Skip to comments.Is Perry's HPV vaccine stance really outrageous?
Posted on 09/17/2011 7:29:48 AM PDT by Askwhy5times
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You are making excuses for behavior that by all rights should be inexcusable. Obviously you have an interest here other than trying to find out the truth of the matter that you’re not disclosing.
Yes, I completely agree with you on this point.
I like Bachmann, but she has vetted herself out of the Presidency.
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This should have gone through the legislature. He should not have issued an executive order.
Outrageous? No, not really. More like standard operating procedure for politicians. Oh boy, can't wait. Meet the new boss, same as the old.
the pubies talk about the rights of the u.s. constitution.
the communists talk about “choice”.
so, it’s wrong no matter how you look at it.
Dear Blugrass Pundit; FYI, your article takes liberties with the FAQ the CDC has put out on Gardasil.
PS: You also can’t believe what the CDC says.
PSS: Thought I’d let you know what the FDA says about your comment about age and immune system:
“Two studies were also performed to measure the immune response to the vaccine among younger females aged 9-15 years. Their immune response was similar to that found in 16-26 year olds, indicating that the vaccine should have similar effectiveness when used in the 9-15 year age group.”
I’ve not time for folks that are constantly reading agenda’s into every post that disagrees with theirs. It shows a lack of creativity and a base weakness in your own argument. And it is soooooooo boring to boot.
The EO was a bad decision. Period. MB’s attack was over the top and not in proportion. Period. Only folks whose agenda is to push MB for the nomination or to defeat Perry for the nomination would have a problem with that synopsis. Perry has been an executive for ten years. Only Romney and to some extent, Cain, have anywhere near that kind of executive record - meaning that those with executive experience are going to have more decisions in their past and thus, more mistakes in their past than those with zERO executive experience.
If we are not mature enough to look at the totality of a ten year record, then we are in deep trouble. Perry has an over all good record on parental rights and a checkered record on cronyism.
He uses state government a bit too agressively, but he has been consistent on rolling back the Fed’s power for a long time. Running for President, I am more interested in his long term view of the Fed Govt’ than necessarily his micro managing of the governorship. All are fair game, but keep our eye on the ball here folks.
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“As for the Texas Dream Act, WE TEXANS sponsored that bill and had it passed into law because it was the right thing to do for these children raised in Texas.”
We have lost California because of illegal immigration, why do things to lose Texas too? These programs just act like a magnet for more lawbreakers.
And what’s interesting is that her supporters are EXACTLY the same way. No one is really defending the EO on the vaccine. No one is saying Perry is not without problems. We all get the crony angle and the heavy hand of government angle. Almost everyone is saying that MB is someone they like and right on most issues.
And yet, like MB, her rabid supporters (or those rabid anti Perrys) won’t shut up. They will not shut up until we all admit MB should be President for life and that Perry should be executed for his EO on guardisil. Blah blah blah blah.
And one more for the road:
Although those diseaes are "behaviorally obtained," it's not necessarily true that everyone who gets them has done so through improper behavior. For example, a young woman who's a virgin marries a man who isn't, the man having acqired HPV from another woman, and that man gives the HPV to his innocent bride. The bride would have been a lot better off with the vaccination than without it.
VAERS data cannot be used to prove a causal association between the vaccine and the adverse event. The only association between the adverse event and vaccination is temporal, meaning that the adverse event occurred sometime after vaccination. Therefore, the adverse event may be coincidental or it may have been caused by vaccination, however we cannot make any conclusions that the events reported to VAERS were caused by the vaccine.35 million doses have been distributed with only 68 deaths have been reported in those who have received the vaccine (32 confirmed) and the epidemiology shows NO statistical correlation that would imply causality.
In the 32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.
Since health insurance is sold by private companies, and as conservatives, we should be in favor of private enterprise, what exactly is your problem with bi-national health insurance? I thought we were trying to allow insurance companies to sell insurance across state lines - why is this any different?
Or are you trying to falsely imply that Perry wanted the state of Texas to pay for insurance for people in Mexico? That would be very dishonest of you.
Consider the demographics in Texas. Hispanics are a majority. They have very high rates of teen prenancy and poverty. Gardasil is $360 for a series of three shots. Making it mandatory provides access that would not otherwise be available to a majority in Texas.
Perry's EO was the wrong way to address the situation, but that doesn't change the need for the vaccine in Texas. Gardasil has the potential to save Texas taxpayers money in the long run by preventing expensive cancer treatments.
You keep wanting to lay the Dream Act solely at Perry' feet, but you neglect to mention that it was passed by the Texas Legislature twice with veto-proof margins, the first time just a few months after Perry took office.
True, but an incomplete statement. Most of the women who had problems with blood clots had other risk factors, the key one being that they were on oral birth control when they got the shots. I think that was probably another factor in recommending that girls get the shot BEFORE they become sexually active.
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