Skip to comments.Rick Perry back to basics (didn't he promise to serve out his full term if re-elected?)
Posted on 08/20/2011 6:43:09 PM PDT by techno
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Then, given flame by Perry in the early days
That's hysterically funny, he didn't have any exposure to give a national opinion, and you also claim she just "jumped on the bandwagon", as if she didn't actually help spearhead things, rather she simply, you know......just decided she would take advantage of it rather than help it along.
You are one sick in the head person, and truly full of it.
“she will not do that again”......
yeah, in the same way that someone provided a whole raft of quotes from Perry (was it you in this very thread?) to the effect that he wouldn’t run for President........
unusual times and pressing new priorities, largely created by a highly disappointing Republican Establishment accommodation to Obama with the debt-ceiling issue) have a way of throwing all those early statements overboard.
Rick Perry rejected portions of Obama stimulus for Texas because that money trampled on his State’s rights. Invoked 10th amendment arguments during Obamacare debates and beyond. Firmly held against Federal intrusion at every step of the way before it was popular.
“And do you really think the MSM is overlooking the fact Perry left office before his full term was up after promising not to do so for any other reason than to prevent comparisons to Palin leaving office prematurely?”
The MSM is not ignoring anything that could hurt Perry. It is opposed to him nearly as much as to her. It is desperate to destroy him as it tried to do with her.
Sarah has stood up to everything that has been thrown at her and we have yet to see if that will be the case with Perry. I hope he went through his closets and won’t be blindsided by any skeletons which may be dragged into the light.
My buddy and I were talking about this and he said “Well, he has been governor of Texas for ten years there must not be anything there.” I reminded him of the drunken driving arrest that Bush had which was not brought up until the weekend before the election in 2000. Surely the Treason Media did not just find that out but waited until it was sure to do maximum damage before releasing the story.
What is good for the gander is good for the goose.
The same line of argument should then apply to Sarah Palin in respect to the 2010 midterm election and the 2012 election.
He was never in the forefront because he didn't have national stature, nor do any of your points show he was a leader of the TEA party, and quite simply, he wasn't.
And he did take lots of stimulus money, lots of it, tons of it.
You're still full of it, and still a slimeball for what you said. Go climb back under your rock.
I never called Perry a "quitter".
A "Moonlighter" perhaps.
Palin Urges Vote for Karen Handel; Against ‘Good Ole Boy Network’
Get a clue. OK?
“And, in 2010 elections, Palin was absolutely opportunistic and sexist in her endorsements.”
Like supporting Rick Perry over Kay Bailey Hutchison and Debra Medina. Yea, that looks pretty sexist./sarc/
You can’t see farther than the end of your nose.
“Palin quit 9 months after the election and, yes did collect a check while running”
Running for Vice President is not the same thing as running for President. The campaign lasted all of two months. You are asked and it is over very quickly. No one has ever resigned to run for Vice President. But many people have resigned to run for President (like Bob Dole) or did not have an elected office when they ran (like Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan). It takes a pretty sleazy grifter to promise people you are not going to run to get reelected, and then proceed to run on the taxpayer’s dime.
I have to believe you know something this basic and I am just wasting my time explaining it to you.
“A “Moonlighter” perhaps.”
How about a grifter? He is collecting a government check for work he promised to do but has reneged on. I think that is an outrage and he should have to answer for it. Especially with the fiscal mess Texas is in right now.
What fiscal mess? We are doing better than most of the country.
I totally understand why Palin resigned (lawsuits, etc.) but most candidates don’t.
I don’t have any issue with Perry not resigning. Lt Gov Dewhurst is considering a run for KBH’s seat. So what is left Strauss? No thanks.
Since he and Obama have butted heads so many times the last few years...and since Obama has targeted Texas...maybe he changed his mind.
In any case, I pay taxes in this state and don’t have a problem with it...nor does anyone I know.
“What fiscal mess? We are doing better than most of the country.”
6. The states debt has doubled under Perry.
The governor rails against government borrowing in Washington. But during his time in charge of the state government in Austin, state borrowing has more than doubled. According to PolitiFact, a nonpartisan fact-checking web site, Texas had $34.08 billion in outstanding bonds and notes at the end of the 2009 fiscal year, up from $13.7 billion at the end of fiscal 2001, Perrys first as governor.
If Perry gets credit for job creation in Texas on his watch, does he deserve equal credit for the massive increase in government borrowing during his time at the tiller?
7. Some taxes have gone up during Perrys tenure.
Although he signed an anti-tax pledge in 2009 and now says hes against all tax increases, Perry has raised taxes in Texas a half-dozen times since becoming governor, PolitiFact concludes. Perry explained that several of the tax increases were part of larger tax reform measures that lowered other taxes. The bottom line remains:
Texans paying more thanks to Perrys signature on tax-increase measures include companies with higher business taxes, plus cigarette smokers and purchasers of smokeless tobacco, fireworks and diesel equipment.
“In any case, I pay taxes in this state and dont have a problem with it...nor does anyone I know.”
So you think, because you support Perry, you can give him absolution on behalf of ten or fifteen million others. You can’t.
ANd taxpayers in other states resent this kind of scam as well. It says a lot about how Rick respects and guards the taxpayer’s money...that he will take it under false pretenses in a kind of bait and switch scheme.
Yawn. Lame. Who’s your candidate again ?
Apparently not finishing out terms is a resume enhancer. Maybe he was looking for love. LOL
No doubt the state’s debt has doubled. But do ya think..just maybe that has to do with the economy? A lot of the debt incurred will be repaid by self- supporting programs.
I have a gripe over franchise tax, but that was actually passed by the legislature. You act like Perry is an unfettered king. The cigarette tax and fireworks tax? That affected a very small part of the population. I’ll have to look up the deisel equipment tax, I’m not familiar with it.
In any case, Texas is, today still in good shape compared to many other states. Or can you prove otherwise? I’m sure you can come up with some stats, but unless you can support them with population comparisons and event comparisons (hurricanes, wildfires, etc)...(insert my comment here).
No, I can’t say that I can speak for anyone but myself. I never claimed to. But noone I know has their panties all wadded up about him not resigning...for the reasons I have already given. Do you pay taxes in Texas? If not...why the he!! would you care?
But since I see you post every negative comment you can find about Perry, how can you presume to represent the rest of the nation? What happened...did Perry fire your Dad or something?
I don’t know that Perry will be my candidate of choice. But looking at the last debate..who did you imagine seeing on the stage with Obama that might have a chance? At least the dislike is strong enough between Perry and Obama, today, he might make an interesting debate.
BTW, I’m very flattered that such a prolific aniti-perry poster answered my post.
“Palin quit the Governorship to become a Fox pundit and make millions.”
You are a Perry supporter. I get that. Not a problem. But if you are going to flat out lie and say Palin quit to get a job on Fox news, you are either woefully uneducated as to the ‘history’ you keep demanding others learn or a troll.
Spreading total crap like that on a site that backs Palin to the tune of 87% is a sure-fire way to attract attention to yourself. Possibly electrical attention, but that’s not my call.
Only counts if Perry quits AFTER losing (May God help us all if he is nominated, then loses!) the election; last I looked, he’s still governor, and will only resign if elected President.
“I totally understand why Palin resigned (lawsuits, etc.) but most candidates dont.”
The main problem there was the laws in Alaska that made her defend out of pocket for official business. I doubt many would have or tried to withstand the onslaught of frivolous suits if they had similar laws to contend with. Nor would I blame them.
I totally understood why she resigned.
And like you, I don’t blame her.
It was political b.s.
I’m still amazed those laws were even on the books. They are insane. But leave it to the Libs and Dems to capitalize on insanity. They damn near have a monopoly on it.
The silver lining is that they overreached as is SOP for them. Even if Palin doesn’t get elected, their BS up there set her on a course of making their lives (politically speaking) hell. One way or the other, we on the Right all benefit from that ;)
Honestly, Perry has quit every time he’s been re-elected. He quit being a conservative when he went along with the TransTexas Corridor.
He quit being a conservative when he pushed the whole Gardasil issue.
He quit being a conservative when he signed on to in-state tuition for illegals.
There are many more instances of him quitting, but these correlate well enough with his re-elections. He’s a conservatism-quitter multiple times.
Palin joined a national ticket about 20 months into her first term and then quit entirely before the first term was complete.
You're attacking a guy who is already 10 years on the job because he sees an opportunity (or need because the field has not yet produced a strong horse) for him to run against Obama because he told a questioner 20 months before he announced his candidacy that he would serve his full term?
If, somehow, he's the 45th president of the United States it won't happen until he's been governor for a dozen years. If he doesn't get the nomination he's still governor. He may still serve that full term.
It's really up to Texans if they "forgive" him. Clinton polled on that very question when he was running for POTUS to see if the promise he'd made to fill out his term would be held against him by Arkansans.
I don't see where Palin fans have any room to talk on this issue and, as already pointed out, Obama who promised not to run in his first term as Senator for damned sure does not either.
If Palin's read on the field is Perry won't win, then she should get in today. Announce on the Sunday shows. Until Perry joined, Romney was far out in front.
If you were Perry or Palin would you really sit on the sidelines and say we'll risk Romney vs Obama instead of running yourselves? I don't think so.
Ridding us all of the Obama regime is too important.
Rick Perry has declared war on Sarah Palin through his rep Marc Thiessen this morning on Fox who called Palin out “on the quitting meme” while defending Perry.
The gloves are now off.
Shame, shame, shame!
“Do you pay taxes in Texas? If not...why the he!! would you care?”
That is self evident. Think about it. Rick Perry is running for President of the United States, and every taxpayer in every state has an interest in how he has taken care of taxpayers’ money, including and especially money the taxpayers pay to HIM.
“I have a gripe over franchise tax, but that was actually passed by the legislature. You act like Perry is an unfettered king. The cigarette tax and fireworks tax? That affected a very small part of the population.”
I will grant you that Perry is not a king. Indeed the governor of Texas is weak institutionally compared to states like Louisiana and Alaska. Still, you say the legislature passed the tax (Don’t they pass every tax). WHy didn’t Perry veto it?
“No doubt the states debt has doubled. But do ya think..just maybe that has to do with the economy?”
Not just the debt has doubled but state spending has doubled as well on Perry’s watch. Perry has never been known as a fiscal hawk. The state budget (which was not small in 2001 has doubled under Perry. And up until 2008, the national economy has been booming.
“I dont know that Perry will be my candidate of choice. But looking at the last debate..who did you imagine seeing on the stage with Obama that might have a chance?”
Not everyone who is running for President next year (including Perry at that time) was ON the stage. I want a candidate with Executive Experience, but not one like Perry who has doubled the state budget. How about one who actually REDUCED her predecessor’s budget by 9.5% from $11.7 billion in 2007 to 10.57 billion in 2010, all in the middle of the Obama recession, when other budgets (like Texas’) were exploding. She was not on stage on stage either last week. But she will be.
PaDS vs. PeDS?
Likewise if you’re a RINO squish you have no right to criticize Palin’s 2 1/2 years as guv—you’re trying to get Christie to run 18 months into his term.
He served two full terms and will have served most of his third. Palin quit half way through her first. There is a bit of a difference there, wouldn’t you agree?
>>>How do we describe PDS vs. PDS?
Palin-deity syndrome vs. Perry-deity syndrome... both are rampant, and obnoxious.
Perry broke his pledge to fulfill his term and to not run for President in 2012. Longevity in office has nothing to do with the issue.
Folks in Texas voted for him based on his pledge.
Having said that I am NOT attacking Perry for breaking his pledge. All I am saying Perry or his reps have no right to call Sarah Palin out “on the quitting meme” which I posted earlier his rep Marc Thiessen did earlier this morning.
With your attitude and intellect, it's no wonder a lot of people think conservatives are stupid fools.
“But she will be.”
Okey doke...I see where you are coming from now.
I think it will be great if Sarah declares. I like her a lot.
If Sarah had been gov of Alaska as long as Perry has been gov of Texas, I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of legislation and missteps to broadcast. And no, before you think I am digging her for early resignation, I’m not. I fully understand her reasons...and agree with her resignation. But facts are facts...10 years in office is a long time to have dodged detractors.
I’m fine with Perry or Palin. Both have similar ideology...and are actually sympatico with one another.
Don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
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