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The Navy Did ?!?!? Over Libya?
Information Dissemination ^ | 8-31-11 | Gahlran

Posted on 09/02/2011 12:48:50 PM PDT by blasater1960

If it's true the Navy has been shooting down scud missiles over Libya from sea, and for whatever reason Navy information never reported this, it's time to cut the Navy Information budget by 75%.

(Excerpt) Read more at informationdissemination.net ...


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KEYWORDS: abm; aegis; libya; oup; usnavy
Unconfirmed reports of 4 scud missiles being downed over Libya by the US Navy.
1 posted on 09/02/2011 12:48:51 PM PDT by blasater1960
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To: blasater1960

I don’t see a problem with this. The Navy gets to test a capability at Libya’s expense and the Russians, Chinese, Norks, and Iranians obtain a valuable lesson about how effective their missiles really are.


2 posted on 09/02/2011 12:51:22 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: blasater1960
Unconfirmed reports

Try waiting until they're confirmed next time.
3 posted on 09/02/2011 12:51:28 PM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: MeganC

This technique might be useful for Israel and South Korea.


4 posted on 09/02/2011 12:52:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: blasater1960

I don’t get it, why advertise our capabilities?


5 posted on 09/02/2011 12:52:24 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Sauron/Saruman 2012; it couldn't be any worse..)
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To: blasater1960

They need to be cut anyway, they are now a “global force for good,” as per the new commercial. We are no longer even making a pretext that the military is for defense, it’s now all about the new world/one-world order. The borders are wide open, our infrastructure collapsing, but the Navy is working for the “global” good.


6 posted on 09/02/2011 12:52:48 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: blasater1960
I actually downloaded a blogger android app onto my phone just to post this

Well, that shows the commitment of the author to accurate reporting.

How many clowns would go to such trouble?

7 posted on 09/02/2011 12:55:49 PM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: MeganC

Seaworthy PAC-3’s?


8 posted on 09/02/2011 12:57:05 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: blasater1960
for whatever reason Navy information never reported this

Because it never happened? What these idiots don't understand is that shooting down a suborbital rocket requires you to launch another suborbital rocket. Both rockets will set off every launch detection system, both ground based and geo-spatial systems, and everyone will know about it. So to claim the US Navy has some secret launcher and rockets that are undetectable is crazy.

9 posted on 09/02/2011 12:58:23 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: MeganC
Hmm ~ so our stuff works ~ ought to anyway since we paid so much for it.

Best way to let 'em know we got the stuff is to just DO IT.

10 posted on 09/02/2011 12:59:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: arderkrag
Try waiting until they're confirmed next time.

This is part of the reason for the post in the first place. Why no news? It appears to be solid but why are they keeping it under wraps?

11 posted on 09/02/2011 1:01:42 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Traveler59

lasers?

:p


12 posted on 09/02/2011 1:04:17 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Gaffer

“Seaworthy PAC-3’s?”

We actually have a few missiles capable of going point-to-point with a SCUD. It’s just a programming solution is all.


13 posted on 09/02/2011 1:05:34 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: blasater1960

See post 9.


14 posted on 09/02/2011 1:08:17 PM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: MeganC

My understanding is that a PAC-3 is just a Patriot Missile/Radar with exactly that, a software revision,.....


15 posted on 09/02/2011 1:09:25 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Borax Queen; blasater1960

As a former squid, I am appalled at the “Global Force for Good”.

What happened to Join the Navy, ride the Waves?

Live the Adventure?

Just total bravo sierra, frankly.

/CTT3, 1988-1992 (9124, 9141)


16 posted on 09/02/2011 1:15:13 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder (I sure hope there is a New Morning in America soon. All this hope and change is leaving me depressed)
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To: Gaffer

I would guess a it’s the RIM-161 Standard Missile 2 (SM-2) with software upgrades. I doubt we would be lighting off any of the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (SM-3) that are essentially ABMs.


17 posted on 09/02/2011 1:17:34 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Gaffer
Seaworthy PAC-3’s?

No, SM-3s.
18 posted on 09/02/2011 1:18:52 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: arderkrag

24 August 2011 – UK Guardian – Chris Stephen from Misrata… Sirte is Gaddafi’s birthplace but to the symbolic value of capturing this city is added the urgency of overrunning bases from which Scud missiles are now being launched against Misrata. These Soviet-era rockets are the heaviest weapons so far deployed by pro-Gaddafi forces. At least four have been aimed at the city, the latest exploding amid a flash of orange in a thunderous detonation in the early hours of this morning, causing momentary panic among hundreds of people gathered to greet relatives freed from captivity in Tripoli. Misratans appear to have the US navy to thank for the failure of any of the missiles to reach their targets, with reports that a cruiser (make that a destroyer) operating in the Mediterranean has been using Aegis missiles to intercept the Scuds each time one is detected coming in over the Gulf of Sirte. What is unnerving the people here is that the interceptions, perhaps for technical reasons, take place at the last moment, with today’s Scud being blown apart seconds before it would have hit the city. So far the US navy has hit four out four, but no one is sure how many scuds government forces still possess, nor whether Gaddafi has the capability to mount chemical warheads, as was the case with Iraq scuds fired at Israel in the 1991 Gulf war.


19 posted on 09/02/2011 1:19:21 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960

Why would navy rush to publish everything it does, ego?

There are sound strategic and national security reasons for not telling the world what you have done and what you are capable of


20 posted on 09/02/2011 1:26:50 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos
There are sound strategic and national security reasons for not telling the world what you have done and what you are capable of
21 posted on 09/02/2011 1:32:48 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Ro_Thunder

Thank you for your service!! My brother is (in the next month) about to be a full-bird in the Marines.

Never in my life have I seen such a sissified and frightening
commercial. It’s more like a Peace Corps ad or something.

My parents said it’s the guy running the show now...


22 posted on 09/02/2011 1:35:48 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: blasater1960
"whatever reason Navy information never reported this".......

....Maybe because it's not of your damn business.  You want to know what's going on in the military....then get your sorry a$$ down to a recruiting station and sign up.  Operations Security.....lack of it by the Main Stream Media KILLS!

23 posted on 09/02/2011 1:36:55 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: blasater1960
Folks in and around the Navy who are frustrated because the Navy doesn't tell their story are sitting on a one-legged stool when we learn AEGIS is providing effective ballistic missile defense over Libya and somehow that remarkably important operational note fails to get disseminated publicly except as a footnote in a Daily Beast article.

Hello! The nave demonstrated an ABM ability with the Standard missiles years ago in a series of tests off Hawaii and California.

24 posted on 09/02/2011 1:39:52 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: cardinal4

Well, if I read the little excerpt, and infer from the title correctly, we didn’t advertise it.

That said, it also never hurts to let you enemies know that you have certain capabilities. Not all of them mind you, but from time to time, you need to let them know you’re gonna be no pushover.

Also, as was mentioned, the Navy gets to test some capabilities in a real world, fluid environment. You can only test in the lab, or scripted live fire tests for so long.

If this story is true then: NICE SHOOTING NAVY!!


25 posted on 09/02/2011 1:42:48 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Shamrock-DW
"whatever reason Navy information never reported this".......

I was in a couple of Cold War adventures they haven't reported either, although I'm not holding my breath.
26 posted on 09/02/2011 1:52:51 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Borax Queen
We are no longer even making a pretext that the military is for defense, it’s now all about the new world/one-world order. The borders are wide open, our infrastructure collapsing, but the Navy is working for the “global” good.


Het Borax Queen, the text below just came into my email inbox, Thought it would be worth posting.


By BGEN Greg Stroud (Ret)

Some of you know that I was recently "retired" as the 162 Fighter Wing Commander.

The decision was made by Brig Gen Mike Colangelo, the Arizona Air Commander, who replaced me because he "just wants to change the culture at the 162nd" -- not for cause or performance or any other reason.

This officer never commanded anything bigger than an Air Control Squadron, and somehow he wound up in charge. Heck, the guy probably got beat up in grade school every day.

I think it is indicative of what is happening in our Air Force and reinforces what Bruce MacLennan and the anonymous author have to say below.

Well, I also have something to say about our changing Air Force and it's quickly disappearing Fighter Pilot culture. How many scope-dope drone operators does it take to change a light bulb?

Two. One to change the bulb -- and one to kiss my ass.

That’s right. I said kiss my ass -- ‘Cause I’ve had it. The air superiority fighter and its PILOT are not dead and the Chinese are so far not impressed with drones.

I am tired of Fighter Pilots suffering at the hands of all the pencil pushing REMFs and ladder-climbing opportunists and shitty non-rated managers (who think they are leaders) just because the Air Force is currently more interested in feelings and sexual orientation than fighting.

Not all officers have what it takes to lead warriors, yet too many of them are in charge in our military.

At this rate we may lose the next real war.

These shit-bird officers need to be run out of leadership positions and get out of my face already.

We have too many people in our military that feel the need to play political victim and go to court instead of just dealing with it themselves. No one can have any kind of fun anymore.

Men and women can’t flirt, hug, look at anyone sideways, or drink beer out of mermaid mug because of you “victims” and your lawyers.

Are you happy?

And while I’m at it, Fighter Pilots, who are willing to die so that we can have low prices at the gas pump and shop at the mall, should be able to throw the wildest parties they can manage without one uptight biddy coming in and stopping it.

There were scads of women at The ‘91 Tailhook party who were having the time of their lives, voluntarily being just as debauched as any of the men were.

Everyone who flew a plane, or even knew someone who flew a plane, knew how wild those parties were and what went on. What does our society expect -- a prayer service? It’s worse now than it was then.

”Victims” need to just throw some punches of their own whenever guys, gals, lesbos, or homos get out of line.

Doesn’t our tax money go to teach all of our military how to fight?

I’m not trying to make the idiotic “she had it coming” argument here, which would go something like “of course they grabbed her breasts, look how big they are.”

Plus, just reaching out and grabbing some boob is wrong no matter what.

When I was at Tailhook, even at our most drunken admin parties we never acted like that.

No matter how hard I try I can’t think of an excuse good enough to do something like that. But it’s still nothing to lose a career over or get your panties in a wad.

Besides, fighter pilots are supposed to be aggressive assholes. That’s how we used to train them.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want a military of fighter pilots who are gifted at giving sensitivity seminars.

I want mad-dog, rabid killers going to battle for me and mine. Man or woman.

When our homeland is threatened by Middle-Eastern Muslim radicals, or when we want to force our form of government on some poor, unsuspecting poppy growing shit hole, or when uppity North Korean despots develop nuke weapons, I want to be able to call on men and women who like to fight and drink.

I want an officer who knows how to whack some drunk in the balls when he grabs her tits, not call a press conference and a lawyer.

If you’re a wimp who doesn’t know how to find the exit at a rowdy party, go fly a kite -- not a jet fighter.

Fighter Pilot should always be capitalized because it is a hard-earned title. So there!

Perhaps it's time for me to retire.

Greg "Mongo" Stroud


27 posted on 09/02/2011 2:14:33 PM PDT by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: MeganC

Yep, free testing under real-world conditions.


28 posted on 09/02/2011 2:26:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Traveler59

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/24/libya-rebels-advance-gaddafi-home-town


29 posted on 09/02/2011 2:32:12 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: MeganC
You're right. It would be a great operational test of the SM-3. Not only would it be a real-world test, rather than scripted/controlled, it'd be cheap. As I understand it, range time is expensive, and so are the target TBMs. If Libya is willing to provide these products and services for free... ;-)

SM-3s aren't cheap either. Not sure how many the Navy has just yet, nor how many of their Aegis CGs and DDGs have received the upgrades to fire them, nor where they are assigned... Wonder if the Navy quietly contracted with Raytheon to upgrade a few SM-2s and do some operational testing? See http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Raytheon_Standard_Missile_2_Destroys_Target_999.html

30 posted on 09/02/2011 3:30:32 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: cardinal4
I don’t get it, why advertise our capabilities?

Why does a rattle snake rattle?

31 posted on 09/02/2011 4:14:11 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: B-Cause

Thanks, B-Cause, and bttt!


32 posted on 09/02/2011 5:24:41 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks blasater1960.
...the Navy has been shooting down scud missiles over Libya from sea, and for whatever reason Navy information never reported this...
Tripoli Turkey Shoot ping. This will be good practice for the coming missile barrage in the eastern Med -- depending of course on which side Zero wants to fight on.


33 posted on 09/04/2011 5:55:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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