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I lost my passion for Apple
BetaNews ^ | 08/27/2011 | Joe Wilcox

Posted on 08/27/2011 1:05:29 PM PDT by TomServo

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To: Sequoyah101

>>>They are ALL made in China.

Or Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, even RIM assembles Blackberries in Mexico... Be careful with blanket assumptions.


21 posted on 08/27/2011 2:20:33 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: TomServo

My daughter, grandson, granddaughter and I all have Ipads. We are very, very happy with them. I have a fairly new desktop and laptop but I use the iPad more than the other 2 put together. My 2 great granddaughters have games on my daughter’s and they are learning so much on it. They are 3 and 2. I was with the 2 year old last week and I could not get over how very smart she is. The 3 year old is the same way. My daughter’s friends will not allow their kids to even touch theirs which is a huge mistake.


22 posted on 08/27/2011 2:21:20 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Hodar

Something most apple don’t see or refuse to see is that they brought it on themselves..there really is a born again mentality to alot of nuvo-Apple users who look to proselytize their new found faith. That is irritating to read constantly...whats more they often spew FUD at others peoples taste in MS.


23 posted on 08/27/2011 2:26:28 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Hodar
Ever notice that the anti-Mac crowd is a lot more vocal, than the pro-Mac crowd?

No, not at all.

That said, this article doesn't sound like a typical Hater, it brings up some interesting points about Jobs himself, and his ability to bring us along with his flights of fancy.

I think Jobs leaves us on a high note. In my opinion, the iPad will be the most influential product of them all. The iPhone, bleh, just another smartphone, if only Apple would make one with a much bigger screen.... and then boom, they made the iPad. This product really does change everything.

24 posted on 08/27/2011 2:31:28 PM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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To: Hodar

I know how you feel. I have tried to do what I though was simple DVD stuff and it drove me up the wall looking all over the web for a software program to do something.
Worst part is I never have found the simple software to make a DVD like I want.
I had a LISA system way back when and that thing was so easy to learn and use.
I may be with you and try a MAC again.


25 posted on 08/27/2011 2:37:52 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Hodar

My employer uses both MAC an PC so I own both to keep up with the technology. I have no problem with either albeit I use the Macs more for graphics an media with PC used for CAD an other technical software.

Can either or do same jobs...yes. Does one do something better than the other yes. Is one built an warranted better than the other yes. I get what I want need an like to use an fits the task to be performed best.

Hope yer well....stay safe.


26 posted on 08/27/2011 2:38:12 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Or Malaysia or etc. Same thing... not made here.

Isn’t China the same in this time as Made in Japan was 30 years or more ago except just more of it? Made in Japan was to made in Asia as Coke is to cola, just another metaphor. Same for China but they are probably more dominant this time.

Let us be technically correct in public then... NOT MADE IN USA. Happy now?


27 posted on 08/27/2011 2:39:13 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: TomServo; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
Joe Wilcox claims he lost his enthusiasm for Apple now that Steve Jobs has left, and has rediscovered the Joy of Windows computers and Anfroid phones!—but some how he had this epiphany BEFORE Steve Jobs left, and it ignores the fact that he's been a nay-sayer about Apple throughout his career! Amazing!—PING!


Pundit claims he's lost his enthusiasm for Apple!

Please, No Flame Wars, Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

28 posted on 08/27/2011 2:53:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Sequoyah101

And who cares?

If it was made here, no one could afford these products, or the companies would have to cut their profits and/or quality, like GM/Chrysler/ford.

That’s a free market, welcome to America.


29 posted on 08/27/2011 2:58:24 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: TomServo

BSD
is the
One True Code

(Sorry, someone had to say it...)
30 posted on 08/27/2011 3:20:30 PM PDT by Peet (Cogito ergo dubito.)
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To: Aqua225

Well, first the labor market, then the remaining tax payers who pay their unemployment and support, then the tax payer after he realizes he is carrying not jut him but probably two others then... the people who took over the manufacturing because they now have the money the people who used to buy their stuff had and they aren’t buying anymore.

Everybody has to produce something to be useful on the ship or they can’t be on the ship. There is no room for passengers.

The free market isn’t free.

Consider the story told attributed to Dell, really doesn’t matter if it was Dell or not because any American company that once made stuff would do just as well... a Taiwan company came to them and offered to make chips for a good price... it improved Dell’s profit for the next quarters so they said OK.

Time went on and things went well, the Tai company came back and said things are working well, we can make your mother boards as well. It will improve your profit for the next quarters and making chips and mother boards are not your core business. Dell said OK.

Time went on and things went well, the Tai company came back and said things are working well, we can make your and package your computers as well. It will improve your profit for the next quarters and making chips and mother boards and assembling and packaging computers are not your core business. The labor market and business climate in the U.S. was getting harder and harder to manage what with all the mandated benefits, taxes, environmental regulation, constant OSHA inspections. Just a general pain in the neck to make things in the U.S. All they were doing now was packaging an shipping and it just wasn’t worth the trouble any more. Getting rid of this liability felt good. Dell said OK.

Later, when Dell went to the big box retailers for the next year’s contracts there was price pressure. Dell went to their supplier in Taiwan to see what could be done. No, the Tai company told Dell, there is no way we can reduce prices and they also told Dell that they had alternatives that were more profitable than making Dell computers. Dell wondered what to do since they no longer made computers and didn’t have a good handle on what the true cost structure was. They had also dismantled all their manufacturing capability.... something they were once good at and something that took a long time for them to build. It would cost a lot of money to recover the ability to make things

Meanwhile, a new computer started showing up on the shelves of the big box store Dell once sold to. It was well made and looked a lot like a Dell computer but it was less expensive.

Guess who is making the profit margin now? Guess what Dell share holders are thinking about now? The stock holders bought shares because the company made a profit and because they expected it to grow and continue to be a going concern... outsourcing gone to far is a going out of business model.

Who care? That’s a free market, welcome to America. Welcome to capitalism.


31 posted on 08/27/2011 3:30:07 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Sequoyah101

That is not a myth. That is an actual story. The company was Asustek and they started making boards from Dell.

I myself purchased multiple Asustek boards when I used to assemble my own PC’s

Dell was suprised the day Asus computers started selling at Best Buy


32 posted on 08/27/2011 3:46:54 PM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: Sequoyah101

And now there are thousands of consumers and new businesses that benefit from the lower cost commodity product they can use to build their business. The Dells and HPs and Sonys of the world now compete to add more functionality and capability for a given price, allowing new business to grow and thrive.

A stagnant economy is a dead economy. Turmoil breeds growth.


33 posted on 08/27/2011 3:47:01 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: TomServo

I think this person was much more attached to Steve Jobs than he was to Apple tech.

In my opinion Apple the company has absorbed the lessons of how simplicity and elegance can lead to success and premier tech products.

Apple and its products will be a fine legacy for Steve Jobs for decades to come. In fact perhaps his letting go will be a good thing, and allow Apple to release products to fill obvious gaps in its lineup.

A prosumer mini-tower desktop, for instance. ;-)


34 posted on 08/27/2011 3:49:13 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: TomServo

I feel the exact same way. With Steve Jobs out the thrill is gone. Apple will be just like a Hewlett Packard or Dell clone. I don’t own any Apple products (rip off prices) but I’m in mourning and the thrill is definitely gone without Chairman Steve leading this Cupertino gang


35 posted on 08/27/2011 3:50:05 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: SoftwareEngineer
Dell was suprised the day Asus computers started selling at Best Buy

I doubt it - Asus computers have been available in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and China for nearly a decade - well before they started selling in Best Buy. Asus is a household name in most of Asia, and has been for a long time.

37 posted on 08/27/2011 3:56:48 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: Sequoyah101
It is also going to need screen protectors and a case because I carry it all the time.

Do some searching on Gorilla Glass - it's a 3M product. The iPhones and iPad have them - there are a plethora of YouTube video's on this stuff. 3M has a very amazing product with this glass. Unless you are intentionally banging on it with a sharp screwdriver, you aren't gonna hurt it. Watch a few videos - truly amazing!!

Unless you are around diamond dust, line your pockets with emery cloth, or have a habit of dragging your phone behind your car on the way to work - you don't need the screen protector. I got a nice snap on case to absorb any shock if I should drop it; but it lives in the front pocket of my jeans for the past couple years and not a single scratch on the screen. Impervious to mere spare change and car keys.

38 posted on 08/27/2011 4:01:10 PM PDT by Hodar
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To: Sequoyah101
It is also going to need screen protectors and a case because I carry it all the time.

Do some searching on Gorilla Glass - it's a 3M product. The iPhones and iPad have them - there are a plethora of YouTube video's on this stuff. 3M has a very amazing product with this glass. Unless you are intentionally banging on it with a sharp screwdriver, you aren't gonna hurt it. Watch a few videos - truly amazing!!

Unless you are around diamond dust, line your pockets with emery cloth, or have a habit of dragging your phone behind your car on the way to work - you don't need the screen protector. I got a nice snap on case to absorb any shock if I should drop it; but it lives in the front pocket of my jeans for the past couple years and not a single scratch on the screen. Impervious to mere spare change and car keys.

39 posted on 08/27/2011 4:01:17 PM PDT by Hodar
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Just the way Steve looks and the other dude looks....This looks like an AIDS poster, I’m sure others thought the same. Not that SJ has AIDS and I wish him well and hopefully a recovery. You can look awful just before you turn it (cancer) around. Michael Douglas looked awful while he was getting dosed on radiation or chemo and he beat it.


40 posted on 08/27/2011 4:05:21 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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