Skip to comments.Despite hysterical headlines of an “historic” storm: Irene is a Category 1 Hurricane
Posted on 08/27/2011 9:09:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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I’ve never said or done anything but offer sympathy and monetary aid for people dealing with tornadoes, including Joplin. What does that have to do with this weather event?
Robroy got banned for having an argument with people who couldn't discuss things and only wanted to give emotional responses. If he had backed away from that discussion, he'd still be here.
I am backing away.
Well, they've had plenty of Preparation and Warning. Almost a week's worth.
What the people of OKLAHOMA wouldn't have given for a WEEK'S NOTICE!
But you didn't hear them whining about it, or the media running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
Even so-called conservative FOX is shilling for Obama by excusing him for the recession due to the weather.
Irene Throws Obama Another Curveball Amid Push to Refocus on Economy
By Judson Berger
Published August 26, 2011 | FoxNews.com
President Obama’s been blaming “bad luck” lately for the state of the economy. Then along comes Hurricane Irene.
No, I understand. The media is hyping this, I agree with that, but it is not without precedent. My responses were based on *experience* with this kind of storm in this area, that a week without power is likely.
If you prepare for a week without power and you still have power, IMO, that is great.
It’s significant because people are mocking the severity of a cat 1 storm, people need to take it seriously, people can and have died in a cat 1 storm that’s why I posted about the guy in NC. I don’t care about car crash statistics, I am talking about people making lite of a situation which can and already has turned deadly.
Reminds me of the media induced hysteria over the bird flu and other stories they have manufactured in the past. When you have talking heads on TV 24 hours a day, you have to manufacture drivel for them to spout. TV news is all useless bullshit.——
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary (like a hyped storm)
...there certainly seems to be increasing hype, and more
“necessity” so it seems to have a population “controlled” by a ‘potential’ crisis.
Only thing missing id CNN’s row boat prop.
Wow! Great picture!
All the "experts" with the world's fanciest computer models can't even predict what a hurricane will do with very much accuracy, yet they want us to believe they can predict what the temperatures will decades and centuries from now. It's beyond laughable.
You need to check the local Prayer Thread.
Prayers induced God to reduce the storm to a Cat 1. Had there been even more prayers, it would have veered east and missed the US completely.
It's unfortunate that a man died, and that some people are getting adversely affected, but a person dying in a storm is hardly unusual. It happens all the time.
The media and the so-called "experts" were hyping this up to be one of the worst hurricanes of our time. It has turned out to be anything but, it's a fairly run-of-the-mill hurricane. And you know it.
Ask the people in Puerto Rico and the Bahamas about the "hyped" storm. I agree the bird flu was a bunch of crap just like the H1N1 was even more crap, however, look at the damage in the aforementioned places and tell me the media was spouting drivel. There is one man dead in NC so far - "hyped" storm - I think not. Cat 1 storms are not just a little rain event, they can be deadly.
Apparently that Cat 4 thing originated within the NHC (i.e. the government).
These things happen every day and nobody knows or cares, outside the local viewing area.
I guess I respect mother nature more than the rest of the people on this thread. Based on the information the media had when this hurricane started out is was pretty intense, ask the people in Puerto Rico and the Bahamas. It hasn’t hit here yet so I can’t say it’s a run of the mill hurricane.
It could have been worse. If you woke up with a horse's head in the bedroom, it is really time to panic.
We had several hundred million crows die of West Nile.
We had several hundred million crows die of West Nile.
These things happen every day and nobody knows or cares, outside the local viewing area."
I could not have said it better. :)
You and and a lot of other freepers actually get it!
****"Obama controls weather - creates thousands of new jobs!!!!"***
Rebuilding Efforts to Give Economy a Boost
By Peter Morici
Published August 27, 2011 | FOXBusiness
"...rebuilding after Irene, especially in an economy with high unemployment and underused resources in the construction and building materials industries, will unleash at least $7 billion in new direct private spending -- likely more as many folks rebuild larger than before, and the capital stock that emerges will prove more economically useful and productive."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/markets/2011/08/27/economic-irene/#ixzz1WFiBBx7J
Great photo. Hope you had no damage
You’re not alone with the heresy. I made this point yesterday on the Hurricane Irene thread, when it was apparent that the apocolyptic predictions were patently absurd, as usual. It’s all east coast media self-obsession. People keep replying to me angrily over there, which naturally generates a response, especially if it’s nasty. Now they’ve tattled on me with the moderator (children), you know how it goes. I’m a despised heretic for something that’s self-evidently true: in terms of media coverage, this is much ado about nothing.
“Fortunately Michigan isn’t known for strong tornadoes. The great lakes really screw with storm systems.”
Looks like Al Gore was right after all. You better get ready for doom and gloom Armageddon in Michigan. Sarc...
Conservationists around Great Lakes plan for climate change
By Kelly April, Tribune reporter
August 28, 2011
The long-term forecast for the Chicago area calls for more wild rains, hailstorms and flooding. Throughout the Great Lakes region, residents can also expect warmer year-round temperatures, more frequent heat waves, lower lake levels and thinner lake ice.
Ike was only a Cat 2 when it hit Galveston and Houston, and it stands as the third-most destructive Hurricane ever to hit the U.S. in terms of cost. There’s a lot more to this stuff than just the maximum wind speed of a hurricane, particularly when they hit areas like New Jersey that haven’t seen hurricane conditions in over 60 years.
Shhhhhhhhhhh! We're not supposed to notice!
My wife and I (and a big fuzzy cat) live in SE Wisconsin, close to Lake Michigan. We are not in "tornadoes alley" but we still get hit occasionally. I've seen "water spouts" moving along the Michigan shore about a 1/4 mile out. They are scary and also beautiful at the same time. Last summer we had a small tornado pass within a couple of hundred yards of our house as it carved a five mile path of destruction. It was traveling like a sewing machine needle as it would pull up for a bit and later extend to the ground again, sometimes skipping over buildings left totally intact then pulling the neighbor's roof off.
Wisconsin weather includes blizzards and the occasional ice storm so we have put up with the potential loss of power at any time of year for almost 40 years. A couple of years back I bought a 17Kw alternator driven by a duel fuel engine (natural gas or propane). It is wired in through an automatic transfer switch so that if the utility power drops out for 30 seconds the gen-set cranks up and switches over without human intervention. It is big enough to carry all of our 120 vac loads and the 220 vac well pump. I drop the electric stove, clothes dryer, water heater, & air conditioning to keep the size of the alternator affordable. By the time everything was installed and wired in the total cost was a shade over $5,000, which I consider a good deal for the peace of mind it gives.
I added uninterruptable power supplies to feed all the computers and entertainment gear to smooth out the 30 second "bump" when switching over to "local power".
Our worst outage was four days in a winter ice storm. The basement filled with water to the top step of the basement stairs. A chest freezer was floating around like a rowboat and everything inside it had to be pitched. When we got pumped out the furnace looked to be in bad shape. The insulation soaked up and held enough water to cause rusting of the sheet metal housing and it wound up looking like an old Ford! I'd guess the total damages we suffered over the 40 years we lived here were more then the costs of on site power. In 20-20 hindsight, if we had started out w/ our own gen-set when we first moved in the $5000 would have been much less ($2000???) and there would have been little or no damage to pay out.
Agnes obliterated parts of Northeast PA. We've had record rain in August in Southeast Pa before this storm. I hope this thing is overrated.
Not to sound unsympathetic but it was a fallen tree branch. If you get taken out by a fallen tree branch, I have to go with “it was just your time”.
Yeah I guess the fact that a person died is insignificant cuz it was just a fallen tree branch that kille dhim, oh well, no biggie, just his time to go.
An 11 year old VA boy was killed today when a tree slammed into his home, yeah, no biggie, it was just his time to go. Hurricanes are no big deal, nothing to see here.
Seven dead now due to the “hyped” up storm, no biggie, it was just their time to go. We shouldn’t take the storm seriously, it’s only a category one, hyped up by the media.
Wake me up when 320 tornadoes hit your state at once as happened in the south this year.
I kind of wonder if more people die on a normal weekend in the Irene affected areas when everybody is out and about than will die this weekend because not many people are driving? I mean Katrina had a death toll of around 2,000 so it was very dangerous but if the toll stays down like it is now it may turn out to be a betetr than average weekend, mortality wise.
I hope that you survived the tropical storm.
Hurricane hyperbole never goes out of style
Patrik Jonsson | The Christian Science Monitor | Aug 27, 2011
On one 24-hour news channel, a correspondent described the calm before hurricane Irene as the calm before a B-movie zombie attack. One anchor proclaimed the storm to be as big as Europe. Elsewhere, the hurricane was touted as the storm of a lifetime.
Storm hype is of course nothing new, neither is saying overwrought things when trying to fill up hours of airtime.
But as the hurricane approached, the fever pitch of the Irene coverage took on a life of its own, with government officials leading a chorus of caution even as closer watchers of the weather, especially on the ground in North Carolina, grew increasingly convinced that Irene would not strengthen, but steadily weaken instead into something closer to a massive tropical storm.
On one network, “they are desperately trying to [show] a nail, a shingle, anything. It’s getting embarrassing, one Internet commenter said as Irene’s core made landfall with 74 mile-per-hour ground speed readings in many locations near its eye right on the line between a tropical storm and a hurricane. Days earlier, forecasters believed a catastrophic Category 4 storm was a distinct possibility.
Don’t make lite of something you are not seeing for yourself. Transformers are exploding, power lines are down, trees down, sirens all over town, you may think it’s a walk in the park but for those of us sitting in the middle of it it’s not a joke.
I do not wish to disparage the storm here. I love VA Beach and Hatteras, especially Okracoke. Baltimore’s cool. The others I don’t know well anymore, mostly because I don’t want to. Well, except for DC/Alexandria and the Beltway. I suppose that’s actually a lot of places.
What I do mind is the hysterics. Where were national networks lined up like flights coming into Reagan 1) at Minot; 2) at the levess and dams that broke/were allowed to break along the upper Missouri; 3) in LA days and days after the midwestern floods; 4) in and around the tornados from OK to TN earlier this year; 5) when the ice storm of a couple of years ago left people from WV west in the dark for weeks; 6) in the land made dry by CA regs to ‘save’ a smelt (rather than farm them), thus destroying family farms, 100-year old nut trees, and causing at least 18% unemployment; 7) after the hurricane of last year in TX/Galveston; 8) all over the AZ wildfire like white on rice; and, finally 9) in the CURRENT drought catastrophe in Texas/Oklahoma? Wait a minute. Are most of these states red states? And this means wall-to-wall coverage and heave ho ‘let’s get ‘er done’ help is not worth a dime?
I am furious about this flicking away of the rest of the country so that 0bama ‘can take control’ of Irene. To me, this demonstrates the complete selfishness of East Coast media. Meanwhile, 1) AQ in Iraq has launched scuds into Kuwait; 2) more people have been killed in Iraq (it’s safe now); 3) Egypt is hiring the bedouin to fight AQ in Egypt; 4) Black Africans are being slaughtered in Libya; 5) the #2 AQ guy in Pakistan is now dead, thanks to us; 6) Zero’s EOs give race-based hiring a thumbs up—attempting to make minorities in control of the federal gov’t; 7) The S&P head ‘has resigned’ courtesy of this fascist totalitarian sh!t Administration; 8) Zero’s buddy Mugabe may have Qaddafi; 9) Mexican military’s in the US ‘fighting the cartels;’ and 10) Zero’s approval’s tanking like the Titanic, along with our economy. But hey, Irene’s worthy of legions of newscasters standing in sewage foam and reporting on missing shingles, some flooding, and NC excepted, the worst thing to happen in decades—complete with FEMA personnel moved into local motels, playing cards while waiting to help clean things up, at our expense, of course.
All to boost 0bama’s ratings and attempt to compare a 200+ MPH cat5 hurricane under Bush, complete with DNC complicity and Blanco’s/Nagin’s dereliction of duty to their citizens, complete with ‘collateral damage deaths’ in an effort to trash Bush. Irene is no Katrina. Never was. But it’s worthy of a 3D cone of 1) complicit federally controlled media; 2) ‘assistance’ upcoming (no doubt, a ‘jobs’ effort to ‘rebuild’); and 3) maybe we’ll even see 1930s-style work camps and cook food over campfires communally, so’s the Hamptons and LI residents can recoup their former ‘lifestyle.’ (Sorry. That’s a bit over the top, classist perspective of mine on those with especially inherited wealth).
As to the other things mentioned above, let’s give that a mere mote in our East coast eye. The ‘teabaggers’ being the illiterates they are will never notice. After all, we’re hicks and all related to each other via 2nd if not 1st cousins. And we can see Russia from our houses, even if they’re in Arkansas.
I forgot to mention that PR’s El Morro is downright amazing, along with the hunt for the elusive coqui, and the Bahamas are worth sighing over in pure delight.
Storm hyped by media; Savage only media man who predicted
(Fox News) Irene was expected to continue weakening as it passes over ..
Quite frankly I don’t care what you or savage or anyone else has to say about this storm, neither of you were sitting where I was sitting. Neither of you had transformers exploding in your neighborhood, neither of you have roof damage, tree damage, property damage, power lines down, flooding, etc. etc. the list is endless and I’m tired of people telling me how hyped the storm was and how weakened it was and what a farce it was etc etc I really don’t care, please stop with the links, I’m not interested.