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Latino group claims Aztlán war in next five years
Examiner.com ^ | Aug 27, 2011 | Miguel Perez

Posted on 08/30/2011 9:27:04 AM PDT by bayouranger

Phoenix-based Nuestros Reconquistos claims that there will be a war very similar to the Civil War fought in the next five years. “La Raza and MEChA have already talked to Latinos and Phoenix and explained that Latinos need to arm themselves for war,” says Nuestros Reconquistos President Manuel Longoria.

Cecilia Maldonado of Chicanos Unidos Arizona isn’t hoping for any sort of war, but believes it may be unavoidable. “For generations, our people have prepared us to take back the lands of the Southwest that were stolen from our Mexican ancestors. Because of the bad economy and many racist laws, Latinos will be forced to fight sooner than later,” says Mrs. Maldonado.

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To: Travis McGee
BTW, Philippe I/II sent at least FOUR armadas against the English. He didn't exactly lose ~ but he was not able to destroy the English fleet.

In the end, when Philippe II/III crammed the Treaty of London (1604) down the English' throat, it was pretty clear who had won.

NOTE: Philippe I/II also destroyed the Ottoman fleet ~ this was at the Battle of Lapanto where he combined with the Catholic League (and their fleet) to literally exterminate the Ottoman fleet (1571).

That pretty much ended residual Moslem advances into Europe although there were still plenty of battles to be fought. Even Captain John Smith who became Governor of Virginia had fought in the Balkan Wars against the Turks. He was taken as a POW.

Although Philippe I/II was a regular pain in the tail for the English, he had been their own King once upon a time (while married to Queen Mary).

Philippe II/III, his son, was more interested in partying and settled all the outstanding issues with other Europeans and OPENED AMERICA FOR SETTLEMENT by all (except the Dutch ~ they had to trick their way in).

It's worth everyone's while to read about these two characters ~ they kicked BUTT.

51 posted on 08/30/2011 9:55:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bayouranger

I say, bring it on Bubbah, we whipped old Santa Ana with single-shot muskets and bowie knives...

These people crack me up...they don’t even recognize what’s going on in their own country. Do they really think that it was Mexican Nationals or cartels who rounded up all those Ctholic infidels in a casino in Monterrey and torched them to death? Or beheaded Mexican Nationals by the thousands? The minute they start shooting those two batallions of Mozlems Oblame-o has armed up on our southern border are going to wipe them out first. Those batallions are already slipping up into PHoenix with those guns.

The problem is, with everybody in Mexico wearing rags on their heads, you can’t ever tell which is which. Brown skin, brown eyes, and the Mozlems trained to speak Spanish.


52 posted on 08/30/2011 9:56:26 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: bayouranger
“For generations, our people have prepared us to take back the lands of the Southwest that were stolen from our Mexican ancestors.

Mexico was “given” to the Spanish under the Treaty of Tordesillas in 1494 by papal decree.

So, if the pope essentially deeded Mexico to the Spanish, from whom did the land title for Mexico transfer to the pope? God?

I'd like to see that document.

53 posted on 08/30/2011 9:57:59 AM PDT by SlaveNoMore
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To: muawiyah

Agreed. I always follow the arguments with interest when Mexican agitators for ‘Aztlan’ attempt to cozy up to the tribes. I have never seen them well or even politely received with the ‘we are one’ pitch to the Southwestern tribes. Never.


54 posted on 08/30/2011 9:58:42 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: eyeamok

“....why haven’t they all been arrested for TREASON.”

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For the same reason that Muslims get away with threats. Government threatens its own citizens but ignores its national enemies.

It is so much easier to harrass law-abiding citizens, especially when there is a lethargic congress, than fight a violent enemy.


55 posted on 08/30/2011 9:58:57 AM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: bayouranger

The Gadsden Purchase


56 posted on 08/30/2011 10:00:07 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Psalm 144

The SW tribes no doubt show signs of nervousness when the Mexicans invite them over for dinner.


57 posted on 08/30/2011 10:00:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bayouranger

Every ethnic group has its fringe lunatics.

Apparently even Hispanics are not exempt.


58 posted on 08/30/2011 10:00:21 AM PDT by ZULU (Chris Wallace is a flake.)
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To: bayouranger

Once the next Civil war styarts there are going to be a lot of people taken out, they wont be all Mexicans either.

It will be open season on anyone the shooter doesn’t like.


59 posted on 08/30/2011 10:02:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: muawiyah

Mancorn ala Chichimecas.


60 posted on 08/30/2011 10:02:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: jonascord

You forgot your /sarc


61 posted on 08/30/2011 10:02:46 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Your sarcasm tag: don't leave home without it.)
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To: Travis McGee

Five years, huh? Wow, that’s real committment.


62 posted on 08/30/2011 10:03:42 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: DBrow

Not gonna happen.

My Hispanic son-in-law’s father served in the Marines in Viet Nam. I highly doubt that he will change sides now.


63 posted on 08/30/2011 10:03:57 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: eyeamok
“La Raza and MEChA have already talked to Latinos and Phoenix and explained that Latinos need to arm themselves for war,”

Is not this in and of itself “an act of TREASON”, or at the very least Plotting WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. Seems to me that this is actionable, why haven’t they all been arrested for TREASON. If it was the Heritage Foundation the inquisition would have already begun.

_____________________________________________________________________

You can bet Janet Napolitano and the DHS is all over this.

Oh wait, all terrorists are well dressed white women and bitter clinger Tea Party fanatics.

As the Left is so fond of saying, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

In the world view of this Administration, Black Panthers, Muslim Brotherhood members, Muslim Terrorists, La Raza Reconquista radicals, violent Gang Members, Drug Cartel killers, Flash Mobbers, gay rights activists and Union thugs are the freedom fighters and hard working, tax paying Tea Party soccer moms and dads are the terrorists.

We are living in a world where everything has been turned upside down

64 posted on 08/30/2011 10:04:38 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
in 1848.

Nothing is settled when you can rewrite history to suit your present meed and want, is not that what the liberals are doing?


65 posted on 08/30/2011 10:06:39 AM PDT by munin ( So, which of these winners calley, mookie will get his worrd the cops and generated public costs?)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Latino group claims Aztlán war in next five years

Unless there is a TEA Party President they will have the BATFE and Homeland Security fighting on their side against American citizens.

66 posted on 08/30/2011 10:07:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: jonascord

More questions, please!


67 posted on 08/30/2011 10:08:17 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Redleg Duke

They can be deported to the compost pile.

Composting Carne only atract vermin, better to burn and bury


68 posted on 08/30/2011 10:08:46 AM PDT by munin ( So, which of these winners calley, mookie will get his worrd the cops and generated public costs?)
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To: bayouranger
The black caucus is gearing it's racist followers up for war, too. Maybe the racist Latinos and racist blacks can fight it out with each other. They never got along anyway.
69 posted on 08/30/2011 10:12:14 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: bayouranger

Look at the bio of this writer:

Miguel Perez, current president of Chicanos Unidos Arizona and an active member of La Raza, also served as the vice president of the Latino civil rights organization MECHA in Fullerton California. He is the son of two Mexican immigrants. Perez plans to become a lawyer in order to protect the rights of Latinos. You can reach Perez at mperezlaraza1985@gmail.com.


70 posted on 08/30/2011 10:12:30 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Psalm 144
" ... that Latinos need to arm themselves for war,” .... to take back the lands of the Southwest that were stolen from our Mexican ancestors." .... Article

It amuses me that these poseurs express themselves in Spanish rather than Nahuatl. .... Psalm 144

Exactly. They are not "Latinos". They are "Mexicans". A true "Hispano" or "Latino" visitor in Mexico gets a lot of whining about "how the European Spaniards conquered our land".

In Spanish-speaking countries, "Hispano" (from the Roman province of Hispania) means "relating to Spain itself".

Hispania and "Hispano" are to Spain as Britannia and "British" are to Britain.

In Spanish-speaking countries, "Latino" is a general term that includes all speakers of all Latin based languages. So, the term also includes the French, the Italians, the Portuguese, the Brazilians, etc.

At least the Mexican activists who drew up this poster got it correctly:

The irony of the entire Aztlan ideology is that the descendents of the Mayans and the Aztecs did not originally conquer what is now Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona from the native tribes. The European Spaniards did.

If there is any ancestral claim to what is now the American Southwest, that claim belongs to the descendants of the local Native American tribes and not to the descendants of the Mexican tribes from Central Mexico or the Yucatan.

71 posted on 08/30/2011 10:14:35 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: bayouranger

Hey LaRaza and MEChA, let’s get it on. America has not been disarmed, and is ready to rock and roll.


72 posted on 08/30/2011 10:15:33 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: bayouranger

Mexico held title, with extremely tenuous control, to what is now the American Southwest for 37 years. What is now Texas for only 25 years.

The USA has controlled this entire area, effectively, for 163 years.

Why exactly does 37 years of title outweigh 163 years?


73 posted on 08/30/2011 10:16:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: muawiyah

soooo...you are saying mexicans are just spanish speaking christianized moors?


74 posted on 08/30/2011 10:16:41 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: cripplecreek
Its more than just Arizona. Look at the way border counties voted in the last election. At least 95% voted democrat.

Yeah, but the democrats not only give them free rent, free clothes, free food, free school, and free health care - they even give them deadly weapons to take what ever else they want.
They're voting for the hands that feed their hate.

75 posted on 08/30/2011 10:18:38 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: bayouranger
“La Raza and MEChA have already talked to Latinos and Phoenix.....

Phoenix is similar to a Latino?
76 posted on 08/30/2011 10:20:43 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: bayouranger

The women calling for war again.

Won’t happen. The hispanics would lose their benefits.


77 posted on 08/30/2011 10:21:10 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: bayouranger

They don’t ‘get it’. Where ever they go, they take their culture with them. If we gave Mexico the whole SouthEast - they’re be sneaking into Alabama to get jobs in the future. And Texas would be a drug infested hell hole...


78 posted on 08/30/2011 10:21:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: Travis McGee

This article is from July but I just saw in linked on another website, don’t know if it’s been posted on FR, I should check:

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july202011/los-zetas-ca.php

Jul-20-2011 15:24printcomments
Former DEA and CIA Operatives: Los Zetas May Attempt to Overthrow Mexican Government in 2012 (Using U.S. Government Weapons)

By Carmen Álvarez Excelsior Special to Salem-News.com

Translated by Mario Andrade, DeadlineLive.info.
Map of Los Zetas weapon routes
Courtesy: DeadlineLive.info

(MEXICO CITY) - Los Zetas use the Alliance Airport in Ft. Worth, Texas -the same airport where the DEA’s Air Operations Center is located- to fly weapons to Columbus, NM., El Paso, and Laredo, TX. to be later smuggled into Mexico. CIA analysts say the weapons, which are purchased from the U.S. Government according to captured Zeta leader Jesus Enrique Rejon Aguilar, aka. El Mamito, are being stockpiled throughout Mexico for a potential upcoming overthrow of the Mexican government in 2012.

(much more at link)


79 posted on 08/30/2011 10:22:02 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bayouranger

Well we gave them everything they need to actually wage a war, so....

For once, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will become the most patriotic hawks in the country (lest they lose their precious Congressional seats.


80 posted on 08/30/2011 10:22:20 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Red Badger

That is exactly what I love of the argument. Spaniards who stole from the indigenous trying to reclaim land taken by English descendants.... The Spaniards are the ones who ripped them for their gold... etc etc etc. Were those Spaniards part muslim? Maybe that is the real issue. The real estate. Muslim real estate.


81 posted on 08/30/2011 10:23:25 AM PDT by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: bayouranger
Phoenix-based Nuestros Reconquistos claims that there will be a war very similar to the Civil War fought in the next five years. “La Raza and MEChA have already talked to Latinos and Phoenix and explained that Latinos need to arm themselves for war,” says Nuestros Reconquistos President Manuel Longoria.

This is sedition, outright sedition, on American soil, by someone we can apprehend and prosecute.

Game on, bitch.

82 posted on 08/30/2011 10:23:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Thunder90

Read the link I just posted, above.


83 posted on 08/30/2011 10:26:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Red Badger; DonaldC; bayouranger; Travis McGee
"Descendants of Spanish Europeans threatening descendants of English Europeans ping. "

Vintage Skulls

The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas.

Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans.

84 posted on 08/30/2011 10:27:09 AM PDT by blam
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To: bayouranger
PARTY Enough talk and threats...... Time to rain lead.
85 posted on 08/30/2011 10:29:31 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: NFHale

They need to consider the following. I don’t know how accurate it is but it is sizeable:

Don’t know if it is true or not but could be.
subject: True story

True story and most people will never know it.

Here’s an interesting side bar.

After the Japanese decimated our fleet in Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941,

They could have sent their troop ships and carriers directly to California

To finish what they started.

The prediction from our Chief of Staff was we would not be able to stop a
Massive invasion until they reached the Mississippi River .

So, why did they not invade?

After the war, the remaining Japanese generals and admirals were asked that question.

Their answer....

They know that almost every home had guns and the Americans knew how to use them..

The world’s largest army.... America ‘s hunters!

I had never thought about this....

A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and

Arrived at a striking conclusion:

There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin ..

Allow me to restate that number.

Over the last several months, Wisconsin ‘s hunters became the eighth largest army in the world.

More men under arms than in Iran ..

More than in France and Germany combined.

These men deployed to the woods of a single American state to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed.

That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of
Pennsylvania and Michigan ‘s 700,000 hunters All of whom have now returned home.

Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally

Establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone

Would comprise the largest army in the world.

The point?

America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.

Hunting — it’s not just a way to fill the freezer. It’s a matter of national security.

That’s why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us disarmed.

Food for thought when next we consider gun control.


86 posted on 08/30/2011 10:31:15 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Red Badger

It wasn’t stolen from anybody. The total Indian population of all of Texas probably wasn’t 50,000, and hardly any Spaniards lived north of the Rio Grande.

Texas and the rest of the Southwest are very, very hard places to live without modern technology. Moreover, Spaniards didn’t want to leave temperate, safe, and fertile central Mexico because they knew that the Indians up North viewed killing Spaniards as an excellent form of recreation.

So, people ought to recognize that these “Reconquista” claims regarding Texas are based on the presence of less than a big subdivision’s worth of stone-age nomads and not even a tenth of that in terms of Spaniards. The same situation essentially prevailed in the rest of the Southwest.

There is no legitimate claim to Texas or the Southwest, and absolutely nothing to feel “guilty” about.


87 posted on 08/30/2011 10:32:12 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: jim_trent
Not only that, they stole the land that had all the jobs on it.

Excellent point. Why do they want this area? Is it different than northern Mexico? No. They want it because of the prosperity. Is the prosperity a function of the land? No, it is a function of the people and society that inhabit it. If we were to give them Texas, it will resemble Tijauana in 10 years and they will be swimming the Red River to sneak into Oklahoma.

88 posted on 08/30/2011 10:33:12 AM PDT by DKM
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To: bayouranger

Remember the Alamo!


89 posted on 08/30/2011 10:34:14 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: 353FMG

You are absolutely correct.

Our Government itself no longer protects the rights of those who pay for it and whom are beholden to...they support themselves and steal tax dollars for their own lifestyles.

The DHS memos and videos under Napolitano tell the story best; TEA Party activists and anti-abortion, pro-gun people are the threat, not Cartels and their gang distribution networks, not Soros-funded anarchists who destroy property, not Iran-Saudi-CAIRfunded Islamic terrorists who represent 99% of all domestic and international terror...no, the guy who runs the garage with a Gadsen flag who attends a Methodist Church is the enemy, not armed Aztecs or Arabs...

I just think there are going to be a lot of dead when this is all over, a lot of innocent people are going to die needlessly as our Government consolidates power and discriminates against the Founding Stock and civilization.

I truly fear there will be mass bloodshed.


90 posted on 08/30/2011 10:34:30 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: bayouranger

“lands of the Southwest that were stolen from our Mexican ancestors”

Stolen? There was a war. The inferior people lost.


91 posted on 08/30/2011 10:34:36 AM PDT by crusader71
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To: RC2

And there are plenty of gun owners who aren’t even hunters, no idea how many. And gun and ammunition sales have skyrocketed since zero got elected.


92 posted on 08/30/2011 10:35:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bayouranger

The Nuestros Reconquistos will be eliminated rather quickly.

The Dirty Little Secret among the so-called Latino/Mexican/Hispanic population labeling the left along with much of the FedGov will never admit:

Way too many second,third etc AMERICANS of Mexican decent do not speak Spanish, have very little ties to Mexico, have inter-married with anglos and quite frankly...DO NOT LIKE the newest wave of immigrants from Mexico.

Earlier immigrants came to build homes,businesses and raise families free from the hell hole of Mexico. They do not want to return to that hell nor or they about to let a bunch of nutjob reconquista’s bring Mexico here.

There is a HUGE silent division among the Latino’s/Hispanics or whatever the PC lable is, here, in the USA.

I see a lot of this right here in Texas.


94 posted on 08/30/2011 10:40:15 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: bayouranger
Statement: "Latino group claims Aztlán war in next five years"

Response: Agreed! Further, they will win.

Comment: "Hundreds of terror stricken whites will flee one irate Mexican."

95 posted on 08/30/2011 10:42:17 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: bayouranger

Swell!

96 posted on 08/30/2011 10:42:37 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: blam

In their minds, possession is 9/10th’s of the law.


97 posted on 08/30/2011 10:43:01 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wac3rd
I just think there are going to be a lot of dead when this is all over, a lot of innocent people are going to die needlessly as our Government consolidates power and discriminates against the Founding Stock and civilization.

They'll hop into their tax payer paid airplanes and leave the country. They'll come back later to claim their "place" once it's over.

Sorry. No dice. They won't be welcome here.

98 posted on 08/30/2011 10:43:20 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: blam
Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans.

They could have been the people from before
Noah's flood who were washed around the globe.

99 posted on 08/30/2011 10:46:13 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Mat_Helm

“Your friends are calling you....”


100 posted on 08/30/2011 10:47:47 AM PDT by Maverick68
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