Skip to comments.Feds: reinstate conviction for threats to Obama
Posted on 09/16/2011 10:21:42 AM PDT by ColdOne
Federal prosecutors are asking an appeals court to reconsider a ruling that threw out a California man's criminal conviction for threatening Barack Obama while he was a candidate for the presidency in October 2008.
In July, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled, 2-1, that comments Walter Bagdasarian posted on a financial internet bulletin board did not constitute a "true threat" to Obama, even though the suspect was later found to have six firearms in his home. After Bagdasarian waived a jury trial, a federal judge convicted him of two counts of threatening to kill or injure a major presidential candidate.
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The founders are spinning so fast in their graves dirt's a flyin !
“It is not required that the speaker explicitly threaten that he himself is going to injure or kill the intended victim. Instead, the cases in this Circuit teach that even ambiguous language, or language that does not specify that the speaker himself intends to kill or injure, can nonetheless amount to a threat, depending on the full context,” the government wrote.”
Thought police. Theeeeeeeeeeeeey”re heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere...
OMG! If ONE firearm is dangerous, imagine how much more dangerous SIX would be!
If you make incendiary comments AND have a firearm in your home.
I wonder if Hoffa Jr has any firearms in his home. This standard could come back to bite them in the butt.
But not while Eric Holder is the top cop. AS long as he’s the top cop US “justice” is gonna be exactly like Mexico’s: for sale to the highest bidder (that is, the one with the most campaign cash and/or the most votes). IOW, anybody who would seriously be a threat will get a free pass from the entire law enforcement field.
So I could say, “The sky is red.” And by my visual confirmation, the sun setting in the west is orange and casting a red glow on the sky.
However, since I recently had a dream about Obama falling from AF1 in-flight, I’ve now insinuated that the red sky is his blood as he falls from AF1. And I don’t even have to be the one who pushed him, it’s simply by the fact that I had a dream about Obama falling from AF1 (sans parachute) and noted a red sky at sunset, I’m now guilty of threatening the Resident.
Shit, I’m gonna have to report myself to AttackWatch now.
From this, may I infer that there is a 'lesser' charge for those who threaten a MINOR presidential candidate?
By that argument, 75% of the members of Code Pink, 90% of the democrats in congress, Michael Moore and Keith Olbermann should ALL be behind bars for ‘threatening’ president George W. Bush.”
Yes. Yes they should. Or criminal stupidity at the very least. Moore for just being too Moore like.
Wouldn’t these also be considered threats... to civilians?
* Obama: They Bring a Knife
We Bring a Gun!
* Obama to His Followers: Get in Their Faces!
* Obama on ACORN Mobs: I dont want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! Im angry!
* Obama to His Mercenary Army: Hit Back Twice As Hard!
* Obama on the private sector: We talk to these folks so I know whose ass to kick.
* Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean hand to hand combat!
* Obama to lib supporters: Its time to Fight for it.
* Obama to Latino supporters: Punish our enemies.
* Obama to democrats: Im itching for a fight.
* Obama about Republican congressmen: They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back” It does look like Obama is derailed and is desperate. Virtually everything he does now is blowing up in his face. He is so obviously anti-American, that even Democrats are seeing it. This Socialist/Marxist Muslim and Community Agitator is going down.
This part of the government's argument is not relevent to the case because Mr. Obama is clearly NOT a 'qualified individual'.
You can win a bet on that one. But who's going to call him out? Major news media? The Feds?
I bet Agatha winds up in Fort Marcy Park. /gratuitous “Minority Report” comment.
I've got god and the spirit of the American people on my side i'm not scared of them or him concerned for our country and its future yes scared no !
If the welfare class in this country don't wake up they are going to find themselves in chains they can't get off it's great to have a voice and to use it but if their is no one to hear what you have to say it's like screaming underwater
Make Sense ?
This is what they want to focus on. Obama is the best protected POTUS ever.
Of course were still waiting for the mask to come off only to find out what some thought was a mask is the real thing !
That is hardly proof of intent of anything at all other than being an American.
Got Franz Kafka?