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Observations on the End of DADT
Luke "Non-white TEA Partiers are like Concentration Camp Kapos" Visconti's DiversityInc ^ | 20 Sep | Visconti. hisself

Posted on 09/22/2011 7:00:14 AM PDT by flowerplough

I was stationed on Guam in the mid-1980s. My squadron flew search and rescue while on the island and made regular deployments to sea. Aside from my duties as a naval aviator, I was also a division officer and had enlisted men and women reporting to me. Guam is only 13 degrees north of the equator—beach weather every day. Most military people used the military beaches; I was one of the folks who liked to travel around the island.

That’s how I discovered one of my men was gay. He was on the beach with his boyfriend, and although there was nothing going on that couldn’t be in a G-rated movie, there was no doubt that they meant more to each other than two buddies enjoying a day in the sun. When he looked my way, he froze, and I saw a flicker of fear on his face. These were the days before “don’t ask, don’t tell” (DADT), so his legal problems would have been criminal, not administrative.

I did what needed to be done: I walked over, said hello to my sailor and introduced myself to his boyfriend. We chatted about the nice weather and I bid them a good day and left the beach so they could relax. We never discussed it again.

Fast forward to 2008. I was driving home on a Friday afternoon, looking forward to a summer weekend, when my cell phone rang. It was a 202 area-code number (Washington, D.C.) and since I’m a member of the Chief of Naval Operations Executive Panel (CEP), I thought it might be important, so I answered it. It turned out to be an acquaintance, retired Rear Admiral Jamie Barnett. He asked me, “When are you going to talk to Admiral [Mike] Mullen about ending ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’?”

I responded, “Great idea. How am I going to get an appointment with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs?” and he gave me an insight: Admiral Mullen had appointed me to be on the CEP—he’d take my call.


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Rear Admirals are deep in the, by far, most gay-receptive of the military services.

May 11, 2011; (With Much Regret, and with Despairing Sneers cast at the Interfering Congressmen) Navy Halts Move to Allow Gay Marriages by Chaplains After Complaints From Lawmakers

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/11/navy-halts-allow-gay-unions-chaplains-complaints-lawmakers/#ixzz1YgnuqxE0

1 posted on 09/22/2011 7:00:18 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough

The sun is shining brighter, the flowers smell better, food is tastier, Bob’s sex organ feels better in Maurice’s anal canal.......yadayadayada.


2 posted on 09/22/2011 7:06:34 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: flowerplough
Rear Admirals are deep in the, by far, most gay-receptive of the military services. <<<

ok..I'll bite!....lol.....Why do u think they are called “Rear” Admirals???

3 posted on 09/22/2011 7:08:30 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: flowerplough

Having an extensive background in the NAV and knowing some of the “players” who backed this, I have been sick to my stomach over this repeal...
the dynamics of military service will be changed forever and NOT for the good of the country, IMO.
The PC “leaders” of our military who went along with this should always be reminded of their culpability...
Time will tell if I’m right - if I’m not, so be it...


4 posted on 09/22/2011 7:10:39 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: flowerplough
I don't care what homosexuals do as long as it is private, however, we are sacrificing our fighting ability on the altar of political correctness.

I guess we can crag out "In the Navy" by "The Village people and finally use it as a recruitment song. B-P

Maybe I'm wrong here but the way things are going, if I had a kid who wanted to join the military, I would discourage him/her from doing so. I'd rather see him/her in one of the unorganized militias like the Ohio Militia and so on.
5 posted on 09/22/2011 7:11:20 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: flowerplough

in the 80’s?

he had a duty to report that. The story is a fake.


6 posted on 09/22/2011 7:14:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: flowerplough
Let the lawsuits begin.

The next time some Drill Sergeant (or whatever the Naval equivalent is) questions some recruits manhood during boot camp (or womanhood as the case may be), he (or she) is going to get slapped with a hate crime charge.

Anchors aweigh.

7 posted on 09/22/2011 7:14:55 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: matginzac

This is not about gays serving, never has been. There were more than just a couple gays in while I served. Everyone knew it. It was in the background. DADT repeal is not about tolerance, it is about forced acceptance. And now that the DOD “endorses” homosexuality the gays will move forward in their assault on normalcy, gay marriage and forced acceptance by the church.


8 posted on 09/22/2011 7:19:10 AM PDT by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands.")
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To: flowerplough
I'm all for gays serving openly in the U.S. military.

In fact, I think we should show the enemy how tolerant and accepting we are by posting all-gay checkpoints about a mile in front of all heterosexual checkpoints.

And just to make sure the enemy is able to identify the checkpoints as being manned by homosexuals, they should fly the rainbow flag and the troops should all be dressed as Corporal Klinger.

Take that, terrorists! HA!

9 posted on 09/22/2011 7:19:17 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: MPJackal

Totally agree!
And the church “acceptance” will be forced by making Catholic chaplins either go against the teachings of the Church or get out of the chaplin corps...
and ADM Mullen is a “Catholic”.


10 posted on 09/22/2011 7:23:53 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: flowerplough

We are done as a republic. It’s over.


11 posted on 09/22/2011 7:23:53 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MPJackal
gay marriage and forced acceptance by the church.

What will happen if two gays or lesbos get married while in the service and later try to get a divorce in a state that does not recognize gay marriage?

12 posted on 09/22/2011 7:28:42 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

as of right now, they can only divorce in a state that allows homosexual based marriage. A supermajority of states have constitutional and statutory prohibitions.

It is much like no state is required to recognize civili unions that pretend to be marriage.


13 posted on 09/22/2011 7:35:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: central_va

I STRONGLY suspect this story is 100% fake.


14 posted on 09/22/2011 7:36:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: flowerplough

It will be interesting to see which Service has the best cornhole team when play begins at all military installation soon.

To help you keep score, here are the rules:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornhole


15 posted on 09/22/2011 7:48:56 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: matginzac

If Mullen were a Moromon —would he be a Jack Mormon —but what to they call a Catholic who acts in his Official capacity as anything other than a Catholic in good standing?


16 posted on 09/22/2011 7:55:43 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Texas Eagle
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Only two things come from Texas... Steers & Tea Partiers! Which one are you sweatheart!

17 posted on 09/22/2011 8:03:41 AM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: longtermmemmory

I remember a gay couple - lesbos I think - tried to get a divorce in Texas about a year ago. IIRC, they were told to go back to Mass. to get divorced.


18 posted on 09/22/2011 8:11:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: longtermmemmory; flowerplough; Jim Robinson

flowerplough has a history of pushing the vile homo agenda on FR. He has been warned by Jim Robinson to stop. He tries to continue under the radar.


19 posted on 09/22/2011 8:40:09 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Attributed to Sun Tzu

LJ, my caustic, frail, myopic, online stalker...
Homos and lesbians exist, and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, and are generally the political enemies of conservatives. Many conservatives find the enemies’ information occasionally useful. (And many of Joan Jett’s songs from the Reagan years make me smile when I hear them on the radio, if my tagline’s also bothering you.) Please forward this to Robinson, if you feel the need; I refuse to bother him with you and your insignifica.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 9:15:34 AM PDT by flowerplough (My favorite lesbian in the whole world is Joan Jett.)
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To: flowerplough

I do not stalk you.

I check latest posts and articles. I would like to not see your screen name, I do not search it out.

When you post crap and then don’t comment that it’s crap, simple logic says that you think it’s not crap.

Anyone can check anyone’s posting history and make up their own minds.


21 posted on 09/22/2011 9:35:10 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: StonyBurk

A cafeteria Catholic or a CINO...
One of so many we see in the public these days...
wish the Church would do a purging!


22 posted on 09/22/2011 12:01:59 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: flowerplough

Yet there are already 3 times as many homosexual rapes in the US military as there are heterosexual rapes.

Let’s see what happens when all the homosexuals start getting promoted over everyone else and start forcing themselves on their subordinates.


23 posted on 09/22/2011 12:19:50 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Supposedly this was posted as a "know thine enemy" article but the original poster, flowerplough, has never posted a condemnation of homosexuals in the military that I've ever read. Longtermmemmory doesn't think this is a true story; because the officer in question would have also been breaking the law. Looks and smells to me like pure propaganda.

24 posted on 09/22/2011 5:25:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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Who lost BIG TIME?

The MILITARY... the cancer has attacked it and succeded...

I have been predicting this for ever!!!!!!!!!!... Queers wanted to destroy it for ever... because MEN threaten these sickos... their job will be now to destroy slowly, like a cancer...

But it's only fair to point out that people of "courage" failed to prevent it as well.

Notice, who keeps SILENT amid all these events...

25 posted on 09/22/2011 5:56:06 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: flowerplough
what utter crap. i served and joined in 86, in a combat unit and served years and I can tell you from then to today I know of not one vet or one marine or combat soldier who wants to share bunks, share showers, share room, share jobs or share sleeping bags during survival training. Now if this crap is on FOX then it does not surprise me as the like of Megyn kelly and the rest of the pro homo crowd minus probably Eric Bolling , steve Doocy. shove their pro cross dressing pro homo, crap out all the time. BTW I talked to a pal who has served over 20 years and is based in Kabul for the last nearly a year, H e has served everywhere there has been a war and now he is leaving and now going to a private security unit to Libya My sons are now not joining either and I will be th elast in generations to have served and see what the pro cross dressing pro homo crowd has done They are taking good marines , good special forces etc away now. so my message to these perverts who need mental help. FU I will not rest until we get back to sanity and I will not stop trying to get us back to hwo it was
26 posted on 09/22/2011 6:17:23 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I will answer that

They now will say they can risk their life but cannot get married in my state of FL.

See where this crap is going? Overturning DOMA next which tells us that our votes are useless.


27 posted on 09/22/2011 6:19:02 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: central_va

well I can think of one thing and that is maybe states which want to be normal leave the north east to their own ways and the west coast


28 posted on 09/22/2011 6:20:05 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: longtermmemmory
Just because it was in the 80’s and he had a duty to report it doesn't mean the story is fake. It just means (at best) that he failed in that duty due to personal beliefs.
29 posted on 09/22/2011 6:20:34 PM PDT by texanred
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To: central_va

“We are done as a republic. It’s over.”

My family has relatives that fought in every war this nation ever waged. I had relatives at King’s Mountain, New Orleans, and Shiloh Church (CSA).

We expected our young men, if they were fit, to join at least for a while. That’s gone forever. I’ll be steering my son away from the armed forced.

The liberals wanted the military? Well, they got it. They can go bleed in some foreign hellhole for what they believe, or maybe they can pay somebody else to do it for them. I don’t care, but they needn’t ask me or mine.


30 posted on 09/22/2011 6:41:32 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: manc

My daughter’s a twice-deployed iraq vet, and I was in Reagan’s army, the one the commies feared. Didn’t know of any homos in my Signal units, but there were a few dykes, many of ‘em better soldiers than the pretty little teasers that purred around HHC. Daughter sez she knows plenty o’ dykes, too, and a homo or two, and had ho problem with ‘em. She fears for the homos’ safety, though, on an individual basis, anf feels that Obama and his lickspittles in the Perfumed Prince section of the Pentagon have pushed things too fast.


31 posted on 09/22/2011 6:43:53 PM PDT by flowerplough (My favorite lesbian in the whole world is Joan Jett.)
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To: Hawk1976

same here.
my family has served for generations like it was a right of passage but my sons now are not joining unless this gets overturned.

Sad part is that my oldest is in ROTC and so far 5o of them have now said they are not going to join unless it gets overturned.

The queers want this then go off and die but don’t expect to come to my state and say you’re married or even ask for a divorce here.


32 posted on 09/22/2011 6:44:21 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: flowerplough

ho problem??

“no problem”


33 posted on 09/22/2011 6:46:43 PM PDT by flowerplough (My favorite lesbian in the whole world is Joan Jett.)
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To: flowerplough

not seen you on here so out of curiosity

do you think homosexuals should marry?
do you think homosexuals should serve openly?

should homosexuals have access to children?

just wondering and thank you in advance


34 posted on 09/22/2011 6:51:07 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: flowerplough

They shouldn’t have pushed things at all.

Then again, there aim is not having fags and dykes in the military. The military was just an important frontier that they had to crack. The end goal is forced acceptance of society and easy access to children. That end goal never changes.

In a few years, the entire officer corps will be militantly pro-gay. They won’t just say they don’t care whether a particular homosexual, they will declare, more loudly than the last, that their best troops are homosexual.

Why? One simple reason, the officer corps is full of careerists that won’t hesitate to put their knife into the back of their fellow officer. They will receive a negative mark on their evals if they are not “sufficiently acceptive” of homosexual troops.

That means the military brass will shortly embroil itself in such issues as states not recognizing marriages of homosexual troops, not allowing homosexuals to adopt or foster children, and in the Boy Scouts units on base or using installations facilities not allowing homosexual troop leaders.

You seem to be willing to degrade the US military and focus it on the wrong things in pursuit of allowing gays to serve, consequences be damned. You can choose to ignore reality. You will not be able to choose the consequences of ignoring reality.


35 posted on 09/22/2011 7:02:45 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: Hawk1976

This is going to have to be undone. If the next President doesn’t overturn all the crap that Zero signed, then we’re over. We’re not over yet.


36 posted on 09/22/2011 7:13:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: flowerplough; Jim Robinson

So according to flowerplough’s daughter, the female homos were better soldiers than (I presume) the normal women. And the only problems are that the homos might be unsafe, and that this has been pushed “too fast”. So flowerplough thinks that if the public had been given more time to “soften up” and become homo-indoctrinated, homos in the military would be fine.


37 posted on 09/22/2011 7:16:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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Oops, it was flowerplough who thought the females homos were better, my mistake.


38 posted on 09/22/2011 7:18:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: manc; flowerplough

Flowerplough has been warned before about promoting the homo-agenda, by JR. Here FP is doing it again, attempting to be sort of stealthy about it. He accused me up the thread of “stalking” him. Because I happened to run into this thread.

Pushing homosexuals in the military is something I will never tolerate on FR. Never. And FP is doing it right on this thread. Nauseating.


39 posted on 09/22/2011 7:21:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: manc; Eagles6; flowerplough

Eagles6 posted this on another thread, a great article by By Cliff Kincaid called “Saving Soldiers from Gay Death”. Anyone pushing homos in the military is basically condemning people to death.

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.27.10.html

The US military tests individual service members every 2 years for hiv.

Recruiters have been told to aggressively recruit homosexuals.

There are presently 19,000 hiv positive service members.

A person can have hiv for up to 90 days and not test positive on some or all tests. There is much conflict on the accuracy and standardazation of tests. So potentially a medic could have hiv for 2 yrs.3 months and easily pass it on to hundreds of personnel if in a combat situation.

In a mass casualty situation where blood is taken from any and everyone and used immediately or buddy transfusions occur the potential for transmitting hiv is astronomical.

More at the link.


40 posted on 09/22/2011 7:25:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks. See post #36.


41 posted on 09/22/2011 7:29:40 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: flowerplough

Push your homo crap elsewhere. Bye.


42 posted on 09/22/2011 7:34:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: little jeremiah

I am curious. Does the USMJ still prohibit sodomy?

Serious question.


43 posted on 09/22/2011 7:37:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you so much.


44 posted on 09/22/2011 7:40:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Seems to me I read recently that they hadn’t. But also remember a comment from someone (dang if I can’t remember) that a bunch of regulations have just gotten changed. Are you on the HA pinglist? Because if I find out I’ll ping the list, and if you find out, could you let me know?


45 posted on 09/22/2011 7:41:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: manc

Check comment 42, fp is gone.


46 posted on 09/22/2011 7:43:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: flowerplough

Well - bye...

47 posted on 09/22/2011 7:47:07 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: little jeremiah

I am not aware of any changes. I am embararassed to say that. I am active duty and as a supervisor, I should be up on it.

But, I do think it is still a punishable offense.

I will research it when I go back to to work. I am on R&R from a 6 month deployment.


48 posted on 09/22/2011 7:48:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: darkwing104; 50mm; TheOldLady

A troll gone. Personally zotted by JR.


49 posted on 09/22/2011 7:50:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Anything you find out, let me know.

And thank you for your service.


50 posted on 09/22/2011 7:51:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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