporter at any web site for "quitting". That is out of bounds and would be hypocritical.

2)If you are undecided and you choose to support Perry because in your mind Palin "quit" then you are also being a hypocrite and disingenuous.

3)If you are a Palinista, you have no right to criticize Perry for walking away before his full term is up (I am not criticizing Perry but just pointing out the facts).

4)And if you support someone other than Palin or Perry (eg Romney, Bachmann, Huntsman (he also left his post early, didn't he), Gingrich or Cain) neither your candidate nor yourself has any right to criticize Palin for "quitting" if you do not mention Perry in the same breath. Singling Palin out would be disingenuous.

In summary, records are records and facts are facts. Why isn't the media putting more focus on Perry "quitting" as they did with Palin?

I think the answer is obvious. The MSM doesn't want to do anything to undermine Perry in his quest to stop Palin from getting the nomination.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 6:43:19 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

How do we describe PDS vs. PDS?


2 posted on 08/20/2011 6:44:53 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: techno

Apparently there’s a statute of limitations on Perry statements. LOL


3 posted on 08/20/2011 6:45:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: techno

OH MY GOD! This is the best you have? And, this is an MSM plot to stop Palin? Come on. Get her into the race and let her compete and win the nomination on merits.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 6:45:33 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: techno

Well, I’ll be derned.


5 posted on 08/20/2011 6:46:25 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: techno

Alright, its nit picking time! Yeeeahaaaa!


6 posted on 08/20/2011 6:46:27 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: techno
So what?! Obama did the same thing.
7 posted on 08/20/2011 6:47:25 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: freedumb2003
How do we describe PDS vs. PDS?

One comes from the Left, the other seems to be coming from the Right...for now.

8 posted on 08/20/2011 6:47:43 PM PDT by txroadkill ( This space for rent)
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To: techno
Don't all elected officials implicitly promise to finish out a term to anything they are elected to? Americans are used to this, heck if Sarah Palin can do it why can't Rick Perry?
9 posted on 08/20/2011 6:50:11 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: indianrightwinger

This is NOT everything in my arsenal but simply one point of many why the MSM is favoring Perry over Palin.

Simply I am trying to bring clarity to the “quitting” issue.

And do you really think the MSM is overlooking the fact Perry left office before his full term was up after promising not to do so for any other reason than to prevent comparisons to Palin leaving office prematurely?

I may be a simpleton but I didn’t just get off the bus.


10 posted on 08/20/2011 6:50:25 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

Well check mate. You got me. There is no way I can Rick Perry.

That clears it up for me.

I guess I’ll for the totally non-hypocrite Ron Paul.

Is that what you want to hear.


11 posted on 08/20/2011 6:51:06 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Notes from the Hobbitt hole. By Hezbollah Hobbitt.)
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To: techno

12 posted on 08/20/2011 6:51:22 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: indianrightwinger
"OH MY GOD! This is the best you have? And, this is an MSM plot to stop Palin? Come on. Get her into the race and let her compete and win the nomination on merits."

Lol...she CAN'T.

13 posted on 08/20/2011 6:51:47 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: Artemis Webb

Exactly Artemis.

So I never want to read of or hear of Perry or a Perry supporter ever criticizing Sarah Palin for “quitting”.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 6:52:31 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno
If you were Perry and you saw the sh!t list of pubbie candidates running, you too would probably throw your hat in the ring to save the party from total embarrassment.

Who knows, WHEN Sarah steps in, Perry may step out.

Run Sarah, RUN!!

15 posted on 08/20/2011 6:54:41 PM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: techno
1)Sarah Palin cannot be criticized by Rick Perry, a Perry operative or Perry supporter at any web site for "quitting".

Just out of curiosity, what happens if one of them does?

"Cannot be" sounds pretty serious...as if there would be some sort of consequneces. ;-)

16 posted on 08/20/2011 6:56:21 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: harpu
If you were Perry and you saw the sh!t list of pubbie candidates running, you too would probably throw your hat in the ring to save the party from total embarrassment.

This.

17 posted on 08/20/2011 6:59:02 PM PDT by Gena Bukin (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: cripplecreek

He should have quit after two years like Palin then he would be beloved on FR.


18 posted on 08/20/2011 6:59:35 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: techno

I never have...
if somebody else wants to bring it up that’s their business though. I don’t control Perry supporters anymore than you control Palin supporters.


19 posted on 08/20/2011 6:59:53 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: techno

Obama did the same thing ?


20 posted on 08/20/2011 7:00:03 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: techno

“because Palin “quit” then you are also being a hypocrite”

Sorry, I disagree. Perry may quit after being governor for 12 years, if he wins the election to be President. Palin quit after 2 1/2 years, not to be VP, she just up and quit. People can argue that it was the right thing for her to do, but nobody can deny that is exactly what she did. Would Palin have also quit, after serving 1/2 of a term, if McCain and her had won?


21 posted on 08/20/2011 7:01:36 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Allegra

Then the gloves come off at least from yours truly.

I hope it doesn’t come to that.

Rick Perry better make damned sure to put a muzzle on the people working for him with regards to the “quitting” issue and Sarah Palin.

If he does that good for him. But if one of his staff members (or himself) goes Ed Rollins on Sarah Palin and the quitting meme then it becomes all-out war between the Palinistas and the Perry supporters.

I don’t want it to ever come to that.

Fight fair; that’s all I’m saying.


22 posted on 08/20/2011 7:01:48 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno
FR has gotten very weird lately.

We've always attacked liberals and RINOs, but I have never before seen campaigns on here to try to destroy conservative Republicans like Perry and to a lesser extent Palin.

And yes, I do think they are BOTH very clearly conservatives.

23 posted on 08/20/2011 7:02:00 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: techno

With all due respect, all your anticipatory contortions strike me as short-circuited, if not nonsense.
If Palin enters the race it will be clear (and worked out beforehand between her and Perry) that she will be in it to be his running mate. OF COURSE, the MSM and the Dems will try to paint them BOTH as hypocrites and “quitters”, thereby cancelling each other out in their eyes.
This makes it all the easier for them to continue promoting RINO Romney over both of them, which is what they always intended to do anyway.
Palin and Perry will speak in unison, with each distinguishing themselves from the other, but never going after one another, the way the overconfident Pawlenty did with Bachmann, apparently on the mistaken assumption that they were both front-runners.With your scenario, you’re overthinking what COULD happen with what is likely to happen, and makes logical sense to happen.
Palin will not enter the race if it involves “beating” Perry, because she’ll likely never do it. She could add even more votes to the ticket, the way she did in ‘08 with McCain, but this time the entire ticket is “for real”, and the voter can vote for BOTH and GET BOTH.


24 posted on 08/20/2011 7:04:10 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (No need for a tagline, but here it is anyway..........)
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To: indianrightwinger

They sure must be afraid of him.


25 posted on 08/20/2011 7:05:01 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: techno

Rick Perry quit as Governor? When did this happen?


26 posted on 08/20/2011 7:05:31 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Allegra

I do believe there is a difference between Palin abruptly quiting mid term more than 2 years before getting into another race and Perry running for office during his term. Perry’s actions are normal for elected officials. That somehow him running negates her decision is silly. I am not against Palin, and certainly have supported her over the past three years, but this charge is silly. I do not begrudge Palin’s decision because the legal situation was atrocious. It is part of her overall body of work and should be considered in the evaluation process. To me, both has strengths and weaknesses and a 2 year record is tough to fully evaluate, even though I believe she has some real strong decisions during that time.


27 posted on 08/20/2011 7:05:54 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: techno
Oh, I like Palin.

I was just curious about those consequences. ;-)

28 posted on 08/20/2011 7:07:01 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: supremedoctrine

I agree that it is possible that Palin and Perry may have made a deal to not discuss the “quitting” issue but Palin has not made any agreement to be Perry’s VP.

She has already gone on the record she has already done that and will not do that again.


29 posted on 08/20/2011 7:07:33 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

And after Sept 3, and Palin speaks to 10,000-20,000 people in Iowa, the narrative may become Perry is auditioning for Palin’s VP.


30 posted on 08/20/2011 7:08:32 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

There’s a time in a Mans Life when he needs to Cowboy Up and Ride. So Rick, Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Adios


31 posted on 08/20/2011 7:09:20 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (Nothing astonishes people so much as common sense and plain dealing.)
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To: techno

Geezuz chripes, you paste this rambling 50 IQ sentence on FR and expect us to take you seriously?

“According to the Austin-American Statesman’s Politifact Texas Perry-O-Meter Rick Perry at least twice promised he would not not run for President in 2012:”

Do you know what a bloody comma is or how to use it?

You anti-Perry neanderthals are reaching the bottom of the barrel with your stupidity.

I’m not for or against Perry, but with your incoherent ramblings, you’re hurting your own cause.

At least learn how to use commas so you don’t look like a clown.


32 posted on 08/20/2011 7:10:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: ilgipper
And I like Perry, too.

I was asking about consequences because some seem to be so afraid of the "quitting" accusation.

Hasn't that been out there for a while?

Have the Palin or Perry camps lobbed any such accusations at each other?

If so, I haven't seen it.

Hence the curiosity about all of the concern.

33 posted on 08/20/2011 7:10:45 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: ilgipper

There is absolutely no difference.

Perry pledged to serve out his full term in office and he went back on that pledge.

Palin also left office prematurely.

They were both voluntary decisions.

Ergo, Perry supporters have no right to criticize Palin for ‘quitting”.


34 posted on 08/20/2011 7:11:08 PM PDT by techno
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To: Allegra

Call this a pre-emptive stike before Palin enters the arena sometime within the next month.

Just trying lay down some markers and guidelines.


35 posted on 08/20/2011 7:12:47 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

I don’t want Perry to even visit the White House much less reside.....however, this is a bit much. Everyone running for office always says they would finish. Heck even business people say sure I am going to say with the company for years and then two years later another opportunity comes up.


36 posted on 08/20/2011 7:14:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: magritte

Rick Perry promised to serve out his full term as governor and he also promised he would NOT run for President in 2012.

You are not so stupid not to know if Perry becomes President he will no longer remain Governor of Texas and thus would have broken his pledge to the people of Texas.


37 posted on 08/20/2011 7:16:00 PM PDT by techno
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To: napscoordinator

Notice I am NOT criticizing Perry for “breaking his pledge” but I am simply trying to bring clarity to an issue.

I am a Palinista. I know Sarah Palin left office prematurely.

I am not blind to those facts. But Perry for all intents and purposes is doing the same thing.


38 posted on 08/20/2011 7:18:24 PM PDT by techno
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To: comebacknewt
Not to worry The radical marxist open borders org, La Raza, has got Perry's back, guess a conservative is a little different in Tejas.

Governor Rick Perry speaks to La Raza


39 posted on 08/20/2011 7:19:53 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Obamaism)
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To: techno

Be careful. Very careful. You are beginning to have the mental meanderings of a barking moon bat.


40 posted on 08/20/2011 7:25:04 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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To: Patrick1

Total garbage. She had good reason to resign and you know it.


41 posted on 08/20/2011 7:25:12 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: techno

How’s about a little 11th commandment observance around here.
You know Reagan’s 11th.

You know they’re as much as conducting a war agaist us don’t you?

We need all the generals we can get right now. The rinos are n the run. We have more good possibilities now than we did at this time in 07 or 08. Perry. Palin. Bachman. Santorum. Cain. Let this process play out.


42 posted on 08/20/2011 7:26:04 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Notes from the Hobbitt hole. By Hezbollah Hobbitt.)
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To: techno; Allegra; Bender2

Anybody who gets so mentally tied up in a candidate that they start spouting this kinda BS is flipping nuts, in the same way Paultoids and Obama worshipers are.

Quit wanking into toilet paper and get a life dimbulb.


43 posted on 08/20/2011 7:29:34 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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To: supremedoctrine

Exactly, bingo, and right on!


44 posted on 08/20/2011 7:30:05 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Fred
Don't get me wrong.

I think we should vigorously discuss the positions of all our candidates. There are parts of Perry's past that disturb me and are clearly fair game for those who do not support him.

Having said that, the desperation in some of these threads / posts is also bothersome. The desire of some FReepers to unfairly slime one candidate in order to try to build up another is counter-productive to the bigger cause.

45 posted on 08/20/2011 7:33:02 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: techno
Rick Perry better make damned sure to put a muzzle on the people working for him with regards to the “quitting” issue and Sarah Palin.

From all appearances, Palin and Perry like and respect each other and I don't see them getting into the gutter.

Neither one of them really has much control over what their supporters can say or do.

The only thing either of them could do is maybe condemn one of their supporters doing something tacky like say, putting an ad in a newspaper asking the general public to report things about their sex lives.

We all hope things will stay civil, but we also know from experience that they won't.

If the candidates themselves can stay above the fray, that should be acceptable.

46 posted on 08/20/2011 7:35:03 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Allegra

And to boot “the quitter Sarah Palin” endorsed Rick Perry and helped to propel him over the goal line in the GOP gubernatorial primary vote by helping Perry get 51% of the vote and avoid a run-off.

If Sarah hadn’t “quit” she may not have had as much impact on the Perry race and I think an argument could be made Perry might not have reached the magic 50% mark in the race and therefore may have faced the general election against White in a weakened condition.


47 posted on 08/20/2011 7:38:38 PM PDT by techno
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To: HerrBlucher

Making money is a good reason.


48 posted on 08/20/2011 7:40:16 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: techno

Guarantee, Rick Perry would have no use for becoming anybody’s VP.

Why would he leave Texas to become somebody’s VP?

Why would he leave a place he deeply loves?

Why would he do so on the ticket of a 47 yr old when he’s past 60 and is calculating 8 years worth for the next President?

Why would he do so when he’s the one with years and years of experience in the Governorship and Lt. Governorship of a big population state like TX?


49 posted on 08/20/2011 7:42:42 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: techno

As a Texan, I’m thrilled Perry is running for the presidency. Perry’s contempt for Obama is personal as Bambi has been at war with Texas from day one of his administration. Perry has the true fire in the belly to beat this little commie puke, and that’s what I want in a candidate.

Just today we find out we may have rolling blackouts here in Texas because Obama’s EPA guidelines are not being met fast enough. With 100 temps still ongoing here, this could actually mean lives lost. Obama hates Texans.

The best thing Perry can do for Texas is to get rid of Bambi.

Four more years of Obama and there is nothing left of Texas or of the rest of this country.

And, I have no problem with Palin having resigned as governer - I understand and accept her reasons.

Whoever the GOP candidate is, I will be voting for him/her. No sitting in the corner pouting and crying if my guy doesn’t win the primary.

I’m with Sarah - ANYONE BUT OBAMA!


50 posted on 08/20/2011 7:43:59 PM PDT by Texas Deb
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