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Peggy Noonan and whether Obama should run for a second term
Island Turtle ^ | August 20, 2011 | Corky Boyd

Posted on 08/20/2011 10:50:58 PM PDT by Corky Boyd

In Friday’s Wall Street Journal, Peggy Noonan takes a look at President Obama’s Martha's Vineyard vacation and speculates on his thoughts in view of declining poll numbers, and disillusionment among his supporters.

"How could he not be depressed? He has made big mistakes since the beginning of his presidency and has been pounded since the beginning of his presidency. He's got to be full of doubts at this point about what to do. His baseline political assumptions have proved incorrect, his calculations have turned out to be erroneous, his big decisions have turned to dust...."

"Nothing worked! And nothing's going to work. He's the smartest guy in the room, but he's got the reverse Midas touch. Everything he touches turns to—well, unsatisfying outcomes."

But the article is more than failures and vacations. It questions whether Obama should continue to seek a second term. Indeed the subhead of the op-ed is, “Is his visit to Martha's Vineyard a sign that he's giving up?” She concludes her article with an ominous series of statements which are in reality questions for Obama to answer....

(Excerpt) Read more at islandturtle.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: democrats; obama; peggynoonan; secondterm
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 10:51:03 PM PDT by Corky Boyd
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To: Corky Boyd
He's the smartest guy in the room,

That would require a room full of idiots.

2 posted on 08/20/2011 10:58:22 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Corky Boyd

Piggy Noonan is a political whore and always will be. Just because you worked for Reagan, doesn’t mean you are a Conservative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4sOM4tpno


3 posted on 08/20/2011 10:58:45 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: lonestar

...have you seen his staff?


4 posted on 08/20/2011 10:59:25 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Corky Boyd

Too much God.

5 posted on 08/20/2011 11:00:47 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Corky Boyd
He's the smartest guy in the room...

30 months of relentless beatings with the clue stick hasn't been enough for Peggy.

6 posted on 08/20/2011 11:01:57 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Corky Boyd
If I had my way that idiot would resign yesterday. But we all can't get what we want. Maybe the big news Obama is supposedly going to tell us in September will be he's finally decided he's too stupid to lead the country and Bite Me Biden will take over. lol
7 posted on 08/20/2011 11:03:17 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: RichInOC
They fill the room...and fill the bill.

I'm wondering if some of the people in the WH are getting a little bit tired of his vacations while they do all the work and they all look stupid.

8 posted on 08/20/2011 11:04:11 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Corky Boyd

Those of us old enough to remember, can recall the chanting of the lefties. Ho ho hey hey. Blah blah blah LBJ. ad nauseum.

Its time for an update.

Hey hey ho ho. BHO has git to go.
Ho ho hey hey. BHO how many kids have you robbed their future today?
Hey hey ho ho. BHO has got to go.

Oh well. One can dream. Can’t one?


9 posted on 08/20/2011 11:07:44 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Notes from the Hobbitt hole. By Hezbollah Hobbitt.)
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To: Corky Boyd

Those of us old enough to remember, can recall the chanting of the lefties. Ho ho hey hey. Blah blah blah LBJ. ad nauseum.

Its time for an update.

Hey hey ho ho. BHO has git to go.
Ho ho hey hey. BHO how many kids have you robbed their future today?
Hey hey ho ho. BHO has got to go.

Oh well. One can dream. Can’t one?


10 posted on 08/20/2011 11:07:58 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Notes from the Hobbitt hole. By Hezbollah Hobbitt.)
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To: Corky Boyd
Corky, Corky, Corky.
Don't be a blog pimp.
You may be amusing yourself out there on Sanibel but I am not even a little bemused by your post.
You could have linked to Peggy's ridiculous article and made a few personal responses in your post. That would have contributed to the conversation here. Dragging us off to your retirement blog is, well, unnecessary.
11 posted on 08/20/2011 11:09:42 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle. He is not presidential.)
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This would be a nightmare. The D’s would nominate someone just as bad but much harder to beat.


12 posted on 08/20/2011 11:14:06 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Corky Boyd

Didn’t Peggy vote for Obama?


13 posted on 08/20/2011 11:20:52 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: lonestar

What objective reason does the media have to keep parroting that characterization? He speaks with a teleprompter and doesn’t do so well without one. He has made gaffes that would have been used by the left to continue painting Bush as stupid if he had made them. We’ve never seen a single college or law school transcript. He’s never held a real job in the private sector. He espouses ridiculous, sophomoric, (and dangerous) ideological positions.

The list goes on. What are they basing their comments on? A book? Even if he did write it cover to cover, which I understand is doubted by many, so what? Lots of people write books, and lots of people write really good books. That doesn’t make them geniuses or have any relevancy as to whether or not they’d be a good president.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 11:25:18 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Corky Boyd

I suspect Peggy must be lamenting her own disillusionment as well...


15 posted on 08/20/2011 11:27:01 PM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Corky Boyd

It is racist to criticize Obama for vacationing in Martha’s Vineyard. It is also racist to criticize him for having no debt reduction plan, for declaring Cut, Cap & Balance dead before it had passed the House, for wasting a trillion dollars of stimulus money, for accusing him of using corrupt political influence to grant Obamacare waivers to businesses loyal to his campaign coffers, for not agreeing that his administration has created or saved 2 million jobs, and for pointing out the annual debt has more than quadrupled and our accrued cumulative debt has grown by $6 trillion during his 2.5 years in office.

Furthermore, only a racist will accuse him of weakness for not responding when Putin recently called the US a “parasite” to the world’s economy, and for not even rebuking Pakistan, much less withholding further support when they allowed the Chinese to inspect our crashed helicopter at the bin Laden house. And it really makes my blood boil when racists accuse Obama of exploiting and politicizing the Obama hit by publicizing and releasing information about the SEALS team and then allowing a photo op of himself at Andrews upon the return of the caskets of 30 SEALS team heroes killed by Taliban. Not to mention any racist accusations of the misuse of Justice department in dealing arms to Mexican drug dealers, and new backdoor efforts to implement the Dream Act.

Stand up and fight, Mr. President! Don’t let these racists get you down. Fight on, all the way to election day and don’t change a thing! /s


16 posted on 08/20/2011 11:28:15 PM PDT by untwist
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To: Corky Boyd
No Democrat would dare to challenge Obama for the nomination. Democrats almost never take on an incumbent president of their party,

That statement is patently untrue. There have been only three incumbent Democrats running for re-election since the adoption of the primary system: LBJ, Carter and Clinton. Two of the three were challenged, one successfully (LBJ withdrew after a weak showing in New Hampshire). Carter lost in a landslide in the general election after a competitive battle with Ted Kennedy.

In either party, if the incumbent is seen as vulnerable, he will draw an opponent. As you mention later, only Obama's protective melanin has staved off a challenge. However, he reason that staves off a challenge is not only because of what it does to the career of the challenger. The bigger problem is all of the Senators and Reps who would lose their seats if the African-American voters feel snookered by the Dems. If HRC ran against and beat Obama in Round 2, NYC, Detroit, Newark, Philly, Baltimore, Chicago, Atlanta, Los Angeles would all lose minority turnout. The effect would guarantee the pickup of numerous Republican Senate seats, for starters.
17 posted on 08/20/2011 11:30:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (It's fun to play with your vision, but don't ever play with your eyes.-1970's PSA)
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To: Tempest

Did Peggy endorse him in 08?


18 posted on 08/20/2011 11:30:41 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Corky Boyd
Peggy, if you really think [Obama] is the smartest guy in the room, you are beyond ignorant.
19 posted on 08/20/2011 11:32:29 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Corky Boyd

Blog pimp. I don’t appreciate it one iota.


20 posted on 08/20/2011 11:34:00 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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