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Nader's Newfound Love for Palin Based on Misconceptions
Yahoo! News / Associated Content ^ | September 19, 2011 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 09/19/2011 10:25:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ralph Nader's sudden respect for Sarah Palin can only be understood by concluding Nader has only a superficial understanding of Palin's disdain for corporations that use connections with government to get unfair advantage.

Nader just sees Palin attacking corporations and, as an anti-capitalist crusader for the past five decades, gets a warm feeling in his heart. Mind, he still hates her aggressive foreign policy stance, but he really likes her taking on those big, evil oil companies.

The problem is, as Nader will no doubt shortly discover, while his approach to anti-corporatism stems from a socialistic perspective, Palin's comes from a libertarian point of view. Nader would like to curb corporate power by clamping down more rules and regulations, and even in some cases having the government take over corporations entirely.

Palin, on the other hand, would draw a bright line between business and state. Businesses would be able to make as much money as possible, under a sensible set of regulations and a low tax system, but would not be able to game the system for special advantages or get bailouts to cover for bad decisions.

Even so, the spectacle of Nader, former presidential candidate of the Green Party, giving praise to Palin, the heroine of the tea party, is something that nearly sends one to bizarro world. Doubtless Nader is not aware of Palin's very enthusiastic views on oil drilling and other forms of resource exploitation. Otherwise he might have to alter his perspective on the lady from Wasilla just a little bit.....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: nader; palin; ralphnader; sarahpalin; teaparty
There were people here jumping on an earlier article about this trying to insinuate that Gov. Palin must be a socialist if Ralph Nader said anything positive about her.
1 posted on 09/19/2011 10:25:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Neither Nader nor Whittington are correct.

Libertarians want such little regulation that it is easy for some market participants to gain a monopolistic position from which they can game the system.

Palin's ideas are more, heaven forfend, populist. She would like to see sufficient regulation to prevent any company from gaming the system either through bribing government officials or ruling from a monopolistic roost.

2 posted on 09/19/2011 10:35:31 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish I could come with a word that isn’t “stupid” to describe these people.


3 posted on 09/19/2011 10:37:04 PM PDT by svcw (Do liberals get brain freeze if they eat ice cream to fast? (probaly not, no brains))
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
While my distrust of big government is greater, I am not a fan of big corporations either.

Too much power concentrated in any one entity is almost never a good thing.

4 posted on 09/19/2011 10:41:23 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Using the power of the state to coerce people is not part of a free market.


5 posted on 09/19/2011 10:42:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: comebacknewt
Too much power concentrated in any one entity is almost never a good thing.

Yep...power corrupts...absolute power corrupts absolutely...

6 posted on 09/19/2011 10:44:14 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: svcw

http://thesaurus.com/


7 posted on 09/19/2011 10:47:06 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: nickcarraway

In her book ‘America by Heart’ Palin said that there is a difference between free market and pro business - she said Republicans have been too much champions of Pro business policies instead of “true” free market principles....I agree


8 posted on 09/19/2011 10:47:38 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: svcw

[ I wish I could come with a word that isn’t “stupid” to describe these people. ]

Nader is for freedom..
He wants the FREEDOM for himself to force YOU to do whatever he wants you to do..
As all socialists do..

Palin is just simply for Freedom..


9 posted on 09/19/2011 10:52:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The problem is, as Nader will no doubt shortly discover, while his approach to anti-corporatism stems from a socialistic perspective, Palin's comes from a libertarian point of view.

[dramatic sting] DUM-DUM-DUUUUM!

10 posted on 09/20/2011 12:41:38 AM PDT by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Libertarians want such little regulation that it is easy for some market participants to gain a monopolistic position from which they can game the system.

That's straight out of the Marxist handbook. Monopolies can form only when government grants special rights to favored companies. Under true capitalism with no barriers to entry, competition will quickly work to deter monopolies.

11 posted on 09/20/2011 1:41:46 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: BfloGuy
That's straight out of the Marxist handbook. Monopolies can form only when government grants special rights to favored companies. Under true capitalism with no barriers to entry, competition will quickly work to deter monopolies.

Thank you BfloGuy. Every major Sherman Act case I know about fizzled after a few years because market forces changed the world.

12 posted on 09/20/2011 2:51:39 AM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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To: Bigtigermike
In her book ‘America by Heart’ Palin said that there is a difference between free market and pro business - she said Republicans have been too much champions of Pro business policies instead of “true” free market principles....I agree

Agreed. A perfect example is how many of them are willing to bend over and open their, uh, campaign contribution slots for Disney and the RIAA/MPAA every time they want to defy the founders' vision of copyright one more time.

13 posted on 09/20/2011 3:03:04 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: BfloGuy
"Monopolies can form only when government grants special rights to favored companies."

Did this happen with Microsoft? With AT&T?

If you are against the creation of monopolies then you yourself are against free markets. In a completely free market corporations should be able to do whatever they want with their profits so long as it is legal. If it is legal for them to lobby congress for special favors then the free market should allow it.

What we have is the result of libertarian social policy: large corporations maintaining their monopolies through judicious use of their profits, i.e. lobbying congress for special favors.

Isn't libertarianism wonderful!

14 posted on 09/20/2011 8:37:12 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Using the power of the state to coerce people is not part of a free market.


15 posted on 09/20/2011 9:45:43 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This isn’t a good thing for Palin...Nader is the most anti-capitalist around...


16 posted on 09/20/2011 9:47:23 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: nickcarraway
So you're telling me that there should be laws against corporations spending their profits to lobby congresscritters to pass legislation locking their monopolistic gains in place?

Didn't McCain and Feingold try to do something like that? Wasn't that deemed by all conservatives and libertarians to be unconstitutional and antithetical to business?

Hmmm. Maybe the concept of a completely free market is incoherent. Market participants in a free market are free to change the nature of the market such that it is less free over time. This seems to occur on a regular basis. Maybe reality is more complicated than the Economics 101 lecture we are given so often by well-meaning but undereducated libertarians.

17 posted on 09/20/2011 10:46:20 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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