Skip to comments.Is Perry's HPV vaccine stance really outrageous?
Posted on 09/17/2011 7:29:48 AM PDT by Askwhy5times
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Yes, but the Dream Act more.
and bi national health insurance.
If it’s such a good idea, why couldn’t it be voluntary? And voluntary as in opt-in, not run through bureaucratic hoops and intimidation to opt out.
The question is not whether it is “such a good idea” as you said - it is whether it is outrageous.
I say it is a bad idea, but not outrageous. I think those, including MB, who over played it as evil and outrageous have hurt themselves. Not every single issue is apocalyptic or good versus evil - some are just plain bad or just plain lapses in judgement. Why can’t we grow up and just call it what it is. (and that would include Perry, who cannot bring himself to quite the admission he should).
Get caught lying once and expect that it will be remembered.
this biologist notes the vaccine is NOT safe. It has a record of having caused more harm than most other vaccines. Frankly, it shouldn’t even be on the market.
Safety and vaccines are not adequately studied for a whole bunch of reasons. I used to be agnostic about vaccines because of their demonstrated benefits with most childhood diseases. Since then, the field has really moved in a bunch of wrong directions at the expense of public safety.
We want the best cradle to grave, big Mommy state possible.
We like our mandatory seat belt laws and helmet laws, bans on smoking everywhere, even in our own homes, alcohol checkpoints, government and union pensions and health care, etc. and we have little to no problem trading personal liberty and freedom for all of it.
Give us a road paved by good intentions that someone else pays for and a strong leader who will take care of us and we'll be good and quiet.
This is now a boy/girl vaccine.
Homosexuals have a BIG interest in it.
I'd like to know how many doses have been passed out to homosexuals.
What’s outrageous is how everyone has gone into full on, hyper speed feeding frenzy over this (now old) issue whilst the dems/libs laugh their collective butts off at us.
Let’s refocus, kids!
The outrageous parts are the unlicensed practice of medicine by government officials, and the corruption regarding staff relationships to the manufacturer and contributions to campaigns.
A-ha! Is that what makes this issue hot andpardon the media parlance punsexy? Because somehow when the topic of innocent little 12 year old girls gets mixed up with protecting them from a virus that gets transmitted through sexual contact, it suddenly gets to be co-opted by politicians on the basis of protecting moral valuesand it gets them airtime.
This is exactly what it is. Folks that are all atwitter over this Gardisil thing are upset that if a young lady decides to have out-of-wedlock-sex, she is protected from this disease.
What they fail to understand is that we do not live in a theocracy, and the VAST majority of us do not WANT to.
You are over stating and over dramatizing every aspect to justify your claim as outrageous. It was not the practice of medicine by government officials since it was not mandatory - and the corruption issue is valid but the money involved seems to indicate it was nothing like the crony aspect that we’ve seen with Solyndra or GE or GM or Goldman.
You are straining gnats and therefore ignoring camels.
“My dad is an OBGYN, so we werent afraid of using correct anatomical terminology or talking about human sexuality.”
Poor abused little chillens’.
“The American Academy of Pediatrics would like to correct false statements made in the Republican presidential campaign that HPV vaccine is dangerous and can cause mental retardation. There is absolutely no scientific validity to this statement. Since the vaccine has been introduced, more than 35 million doses have been administered, and it has an excellent safety record.”
After reviewing all 12,424 reports of adverse events after HPV immunization made to the joint CDC-FDA Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting system from June 2006 through December 2008, researchers from the two agencies reported that, generally, adverse event rates were similar to what is seen in safety reviews of other vaccines. However, they did acknowledge the presence of "disproportional reporting" of syncope (8.2 per 100,000 doses) and blood clots (0.2 per 100,000), compared with that seen with administration of other vaccines.
CDC, FDA Study Reinforces Safety, Efficacy of Gardasil
Report by American Academy of Family Physicians
The science shows that in order for this vaccine to work it needs to be administered before a person becomes sexually active. According to a statement released by the American Academy of Pediatrics following the media uproar after Bachmanns comments, they recommend that girls receive [the] HPV vaccine around age 11 or 12. Thats because this is the age at which the vaccine produces the best immune response in the body, and because its important to protect girls well before the onset of sexual activity.
Well written analysis...some of the FReeper windbags need to read it... It amazes me that the dozen or so hard core Perry bashers don’t understand that most Americans and FReepers one, don’t care what they think, and two view anything that fights cancer as good.... Bachmann stepped in it with her lie...like I said before..she like my wife, and most women, can’t shut up after the man has conceded...they got to carry on. Then she goes on Leno and makes it pretty easy for most Americans to decide the girl is in way over her head...
NO, it isn’t. Especially since he gave every parent in Texas the ability, in 2003, to opt out of any vaccines they deemed dangerous to the children. That is ANY IMMUNIZATIONS they deem dangerous to their children. Every Texas parent knows this, and thanks to Rick Perry we have it for the first time in Texas History. Immunization in Texas is now TOTALLY VOLUNTARY!
Also I have a 15 year old granddaughter whose mother chose in 2003 to take the opt out, or opt in if you want to deal in semantics, who gets to choose which needles get poked into her children, again thanks to Rick Perry’s legislation in 2003, four years before Gardasil was approved by the FDA.
My second thought is of some jock scoring in the back seat of a Chevy with any skank he can slam dunk with, who might possibly bring STD’s to my granddaughter if she’s eventually fool enough to fall for the ‘If you love me, you will have sex with me...’ routine that’s been pulled by every teenage boy since time immemorial. We have certainly kept her informed that the guys are going to try to pull this krap, and the possibility of their wanting to love her for life and support any children they beget ranks at about ZERO! And to have some respect for herself...it’s not a requirement to be the recipient of every jock’s wet dreams. And that she could be saddled for life with genital warts or herpes by one of these so-called loving individuals.
As for the Texas Dream Act, WE TEXANS sponsored that bill and had it passed into law because it was the right thing to do for these children raised in Texas.
As for the bi-national medical program, since when did selling tele-medicine across that border become bi-national insurance program. We sell everything across that border, including the masa and flour Mexican nationals use to make their staple tamales and tortillas. It’s produced by Pillsbury and General Mills...are you going to start yapping that we’ve got a bi-national flour and corn meal program and want to stop $billions of dollars in trade with Mexico? FOOLS!
Understand also that because of the rising probability of autism, there is already a growing aversion to vaccines as a whole. So there are many parents out there who resist mandatory vaccination, myself being one of them. When my son was freshly born, the hospital wanted to give him a vaccination for Hepatitis B. It required a strong stand on my part to dissuade them from doing it. But in the end, I found out I still had a free choice. When the state requires that vaccines be received, that choice no longer exists.
(For the record, no vaccines applied during the first six months after birth do any good. The immune system is incapable of producing effective antibodies that early in life).
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