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Is Gold No Longer A Safe Haven? Nope. "Gold Will Surge When Euro Crisis Escalates"
Zero Hedge ^ | 09/23/2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 09/23/2011 7:39:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

With gold dropping $200 in the past several weeks on ongoing much anticipated liquidations to cover margin calls, there are those who have wondered if the precious metals have lost their safe haven luster? Well, no. All they have lost is some value against the dollar even as all other global currencies have fallen faster than even gold as was pointed out yesterday by Mike Krieger. In other words all that is happening is a relative devaluation of the DM currencies relative to the one absolute, and to the dollar as well. However, as the Swiss National Bank so aptly demonstrated, all it takes for a central bank to intervene drastically is for its currency to appreciate beyond reasonable parameters. Which is what is happening to the dollar, not due to some intrinsic value in the currency, because it is just a matter of months if not weeks before Bernanke is forced to print all over again. The only reason the USD is soaring is due to to a multi-trillion dollar funding shortage around the world but mostly in Europe, which the Fed hopes to satisfy with a massive expansion in FX swap lines which become activated on October 12 but not before. Either way, some of the more timid elements may be explainably rushing for cover to paraphrase Norville Barnes. Which is why we present the following report from Capital Economics which explains why "Gold still deserves "safe haven" status."

From Capital Economics

Gold still deserves “safe haven” status

• The recent sharp falls in the dollar price of gold have led some to question its status as a refuge from problems elsewhere, especially now that the US currency is strengthening across the board. However, if (or when) there is a further escalation in the crisis in the euro-zone, gold prices are still likely to surge against the dollar too.

• The price of an ounce of gold has now fallen by more than $200 from the record nominal highs above $1,900 seen earlier in the month. Since Tuesday alone, gold is down more than $100. As the price of traditionally riskier assets such as equities and industrial commodities have also fallen sharply over this period, it is tempting to conclude that gold has become another casualty of the “risk-off” trade.

• Despite this, we continue to expect gold to rise above $2,000 this year and to at least $2,500 no later than 2013. The fundamentals that support gold’s status as a safe haven have not of course changed in the last few days. Above all, its value does not depend on the creditworthiness of any government or financial institution, and that may yet prove very significant in the weeks and months ahead.

• What’s more, with gold prices now at previously unprecedented levels, the absolute size of daily moves are likely to be larger – both up and down. Despite the recent falls, the gold price is still nearly $100 higher than at the start of August.

• Finally, the recent fall in the dollar price of gold primarily reflects a return of a degree of confidence in the US currency, which may not be sustained. The price in euro terms, for example, has held up a little better, which is what matters more for European investors seeking protection from the crisis in the euro-zone. (See Chart 1.) Other things being equal, a stronger dollar does imply a lower gold price when measured in dollars. This is partly because of the simple pricing effect which applies to any commodity, whereby purchasers in other currencies can afford to pay a higher price in dollars when the dollar is weak. But gold is also seen as a close substitute for the dollar as a store of value, so if there are doubts about the prospects for the US currency, gold tends to benefit disproportionately.

• The reverse appears to have happened recently. Crucially, the markets have moved on from the dispute over the US debt ceiling and the loss of the AAA rating (with S&P). The Fed’s reluctance to adopt further quantitative easing has also allowed the dollar to regain some of its own safe haven status.

• Nonetheless, in the event of a disorderly Greek default, and particularly if fears of a break-up of the euro-zone really take hold, gold is still likely to benefit more than any other currency even if the dollar proves to be the best of the rest. In part this is because the upside for gold is not constrained by broader economic and policy  considerations, whereas the value of the dollar (and of other national currencies such as the yen and sterling) clearly is. Confidence in the dollar is also likely to be undermined again by the fall-out from fresh euro-zone shocks on the US economy and banks. Indeed, since the global crisis began there have been several periods when the dollar has generally been strengthening and yet the price of gold in dollar terms has risen further, such as the second quarter of 2010 when concerns about Greece took off. (See Chart 2.) Although gold prices are now much higher, there is no good reason to rule out a repeat out-performance if the crisis in the euro-zone takes an even more sinister turn.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: eu; eurocrisis; gold; safehaven

1 posted on 09/23/2011 7:39:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Read very little of the article... but why let that stop me?

Gold CAN continue to fall as Europe goes into crisis... why? Because those seeking safe havens from Europe are buying in dollars. A stronger dollar means cheaper gold. No one knows if it WILL... but it sure CAN.


2 posted on 09/23/2011 7:44:53 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We are in the eye of the storm. And the storm is increasing in power almost exponentially. If you are not prepared by the time the eye passes over, well...


3 posted on 09/23/2011 7:48:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I used to laugh at people that said this, but I will say it now: Silver and Gold are really good “safe havens” here, but the most important one is lead. That is doubly true if you live in an area where this lead can help you feed your family.


4 posted on 09/23/2011 7:50:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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5 posted on 09/23/2011 7:59:19 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: cuban leaf

Ladies & gentlemen: buying T-bills up and changing
them from short due-date to long due-date as the Fed is doing does not create wealth.

It is simply paper shuffling.

It is an illusion of wealth creation. It creates no
wealth.

The rising USD in relation to gold copper and the
global indices is an illusion...simply a response to a
(short-term) sleight-of-hand. Thursday’s indices tanking is a vote of no- confidence in Bernanke. Fleeing gold is nuts. Fleeing stocks of companies that really produce things that people value and cannot do without, the companies that actually create wealth, and to move that money into Bernanke Dollars, is approximately like trading a gold ring or the deed to an acre of land for a wooden deck chair on the Titanic that looks like it might float as the ship upends and breaks up.

Gold is profoundly undervalued and so are the shares of dozens of the USA’s and the globe’s best and most profoundly Wealth-Creating companies
This is very important. You’re seeing dividends tied,
for the first time, to Real Wealth, to Commodities, not to paper.

As gold has become the New 21st Century Money, so
also will silver, not far down the road, this decade.

By late in this TwentyTeens decade you’ll see great companies tying their Q dividend payment to the price of gold & silver.

Allow all this to play out. But stay away from those T-bills... it is only a short term play.


6 posted on 09/23/2011 8:08:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: cuban leaf
We are in the eye of the storm.

Falling gold and silver prices may be the indication we've fallen off the economic cliff predicted. It may also be an opportunity to acquire financial insurance at a discounted price while the dollar is king for a time.

7 posted on 09/23/2011 8:15:01 AM PDT by Errant
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To: SeekAndFind
Ladies & gentlemen: buying T-bills up and changing them from short due-date to long due-date as the Fed is doing does not create wealth.

IMO, it's what the FED didn't do, which was to immediately implement QE3, is one of the reasons for a strengthening dollar - that and Euro panic.

8 posted on 09/23/2011 8:21:13 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

—It may also be an opportunity to acquire financial insurance at a discounted price while the dollar is king for a time.—

That is exactly how I am seeing it.


9 posted on 09/23/2011 8:28:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

What I didn’t want to say, is that it may be the last opportunity...


10 posted on 09/23/2011 8:33:19 AM PDT by Errant
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To: SeekAndFind

is approximately like trading a gold ring or the deed to an acre of land for a wooden deck chair on the Titanic that looks like it might float as the ship upends and breaks up
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uh...if wooden deck chairs were scarce, that would be a very wise trade in my opinion.


11 posted on 09/23/2011 8:40:22 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: SeekAndFind
A GOLD BAR HAS NEVER BEEN WORTHLESS!!!!!

The July 1st closing price for Gold was 1486.6. Why do people get their pampers damp when we are trading at 1674.0.

Funny stocks fall 20% and it is a buying opportunity, Gold falls 20% and the Luster is Gone!

I know why it has been so easy to fleece the American public.

12 posted on 09/23/2011 8:44:16 AM PDT by Why So Serious (There is no cure for stupidity!!!)
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To: Errant

—What I didn’t want to say, is that it may be the last opportunity...—

That was what I was implying with my “eye of the storm” analogy. Storms are cyclopses.


13 posted on 09/23/2011 8:47:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Why So Serious

“I was thinking about buying gold a couple months ago, and I’m glad I didn’t!”

“What? Gold’s still higher than it was a few months ago?!”

“D’oh!”


14 posted on 09/23/2011 9:07:18 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: cuban leaf
“Eye of the storm” isn't a bad analogy but doesn't take into account the increasing severity of the problems facing economies worldwide. In other words, this storm is going to be a category 5+ by the time the back wall slams us.
15 posted on 09/23/2011 9:18:40 AM PDT by Errant
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To: cuban leaf
That is doubly true if you live in an area where this lead can help you feed your family.

I for one want to know just what you mean by that. You're either a frakkin murderer and thief in waiting or you somehow believe you're immune to lead poisoning. Which is it cuban?

16 posted on 09/23/2011 10:14:37 AM PDT by Dick Tater
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To: Dick Tater

You forgot option 3: Bring home food that you shoot. In our case, it is deer, turkey and, if things get bad, coon and squirrel. ‘Course, we raise our own beef and will soon be doing the same with chicken.


17 posted on 09/23/2011 10:20:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

I do indeed stand corrected. Excellent usage of said lead.


18 posted on 09/23/2011 10:26:34 AM PDT by Dick Tater
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