CERN experiment confirms cosmic ray action (The global warmists’ dam breaks)

Here is the entire study of “Cloud” experiment by CERN in Nature (10343).

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/attachments/science-technology/26144-global-warming-fact-fiction-nature10343.pdf

21 posted on 09/08/2011 5:09:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)

To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you sir, an excellent link.

Will take a little time to digest it all, but looks very good.

22 posted on 09/08/2011 5:24:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)

To: Texas Fossil

Thanks for the ping. Nature is an excellent peer-reviewed publication. The following is from the summary of the article that you provided the link for:

“However, the fraction of these freshly nucleated particles that grow to sufficient sizes to seed cloud droplets, as well as the role of organic vapours in the nucleation and growth processes, remain open questions experimentally. “

The last 4 words are the scientific equivalence of CYA. No proof yet, but a good attempt to model the system in the laboratory.

Science is an endless attempt to prove oneself wrong. Failing to do so we request our peers to prove us wrong. After considerable testing of suggested cause and effect, we begrudgingly admit that we COULD be correct in our speculation.

Ah, if only politics was that way - - - -, sigh.

23 posted on 09/08/2011 7:26:41 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obamatrauma"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.)

I am not a physicist but had several friends in NM who were excellent physicists.

I simply don't need all that analysis to interpret that the climate variances are related to Sunspot Minimums and Maximums. That has been show empirically over the past 200 years.

Cause? It is the Sun Stupid, not Man.

24 posted on 09/08/2011 7:34:24 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)

To: Texas Fossil

Thanks. I am a fossil guy too. As you probably know there are over 200 factors in the computer model Global Warming of the “Experts.”

How in the world can an idea be tested with 200 variables?
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So they press on knowing that their idea is safe from statistical “testing.” However, their idea has no know cause and effect. Hence, Science rejects the Global Warming idea as defined without any known cause and effect.

True, the Sun has an effect on the temperature of the air, as do volcanoes and lack of water vapor. Water vapor is our major Greenhouse Gas with 2.5% of air volume, and CO2 is one of the least 0.0385 %. In parts per million that is 25,000 and 385, respectively.

All living matter has CHON in them, that is Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen. All of these elements are essential to life. All in non-toxic concentrations are environmentally friendly.

The Carbon in CO2 is the primary source for carbon in the process of photosynthesis. The past has had many times when the concentration of CO2 was greater than it is now.

In Nature, cycles are common. We are in a warming cycle now ( 1 +/- degree F/100 years ). But it was warmer in The Medieval Warm than it is today, and much warmer 5,000 years ago.

Keep up the good work, and ping me when you find a cause and effect involving CO2 and air temperature.

25 posted on 09/08/2011 8:54:06 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obamatrauma"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.)

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