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A Repeat of the Great Depression Is Our Best Case Scenario
SHTF Plan.com ^ | 9/20/11 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 09/20/2011 10:32:40 AM PDT by Kartographer

The mood in the room was definitely that this country is heading towards some kind of collapse, some kind of significant disaster. That everything kind of is lined up and nobody, really, in the political realm, out there in the culture seems to have solutions…

If we look long-term. If we look at the structural problems of the United States, at over $100 Trillion in unfunded liabilities, of ongoing deficits, of no political solutions, of nobody talking about real cuts, where does this all lead?

Unless we have real structural change I think it will [lead to disaster]… Unless you change the approach to government, unless you’re willing to challenge the very notion of what government needs to do, you’re not going to change it in a fundamental way.

…Unless you make a fundamental change in our approach to entitlement, in our approach to government, we can buy time, but we’re not going to change the outcome.

Unless there’s alternatives, unless people come up with real solutions, the crisis could be anywhere from a major economic depression and we learn our lesson and we climb out of it, to what happened to Rome, which really is the dark ages…

…I think we have to remember that…civilizations in human history have declined, they’ve disappeared…Sometimes in human history mankind has gone through long periods of time of just struggling, of it being very hard to survive.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: beprepared; bhoeconomy; depression; getreadyhereitcomes; greatdepression; nobama2012; obama; obamadepression; preparenow; prepperping; shtf; survivalping; tshtf
Seeing how this was at the Atlas Shrugged Revolution dinner I have to wonder how they kept their food down.

Hemlock for all bartender and put a cherry and one of those little umbrellas in them.

1 posted on 09/20/2011 10:32:41 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: driftdiver; blam; mamelukesabre; cc2k

And I posted this because? ;-)


2 posted on 09/20/2011 10:37:28 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Ping


3 posted on 09/20/2011 10:38:28 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Now on one hand this is a level above the current perspective of the Government actions, but on the other hand, a level above that is that they are crashing the economy to replace freedom with slavery, and this level above is the logical second step in that process.

We could just go back to freedom... but that would be so... retro. We could go for real change and try a New World Order!

The Obama Administration is the tail of the dog. The real crapshoot is if they can sell us a “New Fix” that will bring their world domination dreams to fruition.

That is the problem with Atlas Shrugged. The book sells the solution that is really a poison pill. If Atlas really shrugs, they win! There is no invisible valley to hide in till it all blows over these days.

In the old testament, it tells a story of the people wanting a king. God said you have Me, why do you want a king? But the people insisted. So God gave them their wishes.

In God we trust once was the motto of the land. But now, we serve man.

I am so retro, I liked it before the “up grade”. I really believe freedom is worth the cost.

4 posted on 09/20/2011 10:49:21 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Kartographer
Why didn't you use the full article? Much more informative.

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5 posted on 09/20/2011 10:54:18 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Better safe than sorry. I get in enough trouble with the Mods the way it is!


6 posted on 09/20/2011 10:55:23 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

It’s not just Yoran Brooks and alternative media that is warning of this possibility, but well respected and influential economists and business figures like Nouriel Roubini, who just today in an opinion piece for Reuters writes, “the risks ahead are not just of a mild double-dip recession, but of a severe contraction that could turn into Great Depression II,” and George Soros who recently wrote that more centralization is the “only way to forestall a possible financial meltdown and another Great Depression.”


Central Planning will solve everything...........


7 posted on 09/20/2011 11:01:12 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Kartographer
"And I posted this because? ;-) "

Do't get me started. (ahem)

8 posted on 09/20/2011 11:12:22 AM PDT by blam
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To: Alas Babylon!; Kartographer
Why didn't you use the full article? Much more informative.

Why didn't you just click the stupid link? Much easier than whining.

9 posted on 09/20/2011 11:44:34 AM PDT by Dick Tater
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To: Kartographer; blam

It’s going to be MUCH worse if the economy gets to depression era levels...

think about the skills people had then,
and the “skills” they have now.

Back then, everyone had a garden, could and would do manual labor, and had some practical skills to do that labor.

Today, the closest thing a huge segment of our society has to a “skill” is the ability to use violence to get what someone else has.


10 posted on 09/20/2011 11:46:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Dick Tater

Well I see your name certainly fits. ;-)

Why didn’t I just click....

Because not all web sites are allowed through corporate firewalls. This one (the SHTFPlan) is blocked on mine....

I actually have my laptop with me so at lunch I hooked it up and was able to get to the site...

Then I let the OP know it was ok, according to the web site’s author, to post it in its entirety, hence my reply above to him.

Then some Dick started ragging on me....


11 posted on 09/20/2011 12:41:08 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kartographer

I think a “dark ages” prediction is a little bit over the top. We have fiat currency. They can always declare the currency dead and start over with new currency...the amero for instance.

There’s not going to be any dark ages. It may take a couple three new currencies before the people get a clue and throw the bums out of DC. There might be a semi dark year or two or ten...or 20. Ok maybe 50. There’s not going to be a dark ages that last several centuries where all higher education and technology ceases to exist.

We are too far past the point of no return. The planet cannot support even 1/10th the current population level in a dark ages like existence. Either this mess gets figured out or we have armageddon.


12 posted on 09/20/2011 12:48:32 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
"There might be a semi dark year or two or ten...or 20. Ok maybe 50."

I agree your scenario is more like, but even then we will see things during such a time that make the depression of our grand parents and parents almost nostalgic. People just aren't as equipped today to deal with such as they were then and as you yourself pointed out there are a lot more of us now then there was then.
13 posted on 09/20/2011 1:27:21 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: mamelukesabre

“There’s not going to be a dark ages that last several centuries”

unless something unrelated like an EMP or solar CME.
(I guess it might be related at that =/


14 posted on 09/20/2011 1:31:41 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yea, I like to show my Dick to the idiots and whiny bitches that cant click a link or wait for their lunch break - and there are plenty. I command you to change your nick to one of those (lemme try it on ya for size) you idiot. After all, I’m the Dick right? Yep, it fits ;)


15 posted on 09/20/2011 4:20:38 PM PDT by Dick Tater
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To: Dick Tater

Command? Har! Get a freaking grip, ok? The original poster explained himself, and now you’re acting like a fool.

It really isn’t that important. But remember, you asked me why, so I told you. Case closed, Dick.


16 posted on 09/20/2011 6:21:05 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: mamelukesabre
We are too far past the point of no return. The planet cannot support even 1/10th the current population level in a dark ages like existence. Either this mess gets figured out or we have armageddon.

Yes, yes and yes. And I don't see our "leaders" figuring it out.

IOW, it's time to fuel up your escape pod.

17 posted on 09/20/2011 6:37:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mamelukesabre
...They can always declare the currency dead and start over with new currency...the amero for instance.

Well, for starters, such a move would undoubtedly precipitate WWIII.

18 posted on 09/21/2011 3:45:00 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Kartographer

No.


19 posted on 09/21/2011 5:46:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I sure am, Sucker. lol.


20 posted on 09/21/2011 5:49:11 AM PDT by Dick Tater
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To: The Duke

I don’t see why


21 posted on 09/21/2011 7:58:30 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: MrB
think about the skills people had then, and the “skills” they have now.

There's the zinger. Most under 50 wouldn't have a clue much past trying to figure out how to get a can of corn opened without electricity. Hate to say it but some over 50 would be scratching their heads as well.

22 posted on 09/21/2011 9:54:50 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: mamelukesabre
I don’t see why

Wouldn't *you* be upset if you were sitting on trillions of someone else's currency that they were busy devaluing?

23 posted on 09/21/2011 9:54:53 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke

yes, but I couldn’t do anything about it unless I had a military comparable to that which is owned by the ones who are busy devaluing their currency.


24 posted on 09/21/2011 1:37:54 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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