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Rick Perry back to basics (didn't he promise to serve out his full term if re-elected?)
August 20, 2011 | techno

Posted on 08/20/2011 6:43:09 PM PDT by techno

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To: techno
>>> Sarah Palin cannot be criticized by Rick Perry, a Perry operative or Perry supporter at any web site for "quitting".

"I have SPOKEN!"

51 posted on 08/20/2011 7:44:10 PM PDT by tlb
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To: techno
I may be a simpleton but I didn’t just get off the bus. If you wear the right hat, they might not notice your pointy head.
52 posted on 08/20/2011 7:45:28 PM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: techno

Palin is the Quitter’s Quitter. In the middle of a term, with nothing on the horizon...she Quit to make a deal with Discovery / Goldman. Quit Quit Quit.


53 posted on 08/20/2011 7:46:02 PM PDT by crusader71
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To: crusader71

So now we have different categories of quitters.

So Perry is only a level 1 quitter and Palin is a level 2 quitter.

People accuse me of being delusional or crazy.

C’mon man!


54 posted on 08/20/2011 7:50:50 PM PDT by techno
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To: Patrick1

Not if you care more about the state you are governing, which Sarah clearly did, and that is why she resigned. Context, context, context. If sarah had a history of quitting jobs then I would be very suspect of her resignation, but she does not, so that resignation was unique with unique conditions. Her past shows that she has been a loyal and very hardworking servant, and she continued with that by resigning in light of heavy burdens that were keeping her from doing her job.


55 posted on 08/20/2011 7:51:38 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: techno
And to boot “the quitter Sarah Palin” endorsed Rick Perry and helped to propel him over the goal line in the GOP gubernatorial primary vote by helping Perry get 51% of the vote and avoid a run-off.

Well, Perry would have probably gotten that anyway, but it was good that Palin endorsed him. Debra Medina and Kay Bailey Hutchison were both pretty unpopular by the time the primary rolled around.

And since neither Governor Perry nor any of his campaign staff has accused Governor Palin of being a "quitter," then why all of the unnecessary angst?

Chill out.

Open a beer.

Maybe put on one of the pre-season football games.

Enjoy life a little.

56 posted on 08/20/2011 7:54:53 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

;-)


57 posted on 08/20/2011 7:57:11 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: techno

Serving 12 years as Governor and leaving 2 years early IF he won to be President is not the same as quitting in your first term. I think you know that or you wouldn’t be hellbent on trying to say he shouldn’t touch the topic.

My question for you is why you think Perry cares about how long she served. If you hadn’t noticed he’s building his campaign theme around generating jobs. If he gets caught up in petty arguments like this that means he’s off message.


58 posted on 08/20/2011 7:57:31 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (“I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can.”- Perr)
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To: techno

I agree with you in principle — if Perry quit to run for President, Palin shouldn’t attack him for it, and Perry shouldn’t attack her for quitting.

On the other hand, if he wins the Presidency, and therefore is forced to leave the Governorship, that is not really the same as quitting. And in fact, it is common for politicians to have to leave the current office they hold if they get elected to a new office.

And the nice thing about it is, generally speaking, in order to make that happen, the politician has to face the voters who put them in the previous office, and get their approval.

So, if Perry wins the election, it would be because he won the election in Texas (no way he wins without Texas). And if a majority of Texans vote for him for President, that will be approval of his moving on — it will be THEIR OWN votes that move him out of the Governorship.

And of course, the argument made in this post would be moot anyway — he’ll only stop being Governor if he actually wins the nomination and election, and until then he hasn’t quit so nobody can attack him for quitting.

You could attack him for running for office while still holding his governorship — except not only have almost every candidate who was an officeholder done that, but Sarah Palin actually did that in 2008, so there’s no way to make the argument that he should quit to run by Palin supporters.

BTW, I actually think it would be better for people to quit their jobs to run for higher office, but I don’t expect them to.


59 posted on 08/20/2011 7:59:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: techno
Most politicians say they aren't running until they throw their hat into the ring...

except those who can't make up their mind.

60 posted on 08/20/2011 8:00:39 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: techno
Perry left office before his full term was up after promising not to do so

Perry hasn't left his office. He's still Governor.

61 posted on 08/20/2011 8:01:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Soul Seeker

Length of time is irrelevant.

Perry made a pledge to the people of Texas he would serve out his full term and even right after he was re-elected just a week later told Romano of Newsweek he was NOT running for President.

Do you think some folks in Texas might have voted for Perry based on his pledge?


62 posted on 08/20/2011 8:02:00 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno
So Perry is only a level 1 quitter and Palin is a level 2 quitter.

What has Perry quit?

63 posted on 08/20/2011 8:03:12 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: techno

Perry is still the governor of Texas.

Some of this stuff just blows me away.


64 posted on 08/20/2011 8:04:11 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Allegra

Stupids are losing their bearing.


65 posted on 08/20/2011 8:08:19 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Texas Deb

By some act of God, every person named “Deb” is a friggin’ genius. Every word...poetry.


66 posted on 08/20/2011 8:08:22 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Patrick1

I agree. There is no doubt that Gov. Palin would have begun forcing unpopular highways and vaccinations on the citizenry, had she served 10 years. Her popularity on FR would have evaporated. Bob


67 posted on 08/20/2011 8:12:16 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The movie's rolled down to the last reel. It's got an ending you never planned. Harry Chapin)
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To: jospehm20

OK, if she is a quitter, what is she doing vying for the Presidency?


68 posted on 08/20/2011 8:14:01 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The movie's rolled down to the last reel. It's got an ending you never planned. Harry Chapin)
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To: techno

If this is the best arsenel you have, good luck!

Palin quit the Governorship to become a Fox pundit and make millions. If McCain was elected President and Palin became the VP, she would also then have quit the Governorship. And, no fool would call her a quitter in that scenario. While she was a VP candidate, nobody complained that she quit her Governorship.

Perry has not yet quit the Governorship and will only do if he were to be elected President. Is there no difference?


69 posted on 08/20/2011 8:14:15 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: techno
Do you think some folks in Texas might have voted for Perry based on his pledge?

Not really.

70 posted on 08/20/2011 8:14:31 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: txrangerette

There is NO WAY Perry will be a VP candidate on any ticket, and sure as in hell not on a Palin ticket. There will be no Palin ticket because she will not be the GOP nominee.


71 posted on 08/20/2011 8:15:41 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: alstewartfan

We will never know, will we?


72 posted on 08/20/2011 8:17:43 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Allegra

I disagree.


73 posted on 08/20/2011 8:17:48 PM PDT by techno
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To: jospehm20
Sorry, I disagree. Perry may quit after being governor for 12 years, if he wins the election to be President.

Sorry, I disagree. Now that Perry is running, he should resign from his job as governor.

74 posted on 08/20/2011 8:20:02 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: techno

That is so ludicrous. Fair fight requires bringing up material issues in a candidates past. Particularly the issues surrounding service. What are you afraid of? Why don’t you defend the “quitting” issue on the merits? Why should Perry’s campaign bring it up?


75 posted on 08/20/2011 8:21:48 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger
The last time she "quit" her job, she then became governor.

She does have this funny thing about quitting to ascend to a higher position. She's already used her position to help guide the biggest congressional change in our lifetimes and become a thorn in the Bambi administrations' side, I'd say that's pretty substantial as a move up. That you use the slander that it was all about greed is pretty telling about your own slimy character.

76 posted on 08/20/2011 8:24:09 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: indianrightwinger

Then the Palinistas will bring up Perry’s situation and the there will be all-out war between the two camps.

Do you really want to see that occur?

I sure don’t.

Fight fair. Perry and Palin’s situations neutralize each other. Stick to the issues.


77 posted on 08/20/2011 8:24:09 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

You are being far too generous to Perry, techno, in analogizing his situation to Palin’s. The two are not even roughly equivalent.

First, in 2010, Perry campaigned very specifically on a pledge not to run for President, but to serve his full term. He was in a hotly contested primary during which he needed a certain someone’s help, and he was accused of planning a Presidential run, which he flatly denied. Palin, on the other hand, was NEVER asked during her 2006 campaign if she was going got serve out her term and she NEVER promised to do so. If the PDS brigade has any quotes to the contrary, please post them.

There is a second distinction. Rather than continue to take a government check from the people of Alaska when she knew she would be campaigning in the runup to the the 2010 elections, and when she knew the bogus ethics complaints would further inhibit her ability to be a full time governor, Sarah Palin had the integrity to resign and give the people of Alaska a full time governor.

Rick Perry, having misled the people of Texas into rehiring him by pledging not to run for President, did not have the integrity to resign. He continues to collect his $150,000 a year government check for work he does not do (while jetting off to New Hampshire and Iowa) and he continues to live rent free in the governor’s mansion and to enjoy a large staff (also paid for by the taxpayers he duped) which he no doubt uses for the very endeavor he promised the same taxpayers he would not undertake.

But Perry’s not a quitter. He doesn’t have nearly that much integrity.


78 posted on 08/20/2011 8:25:29 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: techno

Perry as Palin’s VP candidate? Hahahahahhahahahahahahahaha.

Let Palin get in the race first. Then, let her win the nomination. Sorry, we are not going to skip an election cycle just because you Palinbots have psychic power to predict Palin wins.


79 posted on 08/20/2011 8:25:39 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: techno
Do you think some folks in Texas might have voted for Perry based on his pledge?

Umm...let me think.

No.

80 posted on 08/20/2011 8:26:05 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (“I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can.”- Perr)
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To: FreeReign

Like Palin resigned from Gervernor to run for VP? She did not, why should he?


81 posted on 08/20/2011 8:31:00 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: lonestar

Hahahahaha!! Well said.


82 posted on 08/20/2011 8:31:50 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: techno
a)He told a questioner at a January 2010 debate that he would "absolutely" serve out his full new 4-year term. b)In December 2010 Perry told Reuters, "I don't want to be president of the United States. I'm not going to run for the presidency of the United States." And from EFC polfacts: a) In a Nov 8, 2010 interview with Newsweek (after he had been re-elected):

I believe there was an April 2010 Newsweek interview(before he was re-elected) where he said if he was re-elected, he would serve out his full term.

Link

83 posted on 08/20/2011 8:33:01 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: techno
I like Palin, Perry and Bachmann. I am torn between the three. All have issues which the MSM will bring up, but gees I really don't think Sarah's quitting is an issue. That is not on my radar and I really can only look at where these candidates stand on the issues on a consistent basis and the experience each one has.
84 posted on 08/20/2011 8:33:52 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: Lakeshark

Slander? After quitting, she became a Fox pundit. She made millions. What part of that is factually wrong?


85 posted on 08/20/2011 8:34:44 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: techno

Obviously you are determined to show that Perry is a quitter like Palin without regard for any logic, intellectual honesty, and facts. Go ahead, continue to make a fool of yourself on this thread. I won’t stop you.


86 posted on 08/20/2011 8:36:29 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: jospehm20
Like Palin resigned from Gervernor to run for VP? She did not, why should he?

Palin ran for VP for two months.

Perry will be running for 14 months. He should at the very least turn all duties over to the Lt. Gov. and he should stop drawing a paycheck.

Can't do both things at the same time.

87 posted on 08/20/2011 8:37:16 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Brices Crossroads

BC, I am just trying to bring some clarity to the issue at this time.

Yes, it has not come up yet but I’m trying to get ahead of the curve.

As the old saying goes, fools rush in where angel’s fear to tread.


88 posted on 08/20/2011 8:38:23 PM PDT by techno
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To: FreeReign

Hey FreeReign, get some history lesson. Governors that run for President also preside over the Governorship during that time. The only recent one who did not is Romney.


89 posted on 08/20/2011 8:40:29 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger
Here's how you said it:

Palin quit the Governorship to become a Fox pundit and make millions

That, my friend is slander. Trying to weasel out and ask if she became a pundit after she resigned the governorship is not what you said is it, weasel?

Nor is all she did "become a Fox pundit and make millions", which is what you slimed her with.

Are you really unaware of how much good she has done in taking the fight to the dems? Are you really unaware of how effective she's been in that regar? Are you really unaware of how much she helped in the 2010 congressional elections?

Please go back under your slime rock, and yes, it was slanderous.

90 posted on 08/20/2011 8:40:38 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Now Lakeshark if Perry or a Perry supporter ever said that about Palin there would be an all-out war which I hope everyone wants to avoid between the two sides.


91 posted on 08/20/2011 8:45:54 PM PDT by techno
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To: indianrightwinger
Perry will be running for 14 months. He should at the very least turn all duties over to the Lt. Gov. and he should stop drawing a paycheck. Can't do both things at the same time.

Hey FreeReign, get some history lesson. Governors that run for President also preside over the Governorship during that time. The only recent one who did not is Romney.

Hey Chief, get some ethics.

I'm well familiar with politicians who don't resign from their current posts when they run for a new office. I don't agree with it. I think it's unethical.

As I said, Perry will be running for 14 months. He should at the very least turn all duties over to the Lt. Gov. and he should stop drawing a paycheck.

92 posted on 08/20/2011 8:46:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Lakeshark

You go get some history lesson.

She jumped on the Tea Party bandwagon.

The fire was sparked by Rick Santelli on CNBC. Then, given flame by Perry in the early days. And, then the Palins and Bachmans jumped on the bandwagon.

And, in 2010 elections, Palin was absolutely opportunistic and sexist in her endorsements. I said this before and offered proof for it. Go look at all her endorsements in each race. Some were for RINO incumbents. Some were for “women” because they were “women” and sure some were for true reform minded challengers.

For you to sit here and say 2010 GOP win was because of Palin is laughable.

Calling me names is not going to change the facts. She became a Fox pundit after quitting.


93 posted on 08/20/2011 8:46:42 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: FreeReign

Or, he could be done by February. It doesn’t really matter a lot, the Texas legislature isn’t in session again until 2013. He will be done by then, one way or the other.


94 posted on 08/20/2011 8:46:53 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: indianrightwinger

“Some were for RINO incumbents.”

Like Juan McCain?


95 posted on 08/20/2011 8:50:00 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: FreeReign

I get your standard. I would have NO problem if Perry did that. In fact, I would applaud it.

But, the claim that Perry is somehow a “quitter” because he is running for the GOP nomination and President while being a Governor is something I have a major problem with.


96 posted on 08/20/2011 8:50:13 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: techno
I'm not interested in a war between the sides.

I am interested in calling a certain slanderous cretin on this thread a slime ball because he/she is.

It's a fact, follow what he said, he's a slimebucket, the kind of poster that pissant was.

97 posted on 08/20/2011 8:50:20 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: techno

“I may be a simpleton but I didn’t just get off the bus.”

The bus part is subject to question.


98 posted on 08/20/2011 8:52:12 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Palin quit 9 months after the election and, yes did collect a check while running


99 posted on 08/20/2011 8:56:17 PM PDT by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: techno

Since he had no idea how bad Obama was going to be, he is absolved from this promise by all but quacks and cranks. Rational people realize that the US needs him more than Texas.


100 posted on 08/20/2011 8:56:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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